Men in Sonic shooting from Smithfield, Newport News

Full story: Hampton Roads Daily Press

Seaborne and James T. Outlaw Jr., 20, of Smithfield were in a white Honda Accord that screeched into the parking lot of the drive-in restaurant shortly after 5 p.m. on Carrollton Boulevard, said county ...

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A lot of students from Smithfield High have said numberous times on this post that they all knew that Tyrone dealt drugs at school and that he carried a gun on to school property. I'm extremely concerned that the student body knew this while the administration either did not know or chose to ignore it. Looks like we need to take a good look at whose running the school.
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Two wolves - an interesting way of looking at things:
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said,' My son, the battle is between two ' wolves ' inside us all.

One is Evil.- It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

The other is Good.- It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.'

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather:' Which wolf wins?'

The old Cherokee simply replied,' The one you feed.'

My point is - It's good vs evil. Make the correct decisions and we wouldn't be having this debate!
Saxon Gaelic

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Jul 12, 2008
 
Cherokee Nation wrote:
Two wolves - an interesting way of looking at things:
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said,' My son, the battle is between two ' wolves ' inside us all.
One is Evil.- It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good.- It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.'
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather:' Which wolf wins?'
The old Cherokee simply replied,' The one you feed.'
My point is - It's good vs evil. Make the correct decisions and we wouldn't be having this debate!
One of the best posts I have seen to date
:Godspeed there Cherokee:

From a Mohawk/Gaelic
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#141
Jul 12, 2008
 
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Can we not teach these youths some gun control so they can make better shots, and then us taxpayers won't be geting the bill to treat these animals for there injurys so they can just do it again.
Not to mention the upkeep it would take to feed these b-st-rds not IF but WHEN they go to jail
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Jul 12, 2008
 
whatever wrote:
A lot of students from Smithfield High have said numberous times on this post that they all knew that Tyrone dealt drugs at school and that he carried a gun on to school property. I'm extremely concerned that the student body knew this while the administration either did not know or chose to ignore it. Looks like we need to take a good look at whose running the school.
If you wanna play the blame game blame it on the students. "Whatever" I don't know if you're "in the know" on how things work in today's society especially regarding todays youth but there's an unwritten no-snitching policy. Everynow and then some brave kid does come forward and report things such as guns in lockers but for every one reported ten slip by.
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#143
Jul 13, 2008
 
Sold drugs, had a gun at all times, fathered two kids by the age of 18.

What a piece of work.
The world is a safer place today. The fact that any politician would praise this kid is outrageous.
Everyone knew what he was doing including the family. Scared so many kids in school with threats with that gun! The only people he didn't scare were his close friends and they were dweebs too.
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#144
Jul 13, 2008
 
No kid was willing to snitch at school.
It does NOT work that way. Ask T's football buddies about the quality of his crack!
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Manny Fresh wrote:
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If you wanna play the blame game blame it on the students. "Whatever" I don't know if you're "in the know" on how things work in today's society especially regarding todays youth but there's an unwritten no-snitching policy. Everynow and then some brave kid does come forward and report things such as guns in lockers but for every one reported ten slip by.
As you put it "I am in the know" since I work in a high school setting. Our administrators, staff and especially teachers make it their business to know what is going on when it concerns the safety of our students. It sounds to me that the administrators at Smithfield High have a don't ask don't tell policy in place. You always hear what is going on whether rumored or not but at a caring school the administrative team follows up on everything.
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Jul 15, 2008
 
eyewitness wrote:
I'm still pretty shaken up about what happened. My son(16) and his girlfriend(15)and myself wanted a ice cream and we almost paid for it with our lives!! I saw two punks fighting over a semi-automatic gun and yelled to get down. Then a array of gun fire broke out. On the floor of my car I repeadly tried to call 911 only to get a recording!!! Nobody knows what motivated this because it was probally Nothing!!! Are the days of meeting on the playground for a fist fight over? Cuz they looked like kids to me!!!
Just glad that you were quick to act and that your Family is Safe. Wait Family? Yep that's what those gunslingers didn't have that you did... FAMILY!
Again glad your family had the bond and you folks are alright.
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Jul 16, 2008
 
