Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid

There are 20 comments on the New York Daily News story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Call for arrest of watch captain who shot kid. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

ORLANDO, Fla. -- College students around Florida rallied Monday to demand the arrest of a white neighborhood watch captain who shot an unarmed black teen last month, though authorities may be hamstrung by a state law that allows people to defend themselves with deadly force.

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“always”

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Ticklaw

#23738 Mar 11, 2013
Sallyomally wrote:
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Do you ever read any of the docs when they come out? Seriously, you don't know anything about this case. I'm callin you the liar. Serino was not overruled he was pressured into that affidavit of probable cause by the black officers. Why do you think he hired Baez, he signed his name to that sworn affidavit.
This is an article from the Miami Herald....maybe you can find someone to help you read it. Or go find the 300 pages of Docs. that were released.
Detective in Zimmerman case said he was pressured to file charges
The lead Sanford Police investigator who sought manslaughter charges against George Zimmerman told the FBI that a sergeant and two other officers tried to pressure him into making an arrest in the controversial case — even though he didn’t think there was enough evidence.
Sanford Police Officer Chris Serino first made headlines when evidence released in the case showed he sought manslaughter charges against Zimmerman even while his chief publicly said there was no probable cause to arrest him. But a document released late Thursday casts doubt on Serino’s prior sworn affidavit seeking criminal charges, and raises questions about the credibility of the star law-enforcement witness in the murder case against Zimmerman for the shooting death of a black teenager, Miami Gardens high school junior Trayvon Martin..
Telling the FBI that he was concerned that people inside the police department were leaking information, Serino cited Sgt. Arthur Barnes, officers Rebecca Villalona and Trekelle Perkins “as all pressuring him to file charges against Zimmerman after the incident,” an FBI report said.“Serino did not believe he had enough evidence at the time to file charges.”
In his FBI interview, Serino accused Sgt. Barnes of being “friendly” with Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father. He said Tracy Martin at first understood why no charges were filed, but later changed coursse and accused Zimmerman of racial profiling
Records released Thursday show that Sgt. Barnes, a 25-year veteran of the department, told the FBI that he believed the black community would be “in an uproar” if Zimmerman was not charged.
Serino’s statement was among nearly 300 pages of documents released Thursday by the Duval County state attorney, including reports from FBI agents who launched a civil rights investigation to determine whether racial bias was involved in Trayvon’s Feb. 26 killing.
The summary of Serino’s statement does not mention the race of the officers who allegedly pressured him, but sources told The Miami Herald that Barnes and Perkins are black, and Villalona is married to an African-American man. All three, the source said, had been called in by their supervisor and questioned about leaking information in the case.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/12/2892510...
Just a quick refresher Sally. Serino was in the process of charging and booking George on day #1, officer Ayala was filling out the charging document when someone caused a change in direction. That unfinished charging document was made public, certainly you've seen it.

The situation you continue to reference-misrepresent occurred over a month later. The jury is going to wonder who interfered with George's arrest on the 26th or 27th of February and why they interfered. I've already posted that I think that George's release with no background check or request for a blood sample came by way of a favor to a mutual friend.

We'll learn in time.

“always”

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Ticklaw

#23739 Mar 11, 2013
Oh and one more time Sally, the Miami Herald is not a source although it's sources are. Funny how you beat on Robles when she posts an article that favors Martin and then link her pieces that favor George.

She's not a witness.

Speaking of witnesses, which one do you suppose had the felony charge that was plead down?

“always”

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Ticklaw

#23743 Mar 11, 2013
zazz wrote:
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It will be interesting to see what happens. I just can't imagine Zimmerthugman on the stand. Which one of his stories will he tell? Will he be able to hold his story together under cross examination?
So, if you are right then they will probably go ahead with the SYG hearing. If he's going to testify, they have nothing to lose by having it. IMO.
Someone has to tell George's story, the jury will expect that.

