Leader of Orlando-area motorcycle clu...

Leader of Orlando-area motorcycle club assaulted on Veterans Day

There are 761 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Nov 18, 2007, titled Leader of Orlando-area motorcycle club assaulted on Veterans Day. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Joe Rodak, local boss of the Warrior Brotherhood Veterans Motorcycle Club, rolled up to the group's clubhouse after a 100-mile ride across Central Florida on Nov.

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Confused by the hypocracy

Newport News, VA

#327 Nov 27, 2007
Lemme get this straight... I am a Vet, with a Silver/V device. If I wanted to start my own club here in Orlando, I would have to get permission from some other clowns? Am I reading this right?

VNV MC/Legacy Vets claim to be the dominant Vets MC... and appoint themselves the authority to decide what patches a club can wear in a lot of areas. 1%er clubs claim to "ride free" but then also decide who can be an MC. From what I can gather, there's some sort of fear that a group that does not "uphold the traditions of a True MC" may bring some sort of discredit to the MC world from the rest of the community.(Exactly what does that mean, are you eliminating those that bathe regularly and are not willing to commit felonies?) Yeah, right. The actions of the VNVMC, as applauded by those "in the know" about the MC world, really do you justice. I have SO much respect for you biker types now.

Ok, I can at least see the genuine nature of the 1%ers. They have decided, albeit without right to do so, to replace the law of the land with their own "code". Like the rest of the world cares. I'm almost tempted to start a club just to see if they would really do anything. Um... lessee... the "Generally Carrying a Concealed Weapon MC" oughtta do it. 1%er, meet .45 caliber.

Hey clueless ones (VNVMC, Legacy Vets (called aptly their 'bitch club' by another club's website) MC), get this: Veterans served under an oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies foriegn and domestic. So you claim the right now to disenfranchise others of their constitutional right to freedom of speech (wearing an MC patch) and freedom of assembly. These are First ammendment rights, for those of you that can read the constitution, please share with your knuckledragging 'brothers'. So you then become a domestic enemy of the constitution. You have now abandoned that which you fought for. Great phucking job, bozos. You make a lot of sense.

By the way, I do not ride a motorcycle. If I did, I'd ride by myself, and spend my days laughing at you clowns as you hang off your barstools trying to hide the fact that you couldn't fight your way out of direct sunlight without a crowd to back you up, and try not to get to close to your toothless skank girlfriends.

Since: Sep 07

Apopka

#328 Nov 27, 2007
Confused by the hypocracy wrote:
Lemme get this straight... I am a Vet, with a Silver/V device. If I wanted to start my own club here in Orlando, I would have to get permission from some other clowns? Am I reading this right?
Go here and educate yourself. Apparently your totally clueless about a lot of things, including toothless women.

www.nflcoc.com

It always amazes me how people hear something from some idiot and run out and parrot them, never checking if there might be even a little bit of truth connected to it.

You might think I'm just a dumb biker, but at least I'm capable of original thought. Do you even know the concept of that???
You Are Dumb

United States

#329 Nov 27, 2007
Tinman13 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm just a dumb biker.
Can't argue with that.
clueless ones

Fort Stewart, GA

#330 Nov 28, 2007
"clueless ones" Hey, that's a good MC name. Who wants to joint?
Lucifer

United States

#331 Nov 28, 2007
.....laughing, Satan spreads his wings.....
Niterave

Atlanta, GA

#332 Nov 28, 2007
Tinman13 wrote:
<quoted text>
Go here and educate yourself. Apparently your totally clueless about a lot of things, including toothless women.
www.nflcoc.com
It always amazes me how people hear something from some idiot and run out and parrot them, never checking if there might be even a little bit of truth connected to it.
You might think I'm just a dumb biker, but at least I'm capable of original thought. Do you even know the concept of that???
And here is another site that will offer a more Basic understanding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_club

“n/a”

Since: Nov 07

USA

#333 Nov 28, 2007
Gramps wrote:
<quoted text>
What's your point? If this guy has a honorable discharge so what. It's the fact he was beaten by a pack on Veterans Day. You are from your posts, pro VNVMC or VNVMC and Don't care that Vets beating up Vets on OUR special days just******* sucks. You can whip this horse all day, but the facts are out there..The VNVMC and the whatever their Legs? Oh yes, they SUPPORT Vietnam Veterans, I keep forgetting they are a club too? Did something on a day when its reserved for SPECIAL Veterans Events. Hey, they had plenty of other days to pick from to do..lets say business. They are NOT making friends and that = NO RESPECT in the long run. If they keep this up, veterans will not want to join them but they will get the lower crop of Troops what you don't need in any MC. The leadership is trying to turn it over but to who and who have they learned? If I was a young man, I would look at a 1% club. They have class acts and THEY started it all. IF you what action, that is where its at and they need young MEN! The government is the enemy but these guys what to be the Bog Dog of the Vets MC world. Personally, I look for the US Military Vets MC to overtake them at some point as they have a class act. Its BEING noticed..Good for them. Back to whipping this Blog again to death!
Noway most of the US Military MC are just supporters never been in the service and run when another club rides into a bar.. So how are they going to run things
Biker X

