Immigrants rally in Orlando

Immigrants rally in Orlando

There are 1590 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Mar 28, 2009, titled Immigrants rally in Orlando. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Robert Cote Jr, and Ricky Cote look on as their mom, Rita Cote, shows her monitoring ankle bracelet during a town hall meeting near Orlando on Saturday, March 28.

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fred

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#30 Mar 29, 2009
Truth wrote:
Undocumented immigrants paying more taxes than you think!!
Eight million Undocumented immigrants pay Social Security, Medicare and income taxes. Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America’s bedrock belief in fairness. But many “pull-up-the-drawbridge” politicians want to do just that when it comes to Undocumenetd immigrants.
The fact that Undocumented immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two thirds of Undocumented immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes.
Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation’s hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don’t pay for.
In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified Undocumented immigrants from nearly all means tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization.
The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education. Nevertheless, Tancredo and his ilk pushed a bill through the House criminalizing all aid to illegal aliens — even private acts of charity by priests, nurses and social workers.
Potentially, any soup kitchen that offers so much as a free lunch to an illegal could face up to five years in prison and seizure of assets. The Senate bill that recently collapsed would have tempered these draconian measures against private aid.
But no one — Democrat or Republican — seems to oppose the idea of withholding public services. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law that requires everyone who gets Medicaid — the government-funded health care program for the poor — to offer proof of U.S. citizenship so we can avoid “theft of these benefits by illegal aliens,” as Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., puts it. But, immigrants aren’t flocking to the United States to mooch off the government.
According to a study by the Urban Institute, the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don’t have Social Security numbers to file taxes.
One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS’ scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers.
Your stats are from a bogus left wing organization.
Amazing

Littleton, CO

#32 Mar 29, 2009
Truth wrote:
Undocumented immigrants paying more taxes than you think!!
Eight million Undocumented immigrants pay Social Security, Medicare and income taxes. Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America’s bedrock belief in fairness. But many “pull-up-the-drawbridge” politicians want to do just that when it comes to Undocumenetd immigrants.
The fact that Undocumented immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two thirds of Undocumented immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes.
Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation’s hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don’t pay for.
In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified Undocumented immigrants from nearly all means tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization.
The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education. Nevertheless, Tancredo and his ilk pushed a bill through the House criminalizing all aid to illegal aliens — even private acts of charity by priests, nurses and social workers.
Potentially, any soup kitchen that offers so much as a free lunch to an illegal could face up to five years in prison and seizure of assets. The Senate bill that recently collapsed would have tempered these draconian measures against private aid.
But no one — Democrat or Republican — seems to oppose the idea of withholding public services. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law that requires everyone who gets Medicaid — the government-funded health care program for the poor — to offer proof of U.S. citizenship so we can avoid “theft of these benefits by illegal aliens,” as Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., puts it. But, immigrants aren’t flocking to the United States to mooch off the government.
According to a study by the Urban Institute, the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don’t have Social Security numbers to file taxes.
One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS’ scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers.
Undocumented immigrants? Oh how PC of you. They're illegal alien border jumpers, pumping out anchor after anchor as fast as they can. The purported amounts "some" pay in doesn't come close to the amount they take away from legal Americans including our Vets. They can take their illegal alien butts out of this country!
Uh Oh

Xenia, OH

#33 Mar 29, 2009
Recordo wrote:
No, uh uh. Does not compute.
Mexican workers were originally brought in to pick hand crops, and nobody had a problem with that because at the end of the season, they went home with money in their pockets and we paid $1 for a head of lettuce.
Then the housing boom needed cheap alternatives to union carpenters, plasterers, electricians and laborers. The Mexicans jumped forward and did the work. When hotels and tourism became a cash crop, they cleaned the rooms, did the laundry and cooked the food.
Again, nobody complained because the politicians were being paid off, there were plenty of jobs to go around and the border was still more or less open.
Then a few things happened: Mexico fell on hard times: a lot of surplus corn that used to go to Mexico went into ethanol instead, and...
The US housing boom finally hit high water and began to recede with jobs disappearing overnight. Tourism took a hit as well and Americans suddenly wanted to clean bathrooms to keep food on their tables.
And lastly, the US economy went for a bath and two groups floated to the top in time for the commentators to sell air time: the United Auto Workers and Illegal Immigrants. It was 90% bogus, made up, manufactured, but we wanted someone, anyone to blame for hard times and these groups were made for TV.
Blaming Mexicans for the scarcity of low-level jobs is like blaming AIG bonus recipients for the US economy. It looks good in a 15-second spot but it really is BS.
I'm "blaming" illegal aliens for breaking our laws. That is a FACT.

All the other detrimental effects are just other reasons to hate them.