Perhaps the whole thing was just a horrible mistake...but it was George's mistake not Trayvon's. Trayvon was just doing whatever, mosying along and by George's own words he passed on two opportunities to speak to the teen, one at the clubhouse and another when Trayvon passed by his truck the second time.

Based on what I've learned to date there was no legit reason for
George's call to Sanford PD dispatch, it was only 7 PM and just moments past dark.

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#23749 Mar 11, 2013
Sallyomally wrote:
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George was sworn in, dumb azz. If he was never sworn in how can anyone say he committed perjury about the $$$$$. You can't have it both ways.
Attorney Mark O’Mara said Zimmerman wanted to make a brief statement, and after he was sworn in, Zimmerman was led to the witness box in shackles.
I'll wait.
Yes, he made a statement to Trayvon's parents, even though they had refused to speak to him. In his statement he contradicted what he had said on tape. He was not under oath.

You just can't keep up can you? Zimmerthugman is not charged with perjury, his wife is. You're slow so I'll be patient with you.

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#23750 Mar 11, 2013
Sallyomally wrote:
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Do you ever read any of the docs when they come out? Seriously, you don't know anything about this case. I'm callin you the liar. Serino was not overruled he was pressured into that affidavit of probable cause by the black officers. Why do you think he hired Baez, he signed his name to that sworn affidavit.
This is an article from the Miami Herald....maybe you can find someone to help you read it. Or go find the 300 pages of Docs. that were released.
Detective in Zimmerman case said he was pressured to file charges
The lead Sanford Police investigator who sought manslaughter charges against George Zimmerman told the FBI that a sergeant and two other officers tried to pressure him into making an arrest in the controversial case — even though he didn’t think there was enough evidence.
Sanford Police Officer Chris Serino first made headlines when evidence released in the case showed he sought manslaughter charges against Zimmerman even while his chief publicly said there was no probable cause to arrest him. But a document released late Thursday casts doubt on Serino’s prior sworn affidavit seeking criminal charges, and raises questions about the credibility of the star law-enforcement witness in the murder case against Zimmerman for the shooting death of a black teenager, Miami Gardens high school junior Trayvon Martin..
Telling the FBI that he was concerned that people inside the police department were leaking information, Serino cited Sgt. Arthur Barnes, officers Rebecca Villalona and Trekelle Perkins “as all pressuring him to file charges against Zimmerman after the incident,” an FBI report said.“Serino did not believe he had enough evidence at the time to file charges.”
In his FBI interview, Serino accused Sgt. Barnes of being “friendly” with Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father. He said Tracy Martin at first understood why no charges were filed, but later changed coursse and accused Zimmerman of racial profiling
Records released Thursday show that Sgt. Barnes, a 25-year veteran of the department, told the FBI that he believed the black community would be “in an uproar” if Zimmerman was not charged.
Serino’s statement was among nearly 300 pages of documents released Thursday by the Duval County state attorney, including reports from FBI agents who launched a civil rights investigation to determine whether racial bias was involved in Trayvon’s Feb. 26 killing.
The summary of Serino’s statement does not mention the race of the officers who allegedly pressured him, but sources told The Miami Herald that Barnes and Perkins are black, and Villalona is married to an African-American man. All three, the source said, had been called in by their supervisor and questioned about leaking information in the case.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/12/2892510...
You don't have a clue. You are so wrong about Serino. He wanted to arrest Zimmerthugman that night. Too bad you have a reading comprehension problem.

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#23751 Mar 11, 2013
tired of silly wrote:
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Buying them with your welfare check, degenerate. Get a job, you pathetic ghetto piece of PPP. The only pedophile involved here is you, you disgusting weenie wacking deviant.
You have no ethics and no morals. You have a lot of hate.

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#23752 Mar 11, 2013
tired of silly wrote:
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Oh look, the dead kid junkie is back. Have you found ThugTray's grave so you can go sniff for the smell of decomp? He's likely nothing but a pile of goo and brains now......exactly what he deserves to be. Go back to the sicko "We're obsessed with Caylee Anthony because we're F-in NUTCASES" threads where you belong. Oh, and I don't hate you. I fear you, you're NUTS.
You have no ethics and no morals. You have a lot of hate.

