Men in Sonic shooting from Smithfield...

Men in Sonic shooting from Smithfield, Newport News

There are 159 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Jul 5, 2008, titled Men in Sonic shooting from Smithfield, Newport News. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

Seaborne and James T. Outlaw Jr., 20, of Smithfield were in a white Honda Accord that screeched into the parking lot of the drive-in restaurant shortly after 5 p.m. on Carrollton Boulevard, said county ...

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P Diddy

Hampton, VA

#22 Jul 5, 2008
PAINTER AGAIN wrote:
<quoted text>hey dude,,all of the guys running around here with guns are kids. all of them are angry. all of them blame someone else for their life going the way it has. all of them blame their parents. and guess what? they are right, because a lot of their troubles start at home way before they reach a age to legally buy anybody's gun. a lot of parents don't take the time to teach their kids morals at an early age.stuff that stick with them.stuff that make them know right from wrong in a right way of actually knowing what right from wrong really mean. these parents are too busy trying to survive and make it. no excuse! but these guys with the guns started out long time ago when they were young. parents have a lot to do with the way their kids turn out.,,,,,,,,sorry!
You left out the part about having outstanding role models, like all the gangsta' rappers who glamorize this stuff.

“Stop the Violence! End Racism!”

Since: Apr 08

Close the Loopholes!

#23 Jul 5, 2008
People, people, people... These are teenagers that were involved in this situation. Studies have shown the frontal lobe of a teenager's brain is not well-developed and they can not behave like adults.

Please don't compare a teenager's behavior to one of an adult. We need to place some focus on the true cause of violence: where the teenager shooter obtain his gun.

Easy access to handguns and assult weapons are the root cause of violence!
Bryce Lathan

Newport News, VA

#24 Jul 5, 2008
HG Robinson wrote:
People, people, people... These are teenagers that were involved in this situation. Studies have shown the frontal lobe of a teenager's brain is not well-developed and they can not behave like adults.
Please don't compare a teenager's behavior to one of an adult. We need to place some focus on the true cause of violence: where the teenager shooter obtain his gun.
Easy access to handguns and assult weapons are the root cause of violence!
So you must be about 13 or 14. Right?
Dum Ass Prodect of HCS

Newport News, VA

#25 Jul 5, 2008
HG Robinson wrote:
People, people, people... These are teenagers that were involved in this situation. Studies have shown the frontal lobe of a teenager's brain is not well-developed and they can not behave like adults.
Please don't compare a teenager's behavior to one of an adult. We need to place some focus on the true cause of violence: where the teenager shooter obtain his gun.
Easy access to handguns and assult weapons are the root cause of violence!
Thug mentality and poor breeding is the cause of this. Charge them all as adults and get them off the street before they hurt someone that matters.
jeff

Newport News, VA

#26 Jul 5, 2008
Title Should read: "Little Boys with Big Guns in Sonic shooting from Smithfield, Newport News"
Quagmire

Saluda, VA

#27 Jul 5, 2008
It looks HG as if your posse has already started to bring the ghetto lifestyle to a nice, small community. I still don't understand why we celebrate Martin Luther King day when the black community embraces little or no part of what he was saying. I wonder if they actually know what MLK stood for in the first place.
holiveras

West Linn, OR

#28 Jul 5, 2008
Bryce Lathan wrote:
<quoted text>
So you must be about 13 or 14. Right?
Too funny!

“Stop the Violence! End Racism!”

Since: Apr 08

Close the Loopholes!

#29 Jul 5, 2008
Quagmire wrote:
It looks HG as if your posse has already started to bring the ghetto lifestyle to a nice, small community. I still don't understand why we celebrate Martin Luther King day when the black community embraces little or no part of what he was saying. I wonder if they actually know what MLK stood for in the first place.
Just more of the same old racist attitude...

First - I do not have a "posse". Because of easy access to firearms, violence has spread into Isle of White County, VA. Nothing to do with me, all to do with guns in the hands of children.

Second - This has nothing to do with MLK. For the record, the Black community does embrance MLK. Too bad you know nothing about him; he would probably tell you to stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.
holiveras

West Linn, OR

#30 Jul 5, 2008
HpG Robinson wrote:
<quoted text>
Just more of the same old racist attitude...
First - I do not have a "posse". Because of easy access to firearms, violence has spread into Isle of White County, VA. Nothing to do with me, all to do with guns in the hands of children.
Second - This has nothing to do with MLK. For the record, the Black community does embrance MLK. Too bad you know nothing about him; he would probably tell you to stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.
MLK would be rolling in his grave at the behavior/morals/ethics (or lack thereof) of these gangbangers and their "parents".
PAINTER AGAIN

Newport News, VA

#31 Jul 5, 2008
HG Robinson wrote:
<quoted text>
Just more of the same old racist attitude...
First - I do not have a "posse". Because of easy access to firearms, violence has spread into Isle of White County, VA. Nothing to do with me, all to do with guns in the hands of children.
Second - This has nothing to do with MLK. For the record, the Black community does embrance MLK. Too bad you know nothing about him; he would probably tell you to stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.
HEY,,WELL SAID,,HG!
Quagmire

Saluda, VA

#32 Jul 5, 2008
HG Robinson wrote:
<quoted text>
Just more of the same old racist attitude...
First - I do not have a "posse". Because of easy access to firearms, violence has spread into Isle of White County, VA. Nothing to do with me, all to do with guns in the hands of children.
Second - This has nothing to do with MLK. For the record, the Black community does embrance MLK. Too bad you know nothing about him; he would probably tell you to stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.
I don't recall MLK stating "violence" as the way to solve your problems. I am part of the solution, I obey the law, pay my taxes, and vote GOP. What more could you ask for?
the truth