Mexicans just happen to be the worst offenders. That's ALSO a fact.

Pro illegal anarchists have drawn the line in the sand - they've put Americans on the defensive because of that.

We're simply reacting to their offensiveness.
UpL8

Palm Bay, FL

#34 Mar 29, 2009
"I am an American citizen, and I am a veteran of this country," said Robert Cote, who fought with the U.S. Army in Operation Desert Storm. "I'm ashamed and I'm angry at the way Latino immigrants are treated in this country.... I fought in war for this country, and I'm going to fight this war for my family" and all immigrants.
I have no sympathy for you Mr. Cote. If you were a law abiding citizen then you would have made CERTAIN you directed the woman you love to TAKE A PUBLIC OATH OF CITIZENSHIP TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, denounce her citizenship of her birth country and you would have made certain that you both would have followed the requirements of her application for citizenship so you wouldn't be in the expensive mess in which you and your wife put your family. By the way, those you purport to represent are NOT immigrants. There are illegal aliens in this county. IMMIGRANTS are those who have come from another country, LEGALLY entered the United States of America by denouncing their citizenship to their birth country and taken an oath of citizenship to the United States and her constitution. You are an embarrassment to this country and YOU make me angry with all your lazy whining, your I want this and I want that attitude all the while you spit in the face of the American citizens you proclaim you fought for in Desert Storm. You make me angry by the fact of your actions: disobeying federal immigration law and then expecting the government to change the rules you, your wife and so many others like you ignore for your selfish gain. You want to support this country? Then abide by the law, help you wife to file her application for citizenship and shut your incendiary, anarchistic mouth.
"It is a very great mistake to imagine that the object of loyalty is the authority and interest of one individual man, however dignified by the applause or enriched by the success of popular actions." (Samuel Adams)
Glasnos

Lakeland, FL

#35 Mar 29, 2009
Oh good! Throw a net over them, and charter a cargo ship ... one way.
Easy does it

Zanesville, OH

#36 Mar 29, 2009
Just wondered if it's that easy(marry a citizen, make some babies) to become a legal citizen elsewhere-- say in France, England, Ireland, Egypt, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, Russia. Is the U.S. the only place that has laws against illegal aliens? We catch all the flack about it. It seems to me that if the laws require illegals to be deported, that two adults should make better decisions about bringing children into the problem. This stuff makes for good dramatic movies but in reality it boils down to bad judgment. Bad judgment involving children inevitably leads to disastrous consequences. Asi es la vida.
no haters

Boca Raton, FL

#37 Mar 29, 2009
noone hates or is singling out the hispanics.... rules are rules, whoever came into the country illegally, either by overstaying their turist visa or thru the Mexican border broke rules knowingly and willingly. doesnt law enforcement enforce rules?? what if noone did anything , this country would turn into what all the illegals are trying to flee. the parents themselves are to blame for putting hte children in these situations, not the law enforcement authorities. shame on u parents.....
Deno

Fellsmere, FL

#38 Mar 29, 2009
TRUTH?! More like MISGUIDED. I can tell you without a doubt that we don't even know for sure how many illegals are in the country and you are telling me they are paying taxes ? Based on what ? I dealt with this issue before retiring from the Dept of Justice and your pseudo-facts are comical...

My wife is a construction contract specialist and you should see the results when they do 'checks' for illegal immigrant employees at a job site in the mornings. Lots of employers providing low pay, but in cash, to illegals for cheap labor - you think they are paying taxes ?

Go to any emergency room (like I did last summer with chest pains) and talk to the staff about the so-called 'self-pay' folks that walk in the door for service and NEVER pay a dime - the preponderance are Spanish speaking in Florida. Its a sham and you and I are paying for it...
SurferGirl

AOL

#39 Mar 29, 2009
This article was a joke.
These people are not immigrants or undocumented anything...... They are illegal law breaking criminals and I have no sympathy for them, the folks they married or their children.
They need not be separated from their families... they all have the choice to take their families back to their countries of origin with them when they are deported.
The icing on the cake was the man who stood up screaming in spanish. You enter my Country illegaly and can't even be bothered to learn English but yet you want the rights and benifits that are reserved for citizens.
Why dosn't ICE show up at these so called rallys to arrest these illegal law breakers like they would at any other gathering of known law breakers?
UpL8

Palm Bay, FL

#40 Mar 29, 2009
How is it that those illegal aliens in our country have such a loud voice and garner so much support from OUR state's representatives? Would Rep. Gutierrez give his citizen constituents the same attention to their demands of upholding immigration law? I doubt it. That means he is not doing the job he was elected to do: represent and work for the benefit of American citizens. He's not doing his job.
captain jack

