Leader of Orlando-area motorcycle clu...

Leader of Orlando-area motorcycle club assaulted on Veterans Day

There are 765 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Nov 18, 2007, titled Leader of Orlando-area motorcycle club assaulted on Veterans Day. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Joe Rodak, local boss of the Warrior Brotherhood Veterans Motorcycle Club, rolled up to the group's clubhouse after a 100-mile ride across Central Florida on Nov.

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POPS

Virginia Beach, VA

#287 Nov 26, 2007
lhhrwc wrote:
To Leatherneck in LA ... Maybe you should get your facts straight also. Not everthing you hear is factual. What you print you may have to eat! And life aint always easy ...'67-68 RVN USMC
Couldn't have been said better. I will say this, the Leathernecks MC in FL get along with the VNV MC because I have seen them together at events in FL supporting Vet functions. I guess what it comes down to it, is maybe the Leathernecks MC have some brains in FL with respect and this is why they get respect back unlike California.
POPS

Portsmouth, VA

#288 Nov 26, 2007
Gramps wrote:
I see alot of MC's here. I have been in the patch world but like some got out after losing a leg and hand to a DUI driver recently. We have the WBVMC here. Seems like this club is split. I read where the CA. Officer made things sound if they are just ok with the VNVMC everywhere. Wrong! As to the VNVMC doing this before..Oh yes and what happened in Houston,Tx last year? Yep..9 jumped one. The In Country Vets MC then become IN COUNTRY MC. Every club has bad apples and you can't hold one member up as the club. EVEN though he does or she does represents his or her club. THEIR actions cause everyone in the club grief when they talk crap. However, I have watched the VNVMC go downhill and now pass their actions and ways on to another group that isn't even it's own MC but is a part of theirs as stated on their web pages. They will not put on the Diamond but do wear it backeast in some states but not across the america. They first want to grow and then come out as a 1% club. Lets face it, it wouldn't look good if the big boys jump vets. I tell you though they will and do when needed no matter what club your patch. The part though of wearing the name Vietnam Vets on your back and someone seeing you, is they think you are just a Nam Vet. They dont know that the VNVMC wear a patch that lets you know if you were a Vietnam Vet or not. Us Nam Vets are getting old and what we do is to let all vets ride in the club of their choice and not ride them. Heck the Christian MC's are at the bar after I've gone home. They don't get crap by anyone. I think I'll start the first Crack MC and tick off everyone. I would get alot of members though, yea people. I'll end this saying that the big boys are watching and they have vets in their MC's too. Watch who pick on..you could be wearing your Colors under your T-shirts next. Vietnam Vet 1967
Maybe you should do some more research. I live on the east coast and there are a difference between the VNV USA (Bottom rocker) and the VNV Northeast (Bottom rocker) who are a 1%er and not affiliated with each other. VNV USA is not a 1%er. But the good thing is in the biker world, it is easy to know the distinction between the two by the bottom rockers.
POPS

Portsmouth, VA

#289 Nov 26, 2007
eileen wrote:
<quoted text>you don't have it anywhere near right...somehow you got your facts all screwed up
I'll just say this, I have read the posts on your buddy, Joe from a few sites. He was thrown out of one club, started problems internally with WBMC, has a big mouth, dishonorably discharged which in my eyes is the lowest of low. BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU LIVE WITH SH$%, YOU SMELL LIKE SH@# so you must be SH@#. ha/ha.
LEATHERNECKS

Fort Stewart, GA

#290 Nov 26, 2007
If you do a search you will see that there's about 3 or 4 diferent LEATHERNECKS Clubs.
POPS

Portsmouth, VA

#291 Nov 26, 2007
Where were all these Vet clubs when the war first started? I remember hearing countless stories about VNV MC protecting memorials around the country from protesters. One in particular was in Little Rock, AR. About 3-4000 protesters showed up to protest at the VNV memorial in the state capital. VNV MC showed up and surrounded the memorial and protected it. Every MC in AR showed up to support them. Needless to say, the protestors found it in their best interests to protest elsewhere. I'm for free speech but there is a time/place on where to protest. Memorials aren't the place. Anyhow, this is one of about 100 incidents with them around the country. Where were all you so-called Vets for this?
true faith rider

AOL

#292 Nov 26, 2007
It really all comes down to this, DOES the VNVMC REALLY have the "right" to harrass, bully and overwhelm other MC clubs? And if they "think" so, why can't they do it man to man, instead of in large numbers? Not all the the troops are like this one, but the one that continually does this gives all of them a bad name. The very fact that they choose VFW's, the Moving Wall and Veterans day functions proves that they have NO RESPECT for fellow brothers in arms. They are thugs and bullies. That is the bottom line.
MRA