Hampton, VA

#33 Jul 5, 2008
HG Robinson wrote:
<quoted text>
stop being part of the problem and start being part of the solution.
Herein lies the real problem... Since I didn't give the guy drugs to sell, didn't buy drugs from him, didn't arm him, and didn't tell him to shoot someone, how am I part of the problem? Obviously, I'm not a part of it! So why should I help find a solution to a problem that I didn't have any part of to begin with?
lexe3

United States

#35 Jul 5, 2008
You people shud not make rude comments about these boys..one was killed and didnt do anything to anyone he was friends with everybody..so shut up and get a life
Quagmire

Saluda, VA

#36 Jul 5, 2008
lexe3 wrote:
You people shud not make rude comments about these boys..one was killed and didnt do anything to anyone he was friends with everybody..so shut up and get a life
Ebonics anyone?

“Stop the Violence! End Racism!”

Since: Apr 08

Close the Loopholes!

#37 Jul 5, 2008
the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Herein lies the real problem... Since I didn't give the guy drugs to sell, didn't buy drugs from him, didn't arm him, and didn't tell him to shoot someone, how am I part of the problem? Obviously, I'm not a part of it! So why should I help find a solution to a problem that I didn't have any part of to begin with?
So "the truth" I guess your sttitude is simply don't blame me, I'm white huh?

No one said you personally are to blame. But society is. We have made it very easy for anyone - even kids - to obtain handguns and ammo.

We have turned our backs on an entire generation of children, we are standing by saying "don't blame me" as more and more kids die each night.

We can stop this senseless violence if more people would start action to control guns, better educate our children, and become more involved in the local community.
the truth

Hampton, VA

#38 Jul 5, 2008
HG Robinson wrote:
<quoted text>
So "the truth" I guess your sttitude is simply don't blame me, I'm white huh?
No one said you personally are to blame. But society is. We have made it very easy for anyone - even kids - to obtain handguns and ammo.
We have turned our backs on an entire generation of children, we are standing by saying "don't blame me" as more and more kids die each night.
We can stop this senseless violence if more people would start action to control guns, better educate our children, and become more involved in the local community.
My attitude is that I didn't create the problem. Education starts at home and I'm making sure that my own children are being raised to be accountable for their own actions. My race is not the issue.

Children have had access to firearms for hundreds of years. Only now are they using them to shoot each other. Why is it that all of a sudden we need to control guns now?

What do you honestly think I could do in the local community to stop this violence? Do you seriously think that a 35 year-old white woman living in suburbia could stop the inner-city thugs from shooting other thugs? Get a grip! In fact, the only thing I could possibly do to help the situation would be to arm myself to protect my children from the likes of these guys.

So, yes, it's not my problem and I refuse to spend my valuable time solving someone else's.
holiveras

West Linn, OR

#39 Jul 5, 2008
the truth wrote:
<quoted text>
My attitude is that I didn't create the problem. Education starts at home and I'm making sure that my own children are being raised to be accountable for their own actions. My race is not the issue.
Children have had access to firearms for hundreds of years. Only now are they using them to shoot each other. Why is it that all of a sudden we need to control guns now?
What do you honestly think I could do in the local community to stop this violence? Do you seriously think that a 35 year-old white woman living in suburbia could stop the inner-city thugs from shooting other thugs? Get a grip! In fact, the only thing I could possibly do to help the situation would be to arm myself to protect my children from the likes of these guys.
So, yes, it's not my problem and I refuse to spend my valuable time solving someone else's.
Great post!
jeff

Newport News, VA

#40 Jul 5, 2008
Sorry for calling them boys, how about losers.
Smithfield Teacher

Carrollton, VA

#41 Jul 5, 2008
The problem with "The Truth"'s post is that good kids who know better do bad things. It's possible that your child and mine has or will buy pot from a "thug" one day in the high school parking lot. I disagree that a "35 year-old white woman living in suburbia" cannot or should not be expected to do anything. You are a part of the community that this is occuring in. Continue to teach and care for your own children, but get to know others too. Volunteer at their school, attend the local high school sporting events. See and be seen. Please don't write off Tyrone and the others as not your problem, because our children go to school with them everyday.
the truth

Hampton, VA

#42 Jul 5, 2008
Smithfield Teacher wrote:
The problem with "The Truth"'s post is that good kids who know better do bad things. It's possible that your child and mine has or will buy pot from a "thug" one day in the high school parking lot. I disagree that a "35 year-old white woman living in suburbia" cannot or should not be expected to do anything. You are a part of the community that this is occuring in. Continue to teach and care for your own children, but get to know others too. Volunteer at their school, attend the local high school sporting events. See and be seen. Please don't write off Tyrone and the others as not your problem, because our children go to school with them everyday.
If my children ever bought drugs from a guy like this, the situation would be handled accordingly. In addition, if my children went to school with a thug who brought onto the school premises (as has been mentioned in this thread), they would be removed from school immediately and either homeschooled or enrolled in a safer alternative. I certainly wouldn't be spending my time on a message board proclaiming that everyone should be a "solution" to our private family matter. I do volunteer at my children's school, but HG appears to be asking for a whole lot more than that.

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