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All Good Things

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The gas cans prove she lies. I think she was covering all her bases. She might need gas to set things on fire. Or she may say something crazy like she stopped and mowed lawns to get gas money for the trip and needed them for lawn mowers. Maybe her black helicopters that run on regular gas in her world needed fueling.

Since none of the murder items or clothing were found, did she burn everything but had no shovel to bury unless she borrowed one from the house. Did Travis have a shovel or gardening equipment? They really need to look into this at the 11th hour.

She's not frugal. She is bat sh*t crazy. Looks like a certain member of her family has the same crazy eyes too. Just squirrels looking for a nut.

She probably did this to be famous/infamous. Otherwise, she would die after years and years of being a truck stop waitress, living in her grandparents' white and blue frame ramshackle, dilapidated 1 bath cottage located in a third rate romance, low rent rendezvous ghetto/barrio.
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If Jodi was an "invited guest" into Travis' home, why did she testify that she found him in his office at the computer watching YouTube? If she were an invited guest, wouldnt he have opened the door for her?

Why was the screen to the office window removed? Did she break in through the window?

Travis had asked a friend to participate in a 'rite of protection' the night before he was murdered. He probably had the doors locked.

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Rambler wrote:
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Generally speaking, as I understand it the difference between 1st and 2nd degree is both are preplanned (or premeditated) but 1st degree considers the more diabolical element where the accused had TIME TO REFLECT but still proceeded. The States allegations that Jodi travelled from California planning the murder, then engaged in a sexual romp and photographic session meet the element of 1st degree........as opposed, for example, to the murder being committed after she slid unknowingly into the house and took him off guard. Even the drive from California to Mesa would be considered adequate time to reflect IMO.
Only Manslaughter meets the standards of NO premeditation, in someone was killed without any intent.
The State is clearly not arguing manslaughter or 2nd degree murder occurred or the death penalty would not be on the table.
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2nd Degree is result of the passion or in Arizona it is the reactive aggression. The emotional reacting to a perceived provocation at the time. The intent is formed at the time of the crime. No premeditation.

As far as the horrendous nature of crime it has not been determined exactly when Travis died and exactly what killed him. The shooting. The throat slicing. The stabbing or some combination of the three. For instance, if one of the methods is solely responsible for his death the other two are not killing but mutilation of a corpse. JM is trying to make it seem Travis was alive through all three methods and greatly suffered until last method employed took his life and then again he says Travis was dead from one method when Jodi continued killing him with another method. Makes no sense. But the evidence does not support either version. They are speculating about exactly when Travis died and from which method(s). They are all over the place with theories but nothing conclusive for special circumstances.
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amazing, gosh, did she tell the truth about anything?
Jodi even lied to her own diary. lol
Hi Barb. Her behavior AFTER the murder will certainly be considered by the jury.
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Rambler's assignment for the day.

Tally gas receipts

Tally total mileage for the trip

Tally her route all the way from Yreka to Southern California to Mesa and then to Utah and back to Redding.

Find all the people who may have been on the trip at any point, any stops she made and speculate as to where she left the murder weapons, clothes and imaginary rope.

Tally how many friends she still has.

Find out the name of her jail house good-looking lesbian lover

Get a map of Europe and speculate where Jar Jar Stabbs thinks she may leave.

Find out the name of the possible male sperm donor.

Study up on in-vitro

Count the number of eggs Jar Jar Jo Jo has left to harvest for in-vitro

Speculate as to why she never got pregnant
Hint: O and A sex never results in pregnancy.

If she ever was pregnant, speculate on who would have fathered a child

Calculate her fertility at almost age 33 and produce a chart with odds of her getting pregnant by in-vitro

Come back for next assignment when complete.

lol
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AN other wrote:
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Hi Barb. Her behavior AFTER the murder will certainly be considered by the jury.
They must be so happy the trial is near the end.
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All Good Things wrote:
The gas cans prove she lies. I think she was covering all her bases. She might need gas to set things on fire. Or she may say something crazy like she stopped and mowed lawns to get gas money for the trip and needed them for lawn mowers. Maybe her black helicopters that run on regular gas in her world needed fueling.
Since none of the murder items or clothing were found, did she burn everything but had no shovel to bury unless she borrowed one from the house. Did Travis have a shovel or gardening equipment? They really need to look into this at the 11th hour.
She's not frugal. She is bat sh*t crazy. Looks like a certain member of her family has the same crazy eyes too. Just squirrels looking for a nut.
She probably did this to be famous/infamous. Otherwise, she would die after years and years of being a truck stop waitress, living in her grandparents' white and blue frame ramshackle, dilapidated 1 bath cottage located in a third rate romance, low rent rendezvous ghetto/barrio.
Filling the EMPTY gas cans after the murder was her way of proving that she didn't go to Mesa. If she didn't go to Mesa, she didn't use any extra gas, hence the cans were full.