“always”

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Ticklaw

#23755 Mar 11, 2013
Sallyomally wrote:
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George was sworn in, dumb azz. If he was never sworn in how can anyone say he committed perjury about the $$$$$. You can't have it both ways.
Attorney Mark O’Mara said Zimmerman wanted to make a brief statement, and after he was sworn in, Zimmerman was led to the witness box in shackles.
I'll wait.
George was never sworn in, O'Mara pulled a quickie with the my client would like to make a statement BS. BDLR was livid but had to sit there and steam. Shellie was sworn and while it was in a remote place there was an officer of the court present...you could hear Shellie being sworn. George and Shellie conspired via the numerous calls from the jail and Shellie then denied those conversations from the remote location, both were recorded via audio equipment owned and operated by LE. For his part George sat there and allowed his wife to lie to the court about well over $100,000 of bank transfers.

Kenny Lester was pizzed beyond anything and could have been much more harsh in his describing of the Zimmerman's disrespect for the courts. Recall that GZ remains on $1,000,000 bond which is unheard of for a M 2 charge.

What's with your need to lie Sally?

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#23758 Mar 11, 2013
Sallyomally wrote:
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When did it all begin? Was it the Casey acquittal or something earlier on that drove you to the edge? Oh my, what are you going to do when George is acquitted, why not start acclimating yourself to the idea now. The reality is going to blow you away when it happens. Are you going to be on here for 5 years like you are on the Casey threads? Is that how you cope, just posting away year... after year....
after year....
after year....
and no one caring. I need a moment...shiff, sniff.
You are indeed certifiable insane.

There are meds for your condition. They won't cure you but will help you cope.

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#23759 Mar 11, 2013
tired of silly wrote:
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Buying them with your welfare check, degenerate. Get a job, you pathetic ghetto piece of PPP. The only pedophile involved here is you, you disgusting weenie wacking deviant.
Disagreeing with you does not mean one is on welfare, does not mean one lives in a ghetto. You are evil incarnate.

I get you and silly Sally mixed up, you are both looney. But I hope you are not really a medical professional. Well if you are in the medical field, you are not professional.

You have no ethics, no morals. You are filled with hate.

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#23760 Mar 11, 2013
Sallyomally wrote:
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Are you telling me Crump lied??????????
“George Zimmerman raised his right hand in court and swore to tell the truth. He swore to be honest,” attorney Benjamin Crump told CNN.
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story...
Here you go you arrogant ass! This video isn't the liar , YOU ARE! and your partner AZZ.
Watch the video. Zimmerthugman was never sworn in.

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#23761 Mar 11, 2013
RuffnReddy wrote:
<quoted text>George was never sworn in, O'Mara pulled a quickie with the my client would like to make a statement BS. BDLR was livid but had to sit there and steam. Shellie was sworn and while it was in a remote place there was an officer of the court present...you could hear Shellie being sworn. George and Shellie conspired via the numerous calls from the jail and Shellie then denied those conversations from the remote location, both were recorded via audio equipment owned and operated by LE. For his part George sat there and allowed his wife to lie to the court about well over $100,000 of bank transfers.
Kenny Lester was pizzed beyond anything and could have been much more harsh in his describing of the Zimmerman's disrespect for the courts. Recall that GZ remains on $1,000,000 bond which is unheard of for a M 2 charge.
What's with your need to lie Sally?
She's senile. She can't possibly be as dumb as she appears. The only other explanation, senility.

