Judge Arthur Cooperman's verdict

Judge Arthur Cooperman's verdict

There are 166 comments on the Newsday story from Apr 25, 2008, titled Judge Arthur Cooperman's verdict. In it, Newsday reports that:

"Before dealing with the business at hand, I would like to remind everyone how important it is to honor the decorum of the court and remain quiet after the verdicts are rendered.

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real talk

United States

#1 Apr 25, 2008
OMG!!! I really can't believe this !!!
Jojo

Fort Myers, FL

#2 Apr 25, 2008
Cops were doing their job and thats the end of it!
Justice Prevails

Fremont, CA

#3 Apr 25, 2008
Sorry, Al Sharpton, you clown, justice prevailed just like it did with the Duke lacrosse players. Please, "Reverend" Al, tell all of us how unfair the decision is and show yourself to be the true hypocrite that you are. Justice prevailed. I applaud Justice Cooperman for sorting through the People's nonsense and realizing that the People did not establish their case beyond a reasonable doubt.
Jeff H

Hamden, CT

#4 Apr 25, 2008
Good!
Daniel Shays

Newington, CT

#5 Apr 25, 2008
real talk wrote:
OMG!!! I really can't believe this !!!
Why not?
Incredible

Farmingdale, NY

#10 Apr 25, 2008
It is incredible that a man's previous criminal record is taken into consideration as to whether or not he deserves justice.

My hear is saddened by the injustice of the judge--to think that these men can brutally kill another and not be found guilty.

In any other murder case, even if a man or woman didn't mean to kill, he or she would be charged with murder, period.

Only in the case of police officers and reckless conduct do we see that intent is relevant in whether a man is prosecuted.

Obviously the judge is a mind reader and based on his readings of the minds of these officers on November 25, 2006, he has determined that they did not mean to kill a young man and seriously injure another.

What would Martin Luther King do?
Michael

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Apr 25, 2008
No riots, as we residents already know that a cop can have a mistaken belief, act upon it, and cost a man his life, with absolutely no consequences.

Even if the cops feared the car, which none of them testified that they did, only Bell was driving, so how are Guzman and Benefield's injuried justifiable?

Oh well, SOP for the NYPD....shoot first, never question why, and consider it a happy coincidence that the only people shot while unarmed happen to have dark skin.
civics 101

United States

#17 Apr 25, 2008
And you wonder why Reverend Wright says the thing he does.
civics 101

United States

#18 Apr 25, 2008
The skin color of the cops is of no consequence if this were a white man and black cops there would be a conviction. The police Acadenmy trains black officers to veiw all black men under 50 as suspects, and as such fire first ask questions later now go attack obama about his preacher.

Tim allen used to sell Heroion does that mean he should be shot dead in the street. Bill clinton parrdoned a heroin dealer from a thirty year sentence does he deserve to die of course not.
LVa

Satellite Beach, FL

#20 Apr 25, 2008
Todd Schuster wrote:
Hail to the judge! This was a no brainer. Sean's punk buddies Benefield & Guzman had no credibility whatsoever on the stand. All had criminal records up the ass & were habitual fabricators. Let them go back to their life of crime & have them butn down their hood where the hoods are. To Isnora, Cooper & Michael hat's off to you. Of course there's still the civll trial & hearings where you might lose your jobs but least you won't serve jail time. Kudos Judge Cooperman on the verdict. fat Al can go back to that little shithole where he belongs, & while it is sad that the bells lost their son, had he behaved & not act like a hooligan with a hooker & prostitute & causing trouble this wouldn't have happened. he made his bed now he's lying in it FOREVER!!! Rot in hell Sean Bell as well as Guzman & Benefield.
Grab this racist punk and strip him naked and throw hinm to the sharks. 50 shots uon an unarmed man. Cowards of the first degree. So is the writer here. To hell with you racist piece of s...!
Jake

