Ask the Governor: Can felons regain the right to own guns?

Full story: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Q: Why is it that the state of Florida despises felons so much that, even if you have never committed a violent act against anyone, your Second Amendment rights of being able to bear arms are never restored? We ...
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gunhappy

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I think any felony should keep you from having a concealed weapons permit for at least 10 years.

Violent or any knid of act against a person should be no CWP for life.
forget about it

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A felon is a felon.....Police and innocent victims are being killed because of the right to bear arms. Someone tell me what an AR15, M16, AK 47, MP5 and so forth were intended to be used for.....War is the answer.
I admit there is a war on our streets between the police and law abiding citizens and the criminal element. We cant win unless our legislators help us. The Rifle Association is a great orginization but their money fuels the legislation that allows the criminals/felons to get their hands on these murderous weapons.
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Hey...I have an idea. Don't commit a felony in the first place. Then you don't have to worry about your rights. Voting is one thing...owning a firearm is another. If you lack the judgement and personal ethics to keep yourself from commiting a felony how can you be trusted with deadly force? Anyway, how many criminals get a gun permit in the first place?
HEY MIDDLE AMERICA

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gunhappy wrote:
I think any felony should keep you from having a concealed weapons permit for at least 10 years.
Violent or any knid of act against a person should be no CWP for life.
and they should not be allowed to vote ever again...or own property
Lawman

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Does not matter what the State says, once you are a felon the Federal government can put you away for 5 to 15 years just for having a bullet. Look it up 18 USC 924. Gov forgot to tell the people about that small gotcha.
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I see a long line of criminals coming forward to have their fingerprints taken and wait to get a concealed weapons permit.....Not!
whatsup

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its a Federal issue not a state DUH
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forget about it wrote:
A felon is a felon.....Police and innocent victims are being killed because of the right to bear arms. Someone tell me what an AR15, M16, AK 47, MP5 and so forth were intended to be used for.....War is the answer.
I admit there is a war on our streets between the police and law abiding citizens and the criminal element. We cant win unless our legislators help us. The Rifle Association is a great orginization but their money fuels the legislation that allows the criminals/felons to get their hands on these murderous weapons.
Your comments about the NRA are very wrong and misleading. The NRA is adamant about protecting 2nd Ammendment rights and is just as adamant about applying exiting laws to prevent crimes AND to ensure that weapons are securely stored, safe from theft and appropriation by minors in families.

The NRA does more for practical and sensible firearms safety and security in one day that the media or the gun-grabbers do in a year.

WRT a felon having the right to defend their family, etc.- we are not talking about a conceal carry permit here, just a right to possess - there are processes to restore rights of full citizenship.

I believe that there should be some process but that it should be arduous, not a rubber stamp. The same people that want to grab your guns want to restore voting rights immediately - odd, isn't it? But not surprising. The left stops at nothing to recruit new members to its proletariat.
Hazmat

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Let 'em vote ... but a license to carry a concealed weapon is a right which should be reserved for law abiding citizens.
Jim Dandy

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Einstein is so right.
Hazmat

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Einstein,[by the way didn't Albert admit that he wasn't a genius?]

The 2nd Amendment was adopted in a time when weapons were as sophisticated as a single shot musket. I seriously doubt that any of the framers of the Constitution perceived of the advance of gun technology to the point it is today.

I have a carry permit. I also can't
conceive of any logical reason why I or any other citizen needs an AK47 or any of the myriad of other weapons of war.
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Lot of nut cases with guns besides
felons.I am paying somone to take firing pins out of guns and clean
them when I really would like to melt them.This is due to strokes and not
to felonies.
He Said What

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So, lets understand this.
If a person is convicted of causing $1,000.01 damage to another persons car by malicious mischief they are a felon and should not have the right to vote or have a CCW permit.
But if that same person is convicted of only $999.99 damage to another persons car by malicious mischief they are guilty of a misdemeanor and can vote and have a CCW ?
Just putting in my $0.02.
HEY MIDDLE AMERICA

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Hazmat wrote:
Einstein,[by the way didn't Albert admit that he wasn't a genius?]
The 2nd Amendment was adopted in a time when weapons were as sophisticated as a single shot musket. I seriously doubt that any of the framers of the Constitution perceived of the advance of gun technology to the point it is today.
I have a carry permit. I also can't
conceive of any logical reason why I or any other citizen needs an AK47 or any of the myriad of other weapons of war.
so by your logic the first amendment doesn't apply to the internet or the telephone...but your ilk never never says that...but more important is when that argument was presented to a court the court basically "laughed it out of court" and called it absurd
Einstein