“always”

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Ticklaw

#23763 Mar 12, 2013
Sallyomally wrote:
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Are you telling me Crump lied??????????
“George Zimmerman raised his right hand in court and swore to tell the truth. He swore to be honest,” attorney Benjamin Crump told CNN.
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story...
Here you go you arrogant ass! This video isn't the liar , YOU ARE! and your partner AZZ.
Perhaps he did but there was no opportunity for a cross examination of George by the state at the April 20 bond hearing as you suggested. De La Rionda did cross examine Shellie regarding the family finances and as we learned later she was lying her az off which is why she was charged with perjury and arrested. De La Rionda also dared O'Mara to request a SYG hearing so that he could cross examine George under oath.

The video you link doesn't load but I'll assume that for once you're being truthful.

George remains on $1,000,000 bond with tight travel restrictions, the court doesn't trust him.

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#23764 Mar 12, 2013
zazz wrote:
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Do you really think O'Mara will put Zimmerman on the stand?
I don't think he will for several reasons. Z has already told so many lies O'Mara is afraid his testimony will contradict his other statements. He can't suborn perjury, another problem.
He also doesn't want him cross examined. Remember, at one of his earlier hearings O'Mara wanted Zimmerman to be allowed to testify without being crossed. A laughable request that was turned down.
I think this is also the reason he won't go through with a SYG hearing.
No way in hell.

The pedophile has already established himself as a liar- to the court, during his bail hearing, putting aside his four versions he has given so far of this killing.

And the pedophile has a temper- as we have all seen.

The pedophile zimmerman on the stand: Christmas present.

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#23765 Mar 12, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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No way in hell.
The pedophile has already established himself as a liar- to the court, during his bail hearing, putting aside his four versions he has given so far of this killing.
And the pedophile has a temper- as we have all seen.
The pedophile zimmerman on the stand: Christmas present.
I agree.
Oasis

Pinetops, NC

#23766 Mar 13, 2013
zazz wrote:
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You don't have a clue. You are so wrong about Serino. He wanted to arrest Zimmerthugman that night. Too bad you have a reading comprehension problem.
Sh*t, all any of us have are clues.
Serino is pretty wishy-washy, huh?
He was smart to get a lawyer.

Who, really, in the SPD should feel like they are gettin' "f-ed up the azz"? I don't remember who said it nor who it was said to. But, why would anyone within the SPD feel that way?

Someone should figure that sh*t out.

Too much work? IDK
Oasis

Pinetops, NC

#23767 Mar 13, 2013
Speaking of Serino(?)...

Why would he ask W18(teacher)if the 911 operator(coincidentally also GZ's NEN operator)told her/said anything about what had happened?

I think it was in her written statement. The one where he(whoever)Q&Aed the crap out of her.

Strange question?
No you are

Astoria, NY

#23771 Mar 14, 2013
tired of silly wrote:
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but I don't hate !
Your entire being is filled with hate. It radiates from you. Seek help.

“always”

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Ticklaw

#23772 Mar 14, 2013
zazz wrote:
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It's been a while so I don't remember exactly where but it is in the docs that he wanted to charge him that night.
I think he was smart to get an attorney but think he selected a poor one.
The first paperwork generated was the incident report with witness information (redacted) and narratives by the two initial responding SPD officers, T Smith and R Ayala.

The partial report which showed a charge of Negligent Homicide was was timed at 2:28 AM on the 27th of February 2012 yet only made it's way to the media an entire month later on Mar 26. By March 27th it had been picked up by the news outlets.

To put that in perspective, Ben Crump's original press conference was on March 16th and George was arrested on April 11th.

A reasonable person can only conclude that SPD was stalling-stonewalling.
tired of silly

Longwood, FL

#23773 Mar 14, 2013
No you are wrote:
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Your entire being is filled with hate. It radiates from you. Seek help.
You wouldn't know me if you fell over me, you stupid clown. I don't need help. Losers like you and that sicko Spazz or whatever her name is, you need help. You need a brain. You need a job. I'm doing just fine thanks, and would be even better if there were fewer lowlife scum like you and ThugTray in the world. At least little demonchild ThugTray is gone..........DEAD.........ROT TED. YAY ZIMMERMAN!

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