Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

Mar 19, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: New York Daily News

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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<quoted text> you are sick
Not sick, but confused. They create their own version of what happened ignoring the obvious evidence. They can't look at this with an open mind and question themselves about their theories. Instead, make the story up in your mind and don't allow others to debate you. Then when Zim is set free, they will be aghast at the outcome.

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Not sick, but confused.
Were you confused when you asserted that the pedophile zimmerman only followed Martin for ten seconds?

FUnny how I've asked you fifty times and you can't come up with an answer.

Pinocchio, you are a m/f c/s liar.
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Wow...Tough room full of name calling and bickering from all sides. Since the witnesses seem to be backing what Zimmerman said and you have to admit it took 5 minutes for every civil rights "opportunist" to come down here to Florida, whip up both sides and post pictures of Trayvon when he was 2 for sympathy...I'm not buying either side right now. Maybe we might want to actually see the facts before we start calling people racist or condemning either side? I worry when I see things like this because it just proves all the race baiting of the past several years is working and I thought this group was beyond all of that...sigh
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Were you confused when you asserted that the pedophile zimmerman only followed Martin for ten seconds?
FUnny how I've asked you fifty times and you can't come up with an answer.
Pinocchio, you are a m/f c/s liar.
Look everybody! It's my little puppy dog BareFool. BareFool is a full bred Troll Terrier. He follows me around wherever I go. He can't seem to help himself. I ignore him as much as possible, but that doesn't seem to work. He still follows my every post.

Bad doggie! Go away boy. Go back under your bridge where you belong and leave people alone.

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Wow...Tough room full of name calling and bickering from all sides. Since the witnesses seem to be backing what Zimmerman said
That's funny: the only witness that "backs" what the pedophile said happen is the pedophile himself who has already been caught lying to court that is going to try him.

Up next: the pedophile's ugly fat lying wife.

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xxxrayted wrote:
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Look everybody! It's my little puppy dog BareFool. BareFool is a full bred Troll Terrier. He follows me around wherever I go. He can't seem to help himself. I ignore him as much as possible, but that doesn't seem to work. He still follows my every post.
Bad doggie! Go away boy. Go back under your bridge where you belong and leave people alone.
The evidence appears to be in Mr. Zimmerman's favor. Subtract the political angles and emotional conjecture from this case and it appears to be a clear case of self-defense, albeit a tragic one.

Despite media assertions to the contrary, the Florida Legislature clearly enacted Fla.Stat. 776.012, 776.013, 776.032 and 776.041 for very good reasons. This case appears to fall squarely into those statutory protections. I'm handling a similar case right now, and the Legislators' intent was to avoid such drawn-out torture for people who righteously defend themselves.

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Wow...Tough room full of name calling and bickering from all sides. Since the witnesses seem to be backing what Zimmerman said and you have to admit it took 5 minutes for every civil rights "opportunist" to come down here to Florida, whip up both sides and post pictures of Trayvon when he was 2 for sympathy...I'm not buying either side right now. Maybe we might want to actually see the facts before we start calling people racist or condemning either side? I worry when I see things like this because it just proves all the race baiting of the past several years is working and I thought this group was beyond all of that...sigh
The evidence appears to be in Mr. Zimmerman's favor. Subtract the political angles and emotional conjecture from this case and it appears to be a clear case of self-defense, albeit a tragic one.

Despite media assertions to the contrary, the Florida Legislature clearly enacted Fla.Stat. 776.012, 776.013, 776.032 and 776.041 for very good reasons. This case appears to fall squarely into those statutory protections. I'm handling a similar case right now, and the Legislators' intent was to avoid such drawn-out torture for people who righteously defend themselves.

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The evidence appears to be in Mr. Zimmerman's favor. Subtract the political angles and emotional conjecture from this case and it appears to be a clear case of self-defense, albeit a tragic one.
Despite media assertions to the contrary, the Florida Legislature clearly enacted Fla.Stat. 776.012, 776.013, 776.032 and 776.041 for very good reasons. This case appears to fall squarely into those statutory protections. I'm handling a similar case right now, and the Legislators' intent was to avoid such drawn-out torture for people who righteously defend themselves.
I replied to the wrong post. I've no desire to engage in your private war(s).

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The evidence appears to be in Mr. Zimmerman's favor. Subtract the political angles and emotional conjecture from this case and it appears to be a clear case of self-defense, albeit a tragic one.
Despite media assertions to the contrary, the Florida Legislature clearly enacted Fla.Stat. 776.012, 776.013, 776.032 and 776.041 for very good reasons. This case appears to fall squarely into those statutory protections. I'm handling a similar case right now, and the Legislators' intent was to avoid such drawn-out torture for people who righteously defend themselves.
I agree completely....many keep speaking to Stand Your Ground, but i find this case, almost the definition of Self Defense......I'm also surprised this charade of the judicial system, has gone on this far.....political and social implications, notwitstanding.....