United States

#293 Nov 26, 2007
Everyone's Constitutional Rights were fought for by every veteran who took the Oath of Allegiance.
These rights were and are still defended by our men and women in uniform and many gave the ultimate sacrafice for everyones Freedom of Choice under the laws of this country.
If you are a true American Patriot who has the mindset to be free and not be oppressed by those who would violate your civil rights, then join us,the Motorcycle Riders Alliance, to protect the rights of all riders.
www.m-r-a.info
Just an outsider

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#294 Nov 26, 2007
POPS wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll just say this, I have read the posts on your buddy, Joe from a few sites. He was thrown out of one club, started problems internally with WBMC, has a big mouth, dishonorably discharged which in my eyes is the lowest of low. BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU LIVE WITH SH$%, YOU SMELL LIKE SH@# so you must be SH@#. ha/ha.
So you know for a fact that Joe was kicked out of the service and you are not just taking the word of "Rocky" and "Jammer"? You yourself have seen with your own 2 beady eyes his dishonorable dicharge?
Deal with it

AOL

#295 Nov 26, 2007
The VNVMC/LEGASY VETS MC wears two different patches but is ONE club...
One for Vietnam Vets (in-country as well as era vets) and the other for all other vets who served after Vietnam.
The VNVMC is the oldest and dominate Para-military Motorcycle Club in the WORLD.
There motto is "Give None Take None" Yes, they do take care of business when the need arises This is because every time you get two vets together who own motorcycles they decide to form their own club and slap on a MC cube on the back of their vest as if they are a real biker club. There would never be a problem with any veterans forming a group of riding vets as long as they left off the cube stating they are a MC. Example, American Legion Riders or the Combat Veterans Association.
The VNV did not make this rule and it does not only apply to vets, it applies to any two or three guys wishing to start their own MC CLUB. There is such a thing as protocol in the MC world. If you're in it you live it if you are not in it, live your own life and let those who wish to be in a real MC deal with the rules. You will only get in trouble if you decide you are someone so special that you can change the rules or not obey them.
When VNV leads the rolling thunder parade every year how come no one calls them "Thugs" Simple solution, want to wear a MC patch join an existing established motorcycle club. And if you don't ever want to be bothered, join the VNVMC if they will have you!
American

Greensboro, NC

#296 Nov 26, 2007
Maybe the VNV should have Jane Fonda's picture for their backpatch since they do not believe in the Freedoms and Civil rights that are granted to us the American Citizens. Jail the SCUM!!!!!!

“n/a”

Since: Nov 07

USA

#297 Nov 26, 2007
Badger wrote:
<quoted text>
So what you are saying is Rocky made the threats and Joe did nothing? If this is what happened, why didn't the VVMC/LVMC go after Rocky? Let me guess they did not have the balls!
Wrong.. more to the story than you'll every understand so don't try.
General Vo Nguyen Giap

United States

#298 Nov 26, 2007
Deal with it says: The VNVMC is the oldest and dominate Para-military Motorcycle Club in the WORLD.

And they still haven't learned anything. This publicity should have been avoided. Two walk into jungle, one walk out. No story, no sh*t.

“n/a”

Since: Nov 07

USA

#299 Nov 26, 2007
Tax Payer wrote:
I think It's time for the government to Pass a law that says if you are paid by the tax payers you can NOT belong to the VNV/Legacy MC. Make it against the UCMJ for our war fighters to participate in this nonsense. I don't see why active duty military should be a part of this dangerous lifestyle....And able to go around beating honest tax paying americans.
Are you as STUPID as you sound..What does being a TAX PAYER have to do with anything here. They put themselves in DANGER for you and your family can sit home and have STUPID opinions like this. If you want MCs in the military don't just pick on only one. Hell why don't you go overseas and protect you family yourself and we'll all sleep much better at night knowing you're not here running your mouth.