Winter Garden, FL

#41 Mar 29, 2009
GO back to where you are from. These people were law breakers stealing American jobs. I say hooray for their arrest and deportation! Get out of our country law breakers!!!!!
poor taxpayer

Oviedo, FL

#42 Mar 29, 2009
fred wrote:
First thing Obama should do is give all the illegals a dictionary and have them look up the word ILLEGAL.
Amen. INS should have been at this "rally". I am also sick of alleged "religious leaders" coddling lawbreakers. The disgusting Pabellón de la Victoria should have its tax exempt status revoked.
Answers

Lake Mary, FL

#43 Mar 29, 2009
You know immigration is a good thing, we should want the people that want to be here. However that said what is wrong with doing things the RIGHT WAY??? What lesson does it teach your kids, no it's ok to cheat and break the law?? How is that a good lesson? What about the POOR people here that struggle daily to pay bills and find food. We take money away from those people to give it to people who are not even citizens? How about some personal responsibility on their parts. Apply for citizenship, and yes I know the government runs it and it takes forever, sorry that's what you get when you want government to do everything for you....a slow cumbersome process. Teach you kids that doing the right things have greater rewards in the end. Not taking a short cut and then crying foul when you are caught. Crime is crime period. If you allow the small things to go unnoticed, it always leads to bigger things.

“Not enough comets”

Since: Sep 07

Fort Lauderdale

#44 Mar 29, 2009
Maybe they don't deserve social services like public school for their kids, food stamps, housing subsidy, healthcare, etc. Maybe they really should be on the far end of the conga line. But the fact is millions of them are HERE, right now and this America for Americans pulpit is pretty weak.

We had our chance to stop them, to identify the illegals and their fake IDs. Now they live here, shop at Walmart, buy cars and trucks and pay FICA into bogus accounts.

If you'd rather have a green sky instead of a blue one, it's your right to stamp your little feet. But that doesn't change a thing.

Historically, we have only approached this problem by making immigrants into Americans, not by building higher fences. I don't want a flood of poor running from their national poverty and dragging down ours. But if you can't stop them at the gates, forget it and move on to a manageable problem.

The White majority screamed bloody murder about Miami Cubans speaking Spanish until two things happened: 1) Cubans became the majority, and 2) they dumped far more money into the system than the outraged Americans they displaced.

Money talks. Xenophobia walks.
Uh Oh

Xenia, OH

#45 Mar 29, 2009
UpL8 wrote:
How is it that those illegal aliens in our country have such a loud voice and garner so much support from OUR state's representatives? Would Rep. Gutierrez give his citizen constituents the same attention to their demands of upholding immigration law? I doubt it. That means he is not doing the job he was elected to do: represent and work for the benefit of American citizens. He's not doing his job.
Shorty Gutierrez has violated his oath of office and is derelict in his duties to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

He is a traitor at best and an anarchist plant in our government at worst.

He is determine to undermine the United States of America and to replace our society with his 3rd world criminal compadres.

He is deSPICable.
Uh Oh

Xenia, OH

#46 Mar 29, 2009
Recordo, the reason white people stopped "screaming bloody murder" in Miami is because they LEFT when the Cubans destroyed it by BECOMING THE MAJORITY.

Latinos want to live near whites, but whites don't want to live near them.

Any wonder?
chester

Johnson City, TN

#47 Mar 29, 2009
ICE ICE ICE baby. Do your job and arrest lawbreakers. Focus on these gatherings and deport. If there were weekly meetings of robbers and rapist wouldn't the police be there to make an arrest? These people are sitting there on a silver platter, go to where they are.
Factchecker

Indianapolis, IN

#48 Mar 29, 2009
Uh Oh wrote:
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Pro illegal anarchists have drawn the line in the sand - they've put Americans on the defensive because of that.
We're simply reacting to their offensiveness.
Those "Pro-illegal anarchists" you keep talking about own meat packing plants in Iowa and Nebraska and Indiana.

Most illegals come here to make money by working. They send it back home to their families to feed all the kids they have there. Since the housing construction industry collapsed they have been going home to their families.

Blame those that HIRE these people. "IF you HIRE them, they will come." Remember that the next time you eat bacon or hamburger.
Larry

Carrollton, TX

#49 Mar 29, 2009
We don't want your illegal butt here. Go home and come to the US legally if you want too.
We owe you nothing and that is what you should get from us. And it is your fault because when you do get here all you want to do is remain a citizen of your third world country and not even attempt to fit in as a US citizen.
The US should do more to identify and oust the sorry illegals out of the country. Want help.... look to your own country for help.
Little Joe

United States

#50 Mar 29, 2009
Close the border now. Use all means nessary including the military. Next begin a systimatic search for all illegal aliens living in the US and deport. Fines and possible prison for flagerant employers of illegal aliens.Then we can begin to restore America.

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