What we think: Stop shielding pit bulls

What we think: Stop shielding pit bulls

There are 1000 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Apr 25, 2009, titled What we think: Stop shielding pit bulls. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

S pike is gone, mauled to death earlier this month by a pit bull on the loose. The little Dachshund was the latest casualty of an out-of-control breed whose irresponsible owners are letting their animals terrorize dogs and people alike.

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Law Abiding

Orlando, FL

#1 Apr 25, 2009
Cleveland, Some counties in Colorado, and many other communities have outlawed the breed. Our lawmakers should get busy protecting the people who elected them.
Jenni

Wilmington, DE

#2 Apr 25, 2009
This is preposterous. You cannot condemm an entire breed because of a handful of irresponsible owners. ANY dog can bite someone or be aggressive... it just doesn't make the front page of the news when a chihuahua bites someone. This is outright discrimination. You probably think that all women are bad drivers... or that all minorities are criminals... or that all Asians are good at math... or that Irish people are alcoholics. Cut me a break. Be a little more responsible and do your homework and get your facts straight before you pass a bunch of garbage like this off as "news." Makes me sick. It's exactly this kind of "news" that creates such mistaken hysteria over pit bulls and actually makes it even MORE desirable for criminals and irresponsible people to want them. Because of a pit bull's strong-willed and dedicated nature and extreme desire to please its owners, when they fall into the wrong hands, it's a disaster. The very same characteristics that make pit bulls loving, amazing and wonderful pets for the RIGHT owners, make them deadly in the hands of the wrong owners who train them to fight and be vicious attack dogs. WAKE UP! It's time to make the laws tougher on the PEOPLE who mistreat this breed. So, yes... the only thing I agree with here is that there is a pit bull problem... but it's the HUMANS who are causing it. Put them in jail and throw away the key.
Kat

United States

#3 Apr 25, 2009
You know, you don't sound like someone who would change their mind... so no point convincing you anything...
But for other that read: banning one breed is a FALSE sense of security. It would be a feel good piece of legislation that would score some politician few cookie points, but that won't achieve absolutely anything. The majority of dogs that attack have owner that could care less. Those owners don't care about their dogs, or the state laws. The only people that get targeted are the people who are not the problem to begin with. Out of 10000 pit bulls only one might bite. Do you really think it is worth regulating those other 9999? Wasting precious animal control resources? And taxpayers money? Isn't it better to make sure that existing laws are being followed? Like leash laws? That alone would eliminate most of the dog bites and maulings. We don't need anymore laws, when those that exist right now are not being enforced.
And I love it when articles like these start siting other places with bans as safe heavens. None of them yet has mentioned the irony: how a girl was mauled to death by two huskies, in Denver, the same week they enforced a pit bull ban and started killing pit bulls one by one. Thank god they banned those pesky pit bulls, eh?
Barrack Obama

United States

#4 Apr 25, 2009
I knew a pitbull once. It was cute as a puppy, but grew up into a killer. They took it out in the woods and shot it before it could hurt someone.
I love dogs, but not pit bulls.
KDawg

Toronto, Canada

#5 Apr 25, 2009
From the CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecreationalSafety/...

[quote]A CDC study on fatal dog bites lists the breeds involved in fatal attacks over 20 years (Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998). It does not identify specific breeds that are most likely to bite or kill, and thus is not appropriate for policy-making decisions related to the topic. Each year, 4.7 million Americans are bitten by dogs. These bites result in approximately 16 fatalities; about 0.0002 percent of the total number of people bitten. These relatively few fatalities offer the only available information about breeds involved in dog bites.

*** There is currently no accurate way to identify the number of dogs of a particular breed, and consequently no measure to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill.[/quote]

From CDC Statement
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/wp-c...

[quote]...
THERE IS NO SCIENTIFICALLY VALID EVIDENCE AND NO REASONABLE
ARGUMENT TO SUPPORT BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION.
“If anyone says one dog is more likely to kill - unless
there's a study out there that I haven't seen - that's not
based on scientific data."
Julie Gilchrist/MD, Centers for Disease Control
Co-Author, JAVMA Special Report[/quote]

'pit bulls'?

Can you identify the APBT?
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Findthebull/...

Florida Info
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/in-y...