“n/a”

Since: Nov 07

USA

#300 Nov 26, 2007
LEATHERNECKS wrote:
If you do a search you will see that there's about 3 or 4 diferent LEATHERNECKS Clubs.
Now what kind of shit is that? One name and 4 different clubs some like ya'll can't get along either just like the WNVMC..Somebody has to answer to somebody or the wrong club could get into shit that one to the other 3 started.. Sounds kinda screwed up.
FRIGGIN OLD GOAT

United States

#301 Nov 26, 2007
(QUOTE "Deal with it"The VNVMC is the oldest and dominate Para-military Motorcycle Club in the WORLD.}
I wasn't going to make any more posts on this thread but this one deserves a comment. You better go check your history out youngster before you start making claims like that one. Are you the spokesman for the VNVMC? When Rolling Thunder allowed the VNVMC to lead the Ride to the Wall the VNVMC wasn't what it is today. Most of the VNVMC were honorable men then. 20 years can change who and what an organization becomes as shown by the actions of the VNVMC in Florida recently. Go back and read your National website and then come back on here and tell us that everything that is written there is the truth like not getting into other club's business, and being non territorial. Maybe it was true in the beginning but now the propaganda on the VNVMC website is just that, propaganda BS. Maybe Rolling Thunder should rethink who leads The Ride to the Wall and put a club in front who has the honor and the intergrity to hold that valued position. The VNVMC has shown that they are not by not coming out and making a statement about what happened on Veterans Day in Florida. If they were honorable men they(National VNVMC) would have apologized to every veteran who every served for the actions of those that took place on OUR DAY. By not doing that I think we all know who the VNVMC really are. I can see that reading anymore of this crap is just a waste of my time.
USMV Rooster

Helena, AL

#302 Nov 26, 2007
Mo Lubee wrote:
Hey, you meet the nicest people on a Harley.
I've always thought of bike gangs as being the direct descendants of the outlaw gangs that used to ride horses in the old West. The horses have been replaced by hawgs, while behavior patterns remain the same. Instead of rustling and bank robbery, these modern outlaws deal in drugs.
Biker gangs are a collection of mobile thugs, at times patriotic thugs - but nonetheless - thugs.
Pseudo-patriotism has offered a convenient cover and even limited societal acceptability to many of the large gangs, while involving themselves in drug smuggling and sales at the same time. Naturally they don't want some little upstart group stealing their cover, hence the attack.
They rob, they beat, they even kill, then ride off into the sunset... just like the Clantons and the James gangs used to do decades ago throughout the old west.
So where's Wyatt Earp when we really need him?
You have no idea what you are talking about. Some people should open their eyes and minds long before they ever open their mouths. That's like saying only people with road rage drive cars.But, however, thanks to Vets you are entitled to your opinion. so, you're welcome.
BOO

AOL

#303 Nov 26, 2007
FEAR ME, FOR I AM NOT GOD! I am MC!! HOW MUCH FOR THE HOMELY WIFE. I TAKE THAT BACK, HOW MUCH FOR THE OLD DOG!!
BuckStripes

AOL

#304 Nov 26, 2007
POPS wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe about a year ago, the commandant wanted USMC biker riders to join a MC/Riding Club for better safety or something to that effect.
...Dunno about that, Pops. But about 2 years ago, there was some flack caused by Jarheads riding out of 29 Palms in California. Trouble with civilians on the road and in nearby towns, and whatever else was specifically alleged...In Marine Corps jargon, it boiled down to conduct unbecoming and detrimental to good order, etc.
...Dunno that it ever went to the Commandant his own self, but supposedly complaints were filed with lower echelon at MC Hqs in DC...
...Guys who told me about it are no longer in the Corps (normal discharge), and one is dead (killed in a car wreck)...
...Could be that Hqs would prefer to have some control over active-duty Marine riders--or The Brass could take a far more drastic step...
...In that regard, it might be a good time to cool down the heat generated by this local incident, so it doesn't blow up into a major shatstorm...

“n/a”

Since: Nov 07

USA

#305 Nov 26, 2007
true faith rider wrote:
It really all comes down to this, DOES the VNVMC REALLY have the "right" to harrass, bully and overwhelm other MC clubs? And if they "think" so, why can't they do it man to man, instead of in large numbers? Not all the the troops are like this one, but the one that continually does this gives all of them a bad name. The very fact that they choose VFW's, the Moving Wall and Veterans day functions proves that they have NO RESPECT for fellow brothers in arms. They are thugs and bullies. That is the bottom line.
Another Stupid shit that has no clue to the biker MC world..In war no you check what the date is? How many times does things happen on Holidays some planned and some just happen. Go back and watch your fiction TV shows.

“n/a”

Since: Nov 07

USA

#306 Nov 26, 2007
General Vo Nguyen Giap wrote:
Deal with it says: The VNVMC is the oldest and dominate Para-military Motorcycle Club in the WORLD.
And they still haven't learned anything. This publicity should have been avoided. Two walk into jungle, one walk out. No story, no sh*t.
That's right but we live in a different jungle and with this new CSI shit. lol
Just have to get the point across which has happened but these readers on this page just have no clue and can be funny at times because of their not knowing the real life just what they read,

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