Put brakes on proposal for a Confeder...

Put brakes on proposal for a Confederate tag

There are 1487 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Feb 29, 2008, titled Put brakes on proposal for a Confederate tag. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

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Concerned

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#1783 Jul 29, 2008
Bob is a nut! Slavery was the central issue. A state's right to have slaves was what the civil war was about. The economy revolved around slavery and to alot of black citizens the flag still represents the South's fight to keep slavery legal. Stop all the State's rights stuff. You Bob are an apologists.
lawman

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#1784 Jul 29, 2008
Beginning at 5:30 A.M., Confederate sharpshooters located on hills above the fort opened a devastating fire, killing many soldiers, including Booth. Forrest arrived on the field at midmorning and directed the assault that gained part of the fort for the Confederates. By 3:30 P.M., Forrest sent a surrender demand to Maj. William F. Bradford, now in command of the Union force. When Bradford delayed, Forrest attacked, quickly driving the defenders out of the fort and down the bank into a crossfire.

What happened next has served to place Fort Pillow second only in infamy in atrocities of that war to Andersonville, the most notorious of the Civil War prisoner‐of&#820 8;war camps. At Fort Pillow, many Union soldiers tried to surrender while others continued fighting or tried to run. Forrest either ordered his men to accept no surrender or his Confederates lost control but in either case, they began to slaughter black soldiers. The casualty list confirms a massacre. Confederates suffered 14 killed and 86 wounded, while the Union force lost 231 killed and 100 wounded; only 58 of the 226 surviving Union prisoners were black soldiers.

The U.S. Congress's Committee on the Conduct of the War investigated, and after much testimony from survivors—including horrifying accounts of black soldiers being buried alive—it denounced the Confederate actions as murder and atrocity. Forrest objected, and many historians have sided with his account but Forrest's best biographer, Brian Steel Wills, concluded that the committee's findings were valid and that Forrest was responsible for the slaughter.
lawman

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#1785 Jul 29, 2008
Still Want the Confederate Tag

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#1787 Dec 29, 2012
Wow_here we go again wrote:
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LOL now this guys is funny.
Thanks, Wow. Great to be appreciated by intelligent life forms.(-:
Have a Great New Year!
Peace

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#1789 Jul 7, 2013
Woodlands Parkway wrote:
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Try watching "The Help." Those women were awful and there's still some who have help in their homes and the help is not white. They still act like Skeeter's mom and think they can. Of course, most of them are late sixties or in their seventies.
Only the retarded get their "history" from movies, Fatgirl. You need "help" to get your 1000 lb ass out of your reinforced bed.
5000 A month

Spring, TX

#1791 Aug 13, 2013
I'm not as old as you, Silly and not as ill. History never really interested me in school. Movies are not always accurate, but they give you the flavor of an era. It also gives you context. When someone says Jackson, Mississippi, after seeing that movie, it gives you the flavor of how racist it was back then. The women in that movie were, for the most part, disgusting. Which one would you have been? You would have probably been like Skeeter's mother. Disgusting.
Ronnin

Birmingham, AL

#1792 Jun 29, 2015
Dave wrote:
For those of you who are sure that the Confederacy was all about States Rights, please read the following quote from the VP of the Confederacy, Alex Stephens - who would know a whole lot more about it than anyone alive today.(And certainly more than racist bloggers). "Our new government... rests upon a great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man: that - slavery - subornation to the superior race - is his natural and normal condition."
Though Lincoln argued that the founding fathers’ phrase “All men are created equal” applied to blacks and whites alike, this did not mean he thought they should have the same social and political rights. His views became clear during an 1858 series of debates with his opponent in the Illinois race for U.S. Senate, Stephen Douglas, who had accused him of supporting “negro equality.” In their fourth debate, at Charleston, Illinois, on September 18, 1858, Lincoln made his position clear.“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races,” he began, going on to say that he opposed blacks having the right to vote, to serve on juries, to hold office and to intermarry with whites. What he did believe was that, like all men, blacks had the right to improve their condition in society and to enjoy the fruits of their labor. In this way they were equal to white men, and for this reason slavery was inherently unjust.

August of 1862, Lincoln hosted a delegation of freed slaves at the White House in the hopes of getting their support on a plan for colonization in Central America. Given the “differences” between the two races and the hostile attitudes of whites towards blacks, Lincoln argued, it would be “better for us both, therefore, to be separated.” Lincoln’s support of colonization provoked great anger among black leaders and abolitionists, who argued that African-Americans were as much natives of the country as whites, and thus deserved the same rights. After he issued the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, Lincoln never again publicly mentioned colonization, and a mention of it in an earlier draft was deleted by the time the final proclamation was issued in January 1863.

4. Emancipation was a military policy.
As much as he hated the institution of slavery, Lincoln didn’t see the Civil War as a struggle to free the nation’s 4 million slaves from bondage. Emancipation, when it came, would have to be gradual, and the important thing to do was to prevent the Southern rebellion from severing the Union permanently in two. But as the Civil War entered its second summer in 1862, thousands of slaves had fled Southern plantations to Union lines, and the federal government didn’t have a clear policy on how to deal with them. Emancipation, Lincoln saw, would further undermine the Confederacy while providing the Union with a new source of manpower to crush the rebellion.

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