United States

#21 Apr 25, 2008
Unfortunately the young men's own cultural heritage that is dealt out in violent film, violent music to be tough, "pop a cap", ignor authority, and walk on the wild side, set the stage for their undoing. Most bachelor parties get a little wild, but most are not conducted in establishments where guns, drugs, and prostitution are rampant. When you go to such establshments you are putting yourself in danger on your on accord. Smarting-off to anyone that you are going for a gun is never good practice, you never know who may react violently to such a situation out of their own desire for self preservation. Bell was not innocent in that he allowed himself to be in the atmosphere of his coosing which presented certain risks. The cops were there trying to eliminate those risks. But when some says "get my gun" and "crack and meth eyed thugs abound", then the cops are going to reach for theirs. I do not know why such a large number of bullets flew, except for it is not uncommon when motors are gunning, it is dark, and you hear a lot of cracking to crack back a lot out of fear. Did they hear the cops identify themselves? That is "He Said, She Said". It sreally hard to identify Lies rather they are from Cops or Robbers. If some one the other side have past criminal histories and tetimony is all over the place then the weight of the lies go to there corner. Watch out where you hang your hat. If you hang with the roughys and frequent places of violent men (guns and drugs have always equaled violence - white, black, or asian), then you odds go up you will die a violent death. Cops are not angels, but they do go into harms way and they do not want to die from a thugs bullet. Maybe Sean Bell was a nice guy. He has a nic face. But he was hanging with the wrong crowd that night in the wrong place.
LVa

Satellite Beach, FL

#22 Apr 25, 2008
riOT IN THE RICH NEIGHBORHOODS! bUT DO IT WHEN THEY DON'T EXPECT IT. wHERE IS GIULIANI?
Todd Schuster

New York, NY

#23 Apr 25, 2008
You're damn right Hartford. just becuase he was unarmed, trying to run over an officer/detective with his car is just as lethal as a gun or a knife. A 3500# piece of equipment. That's as much a weapon like a gun or knife. So yes, sean Bell was scum, no choirboy. that's what it is. If you don;t like it, too bad. That's my opinion. case closed. Cooperman got it right.
Todd Schuster

New York, NY

#24 Apr 25, 2008
racist my ass L va. two of the detectives were black. this is not a race issue scum. take it & shove it.
Jake

United States

#25 Apr 25, 2008
sad

“What type of f--kery is this??”

Since: Dec 07

South Shore/Chatham

#26 Apr 25, 2008
Here we go again wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes... people who riot and destroy their own neighborhoods are animals. Sorry that this opinion upsets you.
When people act like human beings, they will be viewed as such.
Well, your above comment keeps you out of the realm of human beings buddy...

Only an animal would say what you said...
Please

Hartford, CT

#27 Apr 25, 2008
civics 101 wrote:
The police Acadenmy trains black officers to veiw all black men under 50 as suspects,
Does the academy train officers to view Asians under 50 as suspects?

I wonder why?
Pat

Wappingers Falls, NY

#28 Apr 25, 2008
Incredible wrote:
It is incredible that a man's previous criminal record is taken into consideration as to whether or not he deserves justice.
My hear is saddened by the injustice of the judge--to think that these men can brutally kill another and not be found guilty.
In any other murder case, even if a man or woman didn't mean to kill, he or she would be charged with murder, period.
Only in the case of police officers and reckless conduct do we see that intent is relevant in whether a man is prosecuted.
Obviously the judge is a mind reader and based on his readings of the minds of these officers on November 25, 2006, he has determined that they did not mean to kill a young man and seriously injure another.
What would Martin Luther King do?
You are wrong on so many levels here.#1. The judge's decision states one of the factors he considered in determining the credibility of the prosecution's witnesses was their prior criminal history (this is common in all cases).#2. Intent to murder is always a requirement for a murder charge unless it is reckless murder (which would be a manslaughter charge).
When you think about what is the burden of proof - remember all the people in the black community that screamed OJ was innocent until proven guilty and the prosecutor has to make its case beyond a reasonable doubt. Remember those same standards apply in all cases. One of the most difficult things in life is to apply the same standards to all situations when our perception is changed by a personal involvement. Here, no matter how you slice it, the judge was correct. The prosecution failed to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. The most damning thing for the prosecution was the actions of Sean Bell. Sadly, Sean Bell probably drove erratically because he feared for his life. Ironically, the cops shot at him because they feared for their lives because he drove so erratically. Tragic.
Howell

West Hartford, CT

#29 Apr 25, 2008
Daniel Shays wrote:
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Why not?
Because 50 bullets with no returned gun fire in an open street is at least reckless endangerment.
sean bell is dead biotch

Orlando, FL

#30 Apr 25, 2008
i dont feel bad for the dead kid or his family,look at how his supporters/friends dressed going to court-just like the thugs they are-and al sharpton has no place protesting this,he should be backing up the decision of the black officers involved in wanting to keep theyre community clean-instead he tries to get public media attention once more by going against the local authorities-what a joke he is-long live the nypd

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