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I replied to the wrong post. I've no desire to engage in your private war(s).
Then what is your point? That you think Zimmerman was not a contributor to the outcome of the event and free from fault?

The case is going to a jury where it begs to be decided. Had George been arrested that evening, he would have lawyered up and we wouldn't be here opinionating about matters of race, the second amendment or the cost of peanut butter in Cleveland Ohio.

You were a cop and now you're a criminal lawyer...good for you. You then know that a certain federal agent interfered with the 'initial' investigation correct? You know that he was friends with the chief of police, acquainted with SA-18 and also a good friend to the defendant. Best friend supposedly and the one who taught George how to handle a shoot a weapon. And you know that no one in LE had a clue as to the identity or age of the deceased until hours after George was sent along no harm no foul.

Does any of that seem proper to you? It didn't seem proper to Pam Bondi did it?

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<quoted text>Then what is your point? That you think Zimmerman was not a contributor to the outcome of the event and free from fault?
The case is going to a jury where it begs to be decided. Had George been arrested that evening, he would have lawyered up and we wouldn't be here opinionating about matters of race, the second amendment or the cost of peanut butter in Cleveland Ohio.
You were a cop and now you're a criminal lawyer...good for you. You then know that a certain federal agent interfered with the 'initial' investigation correct? You know that he was friends with the chief of police, acquainted with SA-18 and also a good friend to the defendant. Best friend supposedly and the one who taught George how to handle a shoot a weapon. And you know that no one in LE had a clue as to the identity or age of the deceased until hours after George was sent along no harm no foul.
Does any of that seem proper to you? It didn't seem proper to Pam Bondi did it?
You are doing nothing more than speculating. First, Zimmerman was arrested. I won't cite case law, but any significant deprivation of liberty--here, handcuffed and taken to the SPD--is an arrest, and the detective completed an arrest affidavit. Second, there is no evidence anyone interfered with the investigation. The detective called the SAO, was told he could not arrest Zimmerman due to the applicable FL statutes, and instead, filed an affidavit.

Having conducted homicide investigations, I see nothing wrong with the way this one was handled. Nothing at all. The SPD doesn't have a crystal ball, and Martin didn't have any ID. No one in the neighborhood recognized him, and there was no means of identifying him. Frankly, I'm unsure what you are insinuating beyond a general conspiracy theory, and I don't buy into those fantasies. It's like connecting me to Kevin Bacon: It can be done, but only through great leaps of "logic" and very tenuous associations.

I've seen many self defense cases, and this is one of the strongest. Zimmerman, in my opinion, is nothing more than a political cats-paw. There is very credible physical and medical evidence supporting his narrative, and none to support the State's case. It's naught but political football that should not be in our courts beyond a Stand Your Ground hearing, which a judge, not a jury, decides.

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You are doing nothing more than speculating. First, Zimmerman was arrested. I won't cite case law, but any significant deprivation of liberty--here, handcuffed and taken to the SPD--is an arrest, and the detective completed an arrest affidavit. Second, there is no evidence anyone interfered with the investigation. The detective called the SAO, was told he could not arrest Zimmerman due to the applicable FL statutes, and instead, filed an affidavit.
Having conducted homicide investigations, I see nothing wrong with the way this one was handled. Nothing at all. The SPD doesn't have a crystal ball, and Martin didn't have any ID. No one in the neighborhood recognized him, and there was no means of identifying him. Frankly, I'm unsure what you are insinuating beyond a general conspiracy theory, and I don't buy into those fantasies. It's like connecting me to Kevin Bacon: It can be done, but only through great leaps of "logic" and very tenuous associations.
I've seen many self defense cases, and this is one of the strongest. Zimmerman, in my opinion, is nothing more than a political cats-paw. There is very credible physical and medical evidence supporting his narrative, and none to support the State's case. It's naught but political football that should not be in our courts beyond a Stand Your Ground hearing, which a judge, not a jury, decides.
I hope that no one really thinks your for real........

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You are doing nothing more than speculating. First, Zimmerman was arrested. I won't cite case law, but any significant deprivation of liberty--here, handcuffed and taken to the SPD--is an arrest, and the detective completed an arrest affidavit. Second, there is no evidence anyone interfered with the investigation. The detective called the SAO, was told he could not arrest Zimmerman due to the applicable FL statutes, and instead, filed an affidavit.
Having conducted homicide investigations, I see nothing wrong with the way this one was handled. Nothing at all. The SPD doesn't have a crystal ball, and Martin didn't have any ID. No one in the neighborhood recognized him, and there was no means of identifying him. Frankly, I'm unsure what you are insinuating beyond a general conspiracy theory, and I don't buy into those fantasies. It's like connecting me to Kevin Bacon: It can be done, but only through great leaps of "logic" and very tenuous associations.
I've seen many self defense cases, and this is one of the strongest. Zimmerman, in my opinion, is nothing more than a political cats-paw. There is very credible physical and medical evidence supporting his narrative, and none to support the State's case. It's naught but political football that should not be in our courts beyond a Stand Your Ground hearing, which a judge, not a jury, decides.
Then why don't they want a SYG hearing?