Gainesville, FL

#334 Nov 28, 2007
Ironhead wrote:
The shame is the media never tells both sides of the story. The cowards are the ones who kicked back and watched their "brother" get beat.
It was sixty to three. The other two tried to help, but were surrounded, and manhandled by the other 50-55 that wern't beating Joe at the time. Get your best friend, and both of you get in the middle of 50-55 others, and try to fight your way out. Think you would win?
Veteran Supporter

Forest City, IA

#335 Nov 28, 2007
I am sorry that such an event took place at all - let alone on such a special day. Many Vets choose to ride together and spend time with others who understand what they have been through. I always felt that a veteran was a veteran no matter what branch they served in, what war they fought in, what division they were in or what rank they aspired to. I do know that there has always been a friendly competition between different branches of the service - I have family who demonstrate this. It should remain that way - a friendly competition and not a serious thing but in reality that has happened for decades. Even in the world of motorcycling many clubs have several divisions but they work together to set them up and support them - just as they worked together in times of war. Veterans have fought for our right to freedom of choice and freedom of speech and freedom in general and I hope that they can come together to support each other and enjoy their freedom together in some more mature way.
Lucifer

United States

#336 Nov 28, 2007
VNV - Legacy - 2d Brigade....all these patches are one club?? What is next? H.O.G.????
HARLEY RIDER

Satellite Provider

#337 Nov 29, 2007
We all know there is some truth to all stories,it appears the truth is, that Rodack got his A$$ kicked for some reason, that some one knows.
What I can't believe is that all these people claiming to members or associates of all these MC's are putting out MC business on the net. MY business, is just that My business, just like Rodack and who ever kicked his A$$, their business is there business, wanna poke fun have at it, wanna A$$ whoop'n keep dropping names and patch affiliation's and i'm sure someone might be at your clubhouse when you get back from a ride.
All that being said I'm going riding, GOOD DAY
FRIGGIN OLD GOAT

United States

#338 Nov 29, 2007
I am a motorcycle rider and have been since the early 60's. I belong to an Veterans MC which has active duty members serving this country right now. Our club believes in and still takes very seriously the Oath of Allegance we took when we entered the military service of this country.

My suggestion to all of you that have a problem with any RC/MC/VMC that performs acts of terrorism, chooses to ignore the Constitutional Rights of other riders, and puts a biker code before our laws, is to stop attending their events or contributing to their fundraisers.
If you like a fundraising cause, contribute to them directly taking that club out of the loop.

When a group of MC riders like these comes into an event, a bike night, or just is riding down the street, turn your back to them and don't even acknowledge they exist. Ask your entire club and your friends to do the same.

In the case of the VNV MC and what happened in Paisley, FL. This is not the first time this particular group has dishonored veterans. This time someone brought it out to the general public. I will write a letter and send an email to the National Headquarters of Rolling Thunder and I ask that everyone else do the same. I will express my total disgust for what these men did and I won't ever participate in the Ride to the Wall from the Pentagon to the Sguare as long as the VNV MC is leading it. The National VNV MC has had ample time to denounce these actions and have choosen not to do anything which shows the true color of the entire club. If you belong to it and don't do anything then you are part of the problem.

I will be at the Vietnam Wall this coming Memorial Day weekend to show my respect to those that deserve it like I have for many years in the past. The names on that wall are honorable. It is a dishonor to them that gave their lives to have a motorcycle club named after a country, an event in our history, to chooses to ignore the Constitutional Rights that those heros died for.

You can call a pig an Eagle but if it acts and smells like a pig, it's a pig.
sandman

Houston, TX

#339 Nov 29, 2007
test
Deal with it

AOL

#340 Nov 29, 2007
Friggin Old Goat,why don't you just set the example and print out a couple hundred copies of your comments and you and your club go and distribute them at the next VNV/LV event.

In your own words, "if you don't do anything then you are part of the problem."