Cherokee Nation wrote:
Two wolves - an interesting way of looking at things:
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said,' My son, the battle is between two ' wolves ' inside us all.
One is Evil.- It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good.- It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.'
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather:' Which wolf wins?'
The old Cherokee simply replied,' The one you feed.'
My point is - It's good vs evil. Make the correct decisions and we wouldn't be having this debate!
I love the story! It is so simple and yet profoundly deep. Thank you.
Cherokee Nation

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#148
Jul 16, 2008
 
Thanks Peste....very deep musing, speaks volumes in only a few words.
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#149
Jul 24, 2008
 
well in my opinion there should never had a gun anyway i mean we have enough stupid idiots hurting innocent people i don't know why people fight over
drugs i mean really is it worth your life or some body else's i mean i wish people would realize how much life is so valuable no one should have gotten shot over little bit of pot now family and friend have to suffer just because of drugs and when you think about it is it crazy how fragile one life can be i wish people would grow up and start realizing other people feelings and loved ones
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#150
Jul 24, 2008
 
Native Americans have much wisdom.
Cherokee Nation wrote:
Two wolves - an interesting way of looking at things:
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said,' My son, the battle is between two ' wolves ' inside us all.
One is Evil.- It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good.- It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.'
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather:' Which wolf wins?'
The old Cherokee simply replied,' The one you feed.'
My point is - It's good vs evil. Make the correct decisions and we wouldn't be having this debate!
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Give me a friggin break. A mistake is breaking out a house window or having a car accident. Carrying an ILLEGAL weapon and then firing for a stupid reason is MURDER. Geez......
We all need prayer...
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#152
Aug 17, 2008
 
It's hard to elieve that that are so many people in this world who actually enjoy other peoples misery. I've known Tee since I moved to Smithfield, he's sat in my living room on numerous occasions, and I must say, he's definately never been rude much less brung guns and drugs. As I sit here daily watching his oldesr daughter asking where her daddy is, saying how much she misses her daddy, and watch his grieving girlfriend struggle having just become a single parent I wonder how anyone could say such ugly things. He was a provider with a REAL job, one in which you pay state taxes just like everyone else. He was so loving that at the funeral above all people his poor daughter who didn't understand why he was "sleeping on that big pillow" wanted to be with him and only him. She has a picture of him she carries around daily and looks at for hours. His youngest daughter will never know him over such sensless violence. However, you people never stop to think about that, why? simply because you enjoy the drama. You think Momma Bridget and his brother G don't look at these things? That his girlfriend doesn't look at these things? Your very wrong. Stop being so hateful and let him rest in peace and let his family try to move on. As for JT he too is grieving, not to mention that he didn't even get to go to his best friends funeral. Now he is being accused of shooting him? I was not there, but I do know people very close to me who have seen the entire thing, and spoke to JT and none of them say that JT shot Tee, and if for some reason one of his bullets mysteriously shot him, he most definately do it on purpose. I am praying that JT beat the bulk of his charges and comes home soon, becuase his child needs him. What good is it that both familes children grow up without a father?
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#153
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Cherokee Nation wrote:
Two wolves - an interesting way of looking at things:
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said,' My son, the battle is between two ' wolves ' inside us all.
One is Evil.- It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good.- It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.'
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather:' Which wolf wins?'
The old Cherokee simply replied,' The one you feed.'
My point is - It's good vs evil. Make the correct decisions and we wouldn't be having this debate!
Awesome.....Thanks for sharing!!!
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#154
Aug 17, 2008
 
their parents should be arrested too and fully investigated about what was going on in the homes. If they had guilty knowledge of guns and all they should be tried. Either way an example that the parents pay too needs to be made to the "community"
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#155
Aug 18, 2008
 
stupid is as stupid does....and thanks Cherokee. My grandfather, also Cherokee, told that story to me when i was little and i memorized it. It was a warm reminder to do the right thing.
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#156
Aug 18, 2008
 
Still more young male minority violence. It will not end until we decide finally to stop it. It is in their blood. We cannot buy peace. We cannot educate it out of them. We cannot beg it out of them. We cannot breed it out of them. How then, short of restoring vigilante order, can we stop it?
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#157
Aug 18, 2008
 
Do you get fries with that shooting?

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