Why does O'Mara think it will be a tough case to win?

The medical evidence disputes his claim, it doesn't support it.

Are they paying you to defend Zimmerman on public blogs?

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Wow...Tough room full of name calling and bickering from all sides. Since the witnesses seem to be backing what Zimmerman said and you have to admit it took 5 minutes for every civil rights "opportunist" to come down here to Florida, whip up both sides and post pictures of Trayvon when he was 2 for sympathy...I'm not buying either side right now. Maybe we might want to actually see the facts before we start calling people racist or condemning either side? I worry when I see things like this because it just proves all the race baiting of the past several years is working and I thought this group was beyond all of that...sigh
When people applaud the death of a child just because he is black, as these people on here do, they are bigoted racist haters.

Regardless of the facts of the case, rejoicing in the death of a child is evil.

Lying about a dead child is evil.

Hating a child because he is black is evil.

I've never seen a picture of Trayvon when he was two. Making up that lie tells me you have certainly made up your mind while chiding others for doing so.

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BTW, the witness are not backing what Zimmerman said, not in any of his different versions of what happened. When police were writing those reports they were telling the witnesses what they saw, not asking them. That's why the witnesses stories changed so drastically.

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This is so old news. You know as well as I do the chance of him being found guilty is slim to none and it looks like slim is leaving town. I blame the father of the young man who died. The sad part is when he is found not guilty people will be lining up to buy his story because of the way it was published. Shame on you for that. The father should have taken a more active roll in not teaching hate in this young man. SO IT IS THE FATHERS FAULT and he can live with that. I feel bad for both of their mothers.

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You are doing nothing more than speculating. First, Zimmerman was arrested. I won't cite case law, but any significant deprivation of liberty--here, handcuffed and taken to the SPD--is an arrest, and the detective completed an arrest affidavit. Second, there is no evidence anyone interfered with the investigation. The detective called the SAO, was told he could not arrest Zimmerman due to the applicable FL statutes, and instead, filed an affidavit.
Having conducted homicide investigations, I see nothing wrong with the way this one was handled. Nothing at all. The SPD doesn't have a crystal ball, and Martin didn't have any ID. No one in the neighborhood recognized him, and there was no means of identifying him. Frankly, I'm unsure what you are insinuating beyond a general conspiracy theory, and I don't buy into those fantasies. It's like connecting me to Kevin Bacon: It can be done, but only through great leaps of "logic" and very tenuous associations.
I've seen many self defense cases, and this is one of the strongest. Zimmerman, in my opinion, is nothing more than a political cats-paw. There is very credible physical and medical evidence supporting his narrative, and none to support the State's case. It's naught but political football that should not be in our courts beyond a Stand Your Ground hearing, which a judge, not a jury, decides.
Did I speculate seeing Mark Osterman and his wife on the Doctor Phil Show. Did I speculate reading his tell all book or seeing his adds on such sites as the Conservative Nuthouse.

Did I not see George's pals Joe Oliver and Frank Taaffe on CNN, Frank slamming the teen known as DeeDee before most had a clue who she was?

Did I speculate George's brother being laughed at by Piers Morgan or the attorney duo of Sonner and Uhrig announcing that George had absconded causing the NBP to enlist help in finding him?

You should be posting under an anonymous proxy__like me.
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When people applaud the death of a child just because he is black, as these people on here do, they are bigoted racist haters.
Regardless of the facts of the case, rejoicing in the death of a child is evil.
Lying about a dead child is evil.
Hating a child because he is black is evil.
What I find evil is lying; lying such as people are happy because the dead minor is black. That's evil.

If there is any celebration here because of Martin, it's because he was evil. It is he who attacked and viciously beat a person simply to get even. It's because so many times, people like Martin get away with their evil, that the idea an attacker got what he asked for is a reason to celebrate.

It's not just Martin mind you. I celebrate every time I read a story of a criminal getting caught or gunned down by police or civilians. It matters now what color they were. In glee, I post those stories to my FaceBook page.
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Then why don't they want a SYG hearing?
Why does O'Mara think it will be a tough case to win?
The medical evidence disputes his claim, it doesn't support it.
Are they paying you to defend Zimmerman on public blogs?
What medical evidence disputes Zimmerman's claim?

O'Mara figures he will sit on the SYG hearing. If things look bleak in court, he can always request a SYG hearing in the middle of the trial. If things are looking Zimmerman's way, then of course they won't request one. It's good defensive strategy if you ask me.

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Then why don't they want a SYG hearing?
Why does O'Mara think it will be a tough case to win?
The medical evidence disputes his claim, it doesn't support it.
Are they paying you to defend Zimmerman on public blogs?
I've no idea why Mr. O'Mara decided to forgo the SYG hearing. I'd have done it, but politically, I don't think a judge would grant it: This case has far too much momentum, and it will go through to trial. I also respectfully disagree with you about the medical evidence. It is incontrovertible and supported by many credible sources.

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