Let me know how it works out.
American

Greensboro, NC

#341 Nov 29, 2007
Deal with it----- you're an idiot---- Deal with it.
Bayou

AOL

#342 Nov 29, 2007
LawDog wrote:
I'm a Vietnam Vet and rode with a MC out of California are patch clearly stated Veterans Of Vietnam but this did not stop them. In Cal we never had any problems around the Sac. area but when we crossed into the Reno Nevada area all things changed even after I told them I was an off duty police officer A Legacy Vet told me he did not give a danm and told us we got a pass this one time. I retired now and have moved to Reno to be with my family but can not ride with my patch its sad. Perhaps its not there whole club but each chapter? In the Sac. area no problems in the Reno area very hard. The one thing I would like to dispell is they are no wantabes these guys are hard core so if going through Reno beware of the Veitnam vets and Legacy vets mc.
Lawdog,
Your putting on a Back patch to play in the MC world would be like me putting on a Badge and
playing Cop.Now do you understand??
Bayou

AOL

#343 Nov 29, 2007
Confused by the hypocracy wrote:
Lemme get this straight... I am a Vet, with a Silver/V device. If I wanted to start my own club here in Orlando, I would have to get permission from some other clowns? Am I reading this right?
VNV MC/Legacy Vets claim to be the dominant Vets MC... and appoint themselves the authority to decide what patches a club can wear in a lot of areas. 1%er clubs claim to "ride free" but then also decide who can be an MC. From what I can gather, there's some sort of fear that a group that does not "uphold the traditions of a True MC" may bring some sort of discredit to the MC world from the rest of the community.(Exactly what does that mean, are you eliminating those that bathe regularly and are not willing to commit felonies?) Yeah, right. The actions of the VNVMC, as applauded by those "in the know" about the MC world, really do you justice. I have SO much respect for you biker types now.
Ok, I can at least see the genuine nature of the 1%ers. They have decided, albeit without right to do so, to replace the law of the land with their own "code". Like the rest of the world cares. I'm almost tempted to start a club just to see if they would really do anything. Um... lessee... the "Generally Carrying a Concealed Weapon MC" oughtta do it. 1%er, meet .45 caliber.
Hey clueless ones (VNVMC, Legacy Vets (called aptly their 'bitch club' by another club's website) MC), get this: Veterans served under an oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies foriegn and domestic. So you claim the right now to disenfranchise others of their constitutional right to freedom of speech (wearing an MC patch) and freedom of assembly. These are First ammendment rights, for those of you that can read the constitution, please share with your knuckledragging 'brothers'. So you then become a domestic enemy of the constitution. You have now abandoned that which you fought for. Great phucking job, bozos. You make a lot of sense.
By the way, I do not ride a motorcycle. If I did, I'd ride by myself, and spend my days laughing at you clowns as you hang off your barstools trying to hide the fact that you couldn't fight your way out of direct sunlight without a crowd to back you up, and try not to get to close to your toothless skank girlfriends.
You are about the most clueless I've read so far go ahead and start your own Club.Make it a 3 piece patch(top rocker,center piece and lower rocker)have the lower rocker say Virginia since thats where you are claiming turf,MAKE sure you
have that MC patch.Go to every MC event you can.You don't need to waste your money on a scoot just go to the events and shoot your BIG MOUTH off with your .45 Dick extender and you can learn first hand from those who will gladly teach.
greybearder

Mobile, AL

#344 Nov 29, 2007
Kipper wrote:
Don't fret people, the Dominate MC in the southeast has a handle on this collection of clowns. They will be dealt with accordingly. hose in the know know what MC I speak of.
OUTLAWS 1% MC and U.S.MILITARY VETS MC. USMVMC is OL's vet support club.OUTLAWS are the dominate MC in Florida with 13-14 chapters in FL.IT IS A BLACK AND WHITE WORLD! SYLO AOA FOREVER
support 81 red and white

Mobile, AL

#345 Nov 29, 2007
For all the don't have a clue people. Are motorcycle clubs really still around? Click these patch pictures and find out. And these are just a few. http://www.arn1e.co.uk/colours1_files/colours...
Mike

Hagerstown, MD

#346 Nov 29, 2007
greybearder wrote:
<quoted text> OUTLAWS 1% MC and U.S.MILITARY VETS MC. USMVMC is OL's vet support club.OUTLAWS are the dominate MC in Florida with 13-14 chapters in FL.IT IS A BLACK AND WHITE WORLD! SYLO AOA FOREVER
Just wondering there Greybearder, how does the AOA feel about those women wearing a USMVMC patch as supporters??????? Is that why it is called a bitch club??

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