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Circumstantial evidence is most often employed in criminal trials. Many circumstances can create inferences about an accused's guilt in a criminal matter, including
the accused's resistance to arrest;
the presence of a motive or opportunity to commit the crime;
the accused's presence at the time and place of the crime;
=> any denials, evasions, or contradictions on the part of the accused;
=> and the general conduct of the accused.
(Holland v. United States, 348 U.S. 121, 75 S. Ct. 127, 99 L. Ed. 150 [1954]).
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Circumstantial Evidence is what JM has to work with and it is what makes his burden so heavy, especially in a capital murder proceeding. Very difficult to convince a jury of death penalty with circumstantial evidence.
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The point was, you missed it, is that JM is "off into a fantasy land".
If The Prosecutor of a death penalty case is off into a fantasy land, then that does not bode well for the conviction of Jodi Arias.

However it appears to me his intention is not to convict Jodi, but to enter evidence and exhibits into court record in preparation for upcoming trial/s.

The Walmart testimony was interesting -- how the READING ("the actual total of daily sales") and the DAILY SALES amount differ - so what can be purchased at a Walmart cash register that is not considered a Walmart sale? Maybe the guy on the Youtube video was not kidding when he said he sold PPL memberships while working at Walmart??? LOL
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Some points for clarity.

A frugal person who doesn't have any money doesn't embark on a 3,000 road trip.

A frugal person does not go and have nails, hair and Brazilian wax done.

A frugal person would rethink a trip where a car rental for days and days is required.

Now, figure this one out. Would it have been cheaper for Jar Jar Jo Jo to fly to Mesa and to West Jordan/SLC Utah? Now use your pea brain and figure out why she didn't fly or use other means of transportation.

Now, again figure out why a single white female would travel alone on a trip from Yreka to Southern Cal, over to Mesa, over to Las Vegas, Nevada and on to Utah or was Las Vegas a side trip on the way to Mesa? Let me look at the trip predictor again.

I need coffee. lol
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Hi Barb. Her behavior AFTER the murder will certainly be considered by the jury.
Do you have a poor memory and have already forgotten the extensive testimony regarding PTSD relating to traumatic events., and it's impact whereby people are not thinking clearly?

Given Jodi was not diagnosed as a sociopath, events which followed later - specifically washing a camera but NOT cleaning the murder scene - go towards proving she was not a cold, calculating murderess.

A while her behaviour AFTER the murder does not prove premeditated murder, it does support that a traumatic event did occur which is aligned to her self-defense argument.
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Filling the EMPTY gas cans after the murder was her way of proving that she didn't go to Mesa. If she didn't go to Mesa, she didn't use any extra gas, hence the cans were full.
Only ngracie could understand your backward sort of reasoning. LOL

Jodi's explanation that she didn't want to drive through the desert and risk running out of gas is the most logical.
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Look up the psychopath deviate on the MMPI

Another taste for Ram Ram and while you're at it, look at all 10 of the categories on MMPI
All Good Things

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multip...

Here's a link for you Ram-Ram

You won't understand what you're reading, but it will keep you busy while the adults talk.

Did your mom or dad ever play hide and seek with you and then never go look for you? Siblings did the same?

Why was Dum_Mott looking at the wrong scales and trying to act like she knows about psychology?

Today, the ME, next week possibly another ph.D (yawn).

“LEST WE FORGET...”

