Put brakes on proposal for a Confederate tag

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Bob

United States

#1 Feb 29, 2008
Sorry, George, but this demonstrates your complete ignorance. The Civil War was about state's rights - the right of a state to govern itself. Yes, slavery was the emotional trigger, but the root cause was much deeper and fundamental. You're probably not aware that Senators used to be appointed by the States (not elected by the general public as the Representatives are) - this was the Founding Fathers plan to ensure that the States had a voice in federal decisions. Please peek out of your bubble-wrap.
Go Home

Orlando, FL

#2 Feb 29, 2008
George, As the SOUTHERN saying goes, You don't have a dog in this hunt!!!!!
Go Back Home........
Huh

Orlando, FL

#3 Feb 29, 2008
Putting the Confederate flag on the same level as the Nazi swastika? Mr. Diaz, you should apologize.

In the interest of full disclosure; are you a liberal? Do you favor free speech? Were you born in the US or what generation are you?

I for one am tired about the PC liberal agenda. If it's not for them then it's bad. Suck it up.
Dave

Pompano Beach, FL

#6 Feb 29, 2008
For those of you who are sure that the Confederacy was all about States Rights, please read the following quote from the VP of the Confederacy, Alex Stephens - who would know a whole lot more about it than anyone alive today.(And certainly more than racist bloggers). "Our new government... rests upon a great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man: that - slavery - subornation to the superior race - is his natural and normal condition."
GatorBob

United States

#8 Feb 29, 2008
Bob wrote:
Sorry, George, but this demonstrates your complete ignorance. The Civil War was about state's rights - the right of a state to govern itself. Yes, slavery was the emotional trigger, but the root cause was much deeper and fundamental. You're probably not aware that Senators used to be appointed by the States (not elected by the general public as the Representatives are)- this was the Founding Fathers plan to ensure that the States had a voice in federal decisions. Please peek out of your bubble-wrap.
Exactly right...but to expect a Sentinel writer to understand or admit that is asking a little too much. It's much easier to cry racism, sells more papers (they still think). Wouldn't it be great if, as a group, we could tell other groups what they can and cannot do, wear or say because it "offends" some of us...even if it is factually baseless? I'd first start with those guys driving around with flags of their country-of-origin hanging from their rear view mirror. I say immediately send them back to that country...one way ticket.
Hey George

Essington, PA

#9 Feb 29, 2008
But it's Ok and not offensive to see every Hispanic immigrant in Orlando/Kissimmee driving around with the Puerto Rican or some other flag somewhere on their cars, blarring Latin music and spitting in the face of America, it's history, it's language, and it's culture. Funny how the hypocrisy works in this Country. It's a one way street for white folks, but everybody else can do what they want.
Kristen

Orlando, FL

#10 Feb 29, 2008
I THINK, IF WE CAN HAVE A TAG WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING JR ON IT, THEN WE SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONFEDERATE TAG.. SOME PEOPLE JUST NEED TO GET A REAL HISTORY LESSON. LIKE YOU GUYS SAID IN THE ARTICLE, ITS PART OF HISTORY IF WE LIKE IT OR NOT.. WE DIDN'T CLAIM RASICM AND ALL THAT WHEN THEY MADE THE MARTIN LUTHER KING TAG...
overit

Ormond Beach, FL

#11 Feb 29, 2008
you diaz are the pinhead of the day. You have shown your ignorance of AMERICAN history, it was called the civil war, the war between the states to clarify. Compare this event to the German swastika? Did your parents fight for anything? Did you? You are in the greatest country in the world because of the blood of others. Oh to hear how the confederate symbol smacks of racism is as shallow as the people who invoke it. Do you ever read the Bible or carry one? You then are a hypocrite because Jesus Christ himself did not condem slavery but instructed the slaves on how to serve their masters and vice versa. Its a fact get over it. By the way I am was born and raised in the North, but I have known real southern people who all lost relatives in that conflict and it was more than just slavery, and if you study the plantation history you will find that many of the slaves did not want to leave their plantations after the war because they were treated so well, yes those same slaves sold to the human traffikers by the BLACK human traffikers. I will buy one.
Chester DeGrasse

Melbourne, FL

#13 Feb 29, 2008
Like it or not, it symbolizes slavery and for that reason it is a morally bankrupt idea.
BBB

Cincinnati, OH

#17 Feb 29, 2008
Dave wrote:
For those of you who are sure that the Confederacy was all about States Rights, please read the following quote from the VP of the Confederacy, Alex Stephens - who would know a whole lot more about it than anyone alive today.(And certainly more than racist bloggers). "Our new government... rests upon a great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man: that - slavery - subornation to the superior race - is his natural and normal condition."
DAve,

Maybe you should research Abe Lincoln and HIS policies a little more

"In his new book, Forced Into Glory: Abraham Lincoln's White Dream, black American author, Lerone Bennett, presents historic evidence supporting the theory that Abraham Lincoln was, in fact, a devoted racist harboring a life-long desire to see all black Americans deported to Africa.

Bennett suggests that as a young politician in Illinois, Lincoln regularly used racial slurs in speeches, told racial jokes to his black servants, and vocally opposed any new laws that would have bettered the lives of black Americans.