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Hazmat wrote:
Einstein,[by the way didn't Albert admit that he wasn't a genius?]
The 2nd Amendment was adopted in a time when weapons were as sophisticated as a single shot musket. I seriously doubt that any of the framers of the Constitution perceived of the advance of gun technology to the point it is today.
I have a carry permit. I also can't
conceive of any logical reason why I or any other citizen needs an AK47 or any of the myriad of other weapons of war.
I don't recall claiming I was a genius, thank you for the comment :-)

WRT your comment, you are falling into the same trap that so many have tumbled into. If you want to understand what the founding fathers wanted to construct, you have to not only read the Constitution and related documents of the time, you also have to understand that it was written in a version of English that was common to public administration and law in the 18th Century, about three generations of evolution away - and I don't mean 20-year generations hip-talk, I mean linguistic generational evolution. An example is "well regulated militia.", a phrase that is completely misinterpreted today.

That being said, the framers did not place restrictions, they did not say anything about the length of a weapon, whether it could be concealed or not, whether it could be multi-shot (which was in existance in small and lethal form back then) or not. They merely stated that the right to self defense and right to keep and bear arms was a self-evident truth and God-given right which they, by stating so in the Constitution, placed in a position above that which was to follow, man-made rules and regulations.

It wasn't all about self-protection, which was just as concern then as today. The framers were very fearful, and rightfully so, that there it would one day come to pass that there would be a government that would try to re-enslave the US citizens and their clear desire was that people would be armed to the degree that they could successfully topple such a tyrannical regime and regain their freedom.

If you don't think that this latter point is a concern today, then take another look around you. Never, since the European powers were driven out of this hemisphere in the 19th Century, has there been so much influence as in the last 40+ years; Russian influence has waned while the Chinese and islamic fascists are in ascendence and seriously influencing nations in our hemisphere. With porous, extremely long borders we are open to invasion and, if you beileve many, it has already taken place. Just look at the hispanic gangs and trace their roots - think about the demonstrations that demand the return of the southwest to Mexico ...

The framers were concerned that the citizens would have a fighting chance to both defend themselves and the democracy that they were in the process of winning for us at a horrendous cost that has been forgotten by many today.

If you think that the civilian version of the AK-47 or AR-15 is too much weapon to be in the hands of the good, law-abiding citizen, then look what the gangs are using ... the 2nd Ammendment doesn't protect the rights of hunters, it protects the rights of Americans to defend themselves. The police can't do it and a lot of politicians as well - but they want to take away our right to do so. Go figure.
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what a bunch of hypocrites you all are.You were just lucky not to have gotten caught when YOU were commiting a felony- you would be surprised what some felonies are , that you have commited several times - your no angels
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I'm a gun buff, concealed weapons permit owner, an NRA member for life and a law-abiding taxpaying citizen. Other gun owners may disagree with me, but I think felons should lose their right to own a firearm for life much like they lost the right ot vote. It is the felons who commit heinous crimes (often using guns) that hurt all those legitimate gun owners who have owned firearms for generations and have never once hurt an innocent human being. If only people who are responsible, level-headed and not insane owned firearms, it would help make America a safer place for everyone.
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Felons are supposed to own guns with the serial# filed off and taped up grips, doesn't that guy know anything?
RED BARON

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One other thing for any liberals who want to pipe in, a strong sign of a civilized society is where men and women can own firearms without hurting one another. Once you take that right away, you have offically conceded that America is no longer a civilized society and that we have resorted to treating all US citizens as potential criminals, uneducated, unwashed "masses" who cannot think for themselves and who need to be told how to live their lives. I don't think it is fair that a small minority of criminals, thugs and gangs in this country can ruin the civility of this country by purchasing weapons illegaly and thus slowly stripping away the rights of those who never broke the law and have always respected this country and the people who live here. Using that mentality, we should take away everyone's right to drive a car because criminals use cars to commit crimes and often kill people in the process with their reckless driving.
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truth hurts wrote:
what a bunch of hypocrites you all are.You were just lucky not to have gotten caught when YOU were commiting a felony- you would be surprised what some felonies are , that you have commited several times - your no angels
You must be a felon to make such a ludicrious statement. On the contrary, law-abiding Americans know what is considered a felony. If they don't, they shouldn't be owning a gun. PERIOD. As the famous phrase goes, with power comes responsibility and as a law-abiding gun owner you should be required by law to understand the laws of this country and abide them. If you don't, tough crap. You are a loser or crackpot who shouldn't have a license to drive let alone own a gun.

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