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I have a question. The rebuttal witness regarding the purchase of gas at the gas station in Salt Lake City around on June 6th around 4am in the morning......
If Travis was murdered June 4th and the state wants to use the purchase of gas carried in gascans to prove premeditation by Jodi hiding her tracks so to speak, then where's the evidence of purchase of gasoline for her car and to fill up the gascans which would have gotten her from Calfornia to Mesa, and then from Mesa to Salt Lake City between June 3rd and before June 6th.
Gas must be purchased BEFORE long distance travel, not AFTER it.
What is this June 6th evidence supposed to prove, when her visit to Ryan Burns in Utah was never an issue? If it's to prove she used cash to buy gas in the proceeding days, then why would she use a card on June 6th after the fact to prove she had earlier filled up gascans to get the Mesa?
I am also not understanding why the witness testified Jodi used a "credit card" to pay for the purchase, when the three items were debited from a bank account,as entered into evidence earlier. Debit and credit cards are not processed in the same manner and electronic store data would certainly indicate the method of payment accordingly.
I am more interested in where the witness works out!
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All Good Things wrote:
Some points for clarity.
A frugal person who doesn't have any money doesn't embark on a 3,000 road trip.
A frugal person does not go and have nails, hair and Brazilian wax done.
A frugal person would rethink a trip where a car rental for days and days is required.
Now, figure this one out. Would it have been cheaper for Jar Jar Jo Jo to fly to Mesa and to West Jordan/SLC Utah? Now use your pea brain and figure out why she didn't fly or use other means of transportation.
Now, again figure out why a single white female would travel alone on a trip from Yreka to Southern Cal, over to Mesa, over to Las Vegas, Nevada and on to Utah or was Las Vegas a side trip on the way to Mesa? Let me look at the trip predictor again.
I need coffee. lol
You're forgetting in this case the prosecution or defense is not portraying EITHER Jodi or Travis as sound-minded, rational-thinking people during the time the killing occurred.

So it makes no more sense for you to try to rationalize why Travis would want to get together with Jodi, either by him going to California or her going to Mesa, for a sexual encounter at the same time he was telling other people how fearful he was of her.

Because of the dysfunctional element to the storyline, it's impossible "to figure out" - dysfunction does not follow logic or reason. The jury is only asked to determine if the State has the Goods to Convict, beyond a reasonable doubt.....not get inside anyone's head.
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Do you have a poor memory and have already forgotten the extensive testimony regarding PTSD relating to traumatic events., and it's impact whereby people are not thinking clearly?
Given Jodi was not diagnosed as a sociopath, events which followed later - specifically washing a camera but NOT cleaning the murder scene - go towards proving she was not a cold, calculating murderess.
A while her behaviour AFTER the murder does not prove premeditated murder, it does support that a traumatic event did occur which is aligned to her self-defense argument.
If you would do your homework, you would find that males are more often labeled sociopaths and females borderline personality disorder.

Plus are you so dumb that you don't realize she skewed her answers on the MMPI and other tests?
Remember, she lied on her test or tests Dr. Samuels administered and he failed to do anything about it.

How many ph.d's does it take to testify for this one 11th grade drop out, lousy waitress, stray cat of a woman?

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If The Prosecutor of a death penalty case is off into a fantasy land, then that does not bode well for the conviction of Jodi Arias.
However it appears to me his intention is not to convict Jodi, but to enter evidence and exhibits into court record in preparation for upcoming trial/s.
The Walmart testimony was interesting -- how the READING ("the actual total of daily sales") and the DAILY SALES amount differ - so what can be purchased at a Walmart cash register that is not considered a Walmart sale? Maybe the guy on the Youtube video was not kidding when he said he sold PPL memberships while working at Walmart??? LOL
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>>>If The Prosecutor of a death penalty case is off into a fantasy land, then that does not bode well for the conviction of Jodi Arias.<<<

Not conviction of 1st Degree Murder but can get the lesser-included offense in 1st Degree of 2nd Degree Murder.
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Hey Ram Ram I'm not forgetting anything.

Go study up on the Robert Durst case and see if you can figure out how he got off in the disappearance of his wife and murder of his neighbor in Galveston.
Plus, there are other crimes he may have been involved in, but he is not in jail.

Don't come back until you can tell me exactly how he did it.

Also, see if you concur with Robert Durst's psychological diagnosis being changed from schizophrenia to Asperger's.
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whataboutcaylee wrote:
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I am more interested in where the witness works out!
The Iron lady?

I'd be more interested in how she has the time, if she also works a full time job.

Perhaps she has a set of weights in her Tesoro office in San Antonio Texas. LOL

However it is interesting to realize, given privacy concerns, that people's whereabouts can be tracked either by authorities under subpoena or unscrupulous employees in literally real time, by gas station centralized offices. She testified the cardholder's name and the last four digits of the credit card are captured, and that data is received within two or three minutes after the purchase being made.

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