Key to Bennett's thesis is the 1863 Emancipation Proclamation which, Bennett argues, Lincoln was forced into issuing by the powerful abolitionist wing of his own party. Bennett asserts that Lincoln carefully worded the document to apply only to the rebel Southern states, which were not under Union control at the time, thus resulting in an Emancipation Proclamation that did not in itself free a single slave."

I could go on and on, but I think the point is made.
BBB

Cincinnati, OH

#18 Feb 29, 2008
Chester DeGrasse wrote:
Like it or not, it symbolizes slavery and for that reason it is a morally bankrupt idea.
So does the entire continent of Africa. I vote that we now abolish all references to "Africa", "African Americans" or anything to do with that obviously morally bankrupt continent. Imagine, selling your brethren into slavery. The horror.

Nonsense breeds more nonsense.
CRUSTY

Sanford, FL

#19 Feb 29, 2008
I wonder what happened to all those "ARRIVE STONED" tags that folks displayed as a front licence plate?
Harry Coverston

Orlando, FL

#20 Feb 29, 2008
"But another pertinent question is this: Why does our state allow so much influence-peddling on our roadways?"

Oh, that's an easy one, George. We live in a socially irresponsible state. We don't pay taxes sufficient to cover the cost of the services we demand. So we make up the money by pimping our citizens any way we can - fines for being in automobile crashes whether or not we were at fault, tolls to be able to actually drive across town in less than two hours, and extra charges for those specialty tags whose causes our Republican frat boy legislature will approve. Why would the romanticization of a slave-holding plantation era in which the ancestors of the same folks proposing this boneheaded tag lived in privilege at the expense of those at the bottom of the economic pyramid surprise you? It's the same principle their successors operate under today - the privilege of those at the top is maintained by the exploitation of those at the bottom - the working poor on whom the fees, the fines and the service charges fall most heavily.
Another Florida Native

United States

#21 Feb 29, 2008
George, I hope you have your flame suit on. You won't even feel todays chilly weather.
As a Native Southerner whose roots go back to 1610 I investigated the Sons of the Confederacy.My mother had urged me to join, to 'celebrate my heritage.'
I did not join.
For the same reason I oppose the license plate.
Its all about a small group of VERY vocal peoples attempt to legitimize racism.
The 'heritage' and all the rest is, sadly, just a smoke screen.
[Native dons flame suit]
Franklin Ratliff

Denver, CO

#22 Feb 29, 2008
Bob wrote:
Sorry, George, but this demonstrates your complete ignorance. The Civil War was about state's rights - the right of a state to govern itself. Yes, slavery was the emotional trigger, but the root cause was much deeper and fundamental. You're probably not aware that Senators used to be appointed by the States (not elected by the general public as the Representatives are)- this was the Founding Fathers plan to ensure that the States had a voice in federal decisions. Please peek out of your bubble-wrap.
Yes, the state's right to allow rich white plantation owners to force blacks to pick cotton without getting paid.
former native

Richmond, VA

#24 Feb 29, 2008
I am deeply offended by P.R. flags at every turn in Orlando, offended by the fact that people from other lands can have such clout over Americans, and our history. Like it or not, the Stars and Bars have a signifigant position in American history and the formation of this country. What can be said about all the Latin flags that flood our streets and communities.
Mr. DIAZ, allow proud Southern Americans to honor their history. We as a country are forced to endure the Latin flags, parades and spanish language that have NO real historical value to this country and only serve to divide it.
Franklin Ratliff

Denver, CO

#25 Feb 29, 2008
Pissed off citizen wrote:
Mr Diaz, the Confederate flag they want to use was a battle flag. As far as it being a symbol of racism, the ships that mainly brought the slaves to America were flying U.S. and British flags. The rebel flag was taken as a symbol by the KKK and other white supremacist groups, as the Swastika was inverted and adopted by the Nazis. It was a symbol of peace and harmony. Because those of us from the South are proud of our heritage, do NOT make the general assumption that we are bigots and racists. It is a Heritage, not hate issue. Why is it different than Puerto Ricans putting stickers of their flag on their vehicles. They're American citizens, but mainly what you see is the Puerto Rican flag, not the U.S.
The Puerto Rican flag was never flown by a secessionist army raised by rich white traitors so they could continue to force blacks to pick cotton for no pay.
I Hate PRs

AOL

#26 Feb 29, 2008
George thinks we shouldn't be
allowed the confederate flag
plate which after all would be
a freedom of expression, but it
is ok for his thug friends from
San Juan, Mexico and San Salvador
to proudly display gang affiliation
tattoos for all to see. A little
contradictory, hmm?
Bill

Shreveport, LA

#27 Feb 29, 2008
If the issue was for putting the Puerto Rican flag on a plate you would no doubt support it 100%. It seems to me you might be a racist or just very closed minded.
What's good for one group should also be good for another group. If someone wants to purchase a Confederate plate then let them. If it offends you so be it. The Choose Life plate offends me. If you want to restrict plates then maybe the Martin Luther King plate should also be removed. I personally feel that any plate that deals with political issues should be removed but we know that's not going to happen.
otownnole

Orlando, FL

#28 Feb 29, 2008
Is this the same guy who asked me to "Thank an immigrant for a job Americans won't do"?

I will choose not to "Thank any illegal" and he can choose not to buy this license plate.

95% of the slaves were owned by less than 5% of the population. Has anyone here every taken a college level history class?

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