From the Fatality Link
[quote]Over the past 44 years (1965-present), there have been 35 fatal dog attacks in Florida, an average of one (1) fatality every 1 to 2 years.
At least eleven (11) different breeds/types* of dogs have been identified in these incidents.[/quote]

Haven`t you heard?

BSL doesn`t work.
It`s costly,ineffective,and no credible experts or Organizations support it as a means to reduce dogs bites.

http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/topic.php...

BSL is being repealed around the World

Italy repeals Ban
http://www.lifeinitaly.com/node/4229
[quote]``The measures adopted in the previous laws had no
scientific foundation. Dangerous breeds do not exist.[/quote]
Netherlands has repealed 25 yr Ban
Did not reduce bites
UK bites have gone up
DDA is under review with calls from the RSCA to repeal it

Denver despite having a Ban
[quote]...has the highest rate of dog-related hospitalizations in the state![/quote]
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/in-y...

Then there`s Miami Dade
http://www.prlog.org/10201937-court-rules-mia...
[quote]Court Rules Miami-Dade County Pit Bull Ban Unenforceable
A court ruled Miami-Dade's 20 year ban on pit bulls was too vague in defining "pit bull" and unfairly let animal control officers basically guess whether a dog is a pit bull.[/quote]

Injury Comparison
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-...

[quote]No breed or type of dog has a particular method of attack or inflicts an exclusive type of injury. Claims that one breed of dog inflicts injuries unlike other breeds have no merit.[/quote]

It`s time for Legislators to stop listening to "expert" opinion and start listening to the Real Experts

A Community Approach to Dog Bite Prevention
http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/pdf/AVMA%...
[quote]....ample evidence found in news coverage [/quote]

Ok that certainly explains your opinion
Thanks for giving the source of your "evidence"

Dog Bites and the Media
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-...
Peter

Toronto, Canada

#6 Apr 25, 2009
Law Abiding wrote:
Cleveland, Some counties in Colorado, and many other communities have outlawed the breed. Our lawmakers should get busy protecting the people who elected them.
Yeah Denver`s ban is working "incredibly well"

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/in-y...

[quote]Denver leads the state with the highest rate of dog-related injury hospitalizations in Colorado[/quote]
Julie

United States

#7 Apr 25, 2009
You mention all of the cities that have banned Pits, but there are many many more that have not, and that is a good thing. You mention alot of attacks by Pits, but not one mention about the Lab that ripped off it's owners face requiring the first face transplant. You never once mention the Husky that attacked and killed the baby last month. Also you left out the Pomeranian that killed a baby in California. And clearly the 2 Labs that mauled a child in Arkansas last month was horrific, oh but those attacks do not count because they were not Pits right?
You can point out all of the bad Pits (that are only bad because of their owners), but you do not mention the MILLIONS of wonderful Pit Bulls living good lives with good people. And, yes lets just totally leave out the fact that Pit Bulls ARE being used in search and rescue and therapy work, and also drug and bomb detection... You know, I feel like if you are going to do a story on this breed, do not make it one sided and tell only the part you want people to hear. Tell the truth. There are way more good Pit Bulls being raised right than in bad homes. How the hell can it be justified to punish thousands of innocent family pets, because YOU fail to get educated on the REAL problem - BAD OWNERS!!!!!!
I am not a pet owner now because my 4 Pit Bulls that I had from puppies have all died from old age. Ranging in age from 12-16 years old. Never once did my dogs bite anyone or anything... They loved kids and were very gentle with all of the children in my family. Can you tell me at what point and time these dogs were supposed to "turn" vicious because they were Pit Bulls?
This article sucks because it is leaving out so much positive information about the breed.- I give it 5 thumbs down.
Come on

Ashland City, TN

#8 Apr 25, 2009
Before I say anything, I'd like to point out that I do not own a pitbull. I do, however, work with a local rescue and it sickens me to see what people do to this breed. I live in a neighborhood with several families who have pits and my yorkies and chihuahuas have never been mauled. Pits are not born killers, they are made into killers by the people who abuse them, train them until they drop, and fight them. Look at the Michael Vick dogs ... anyone who wants to ban all pitbulls is just being willfully ignorant. Do you people have any idea how many pits are in this country? Many of these dogs are loving members of families. I've seen these dogs come into rescue absolutely terrified of everyone and I've seen the trainers lose sleep to work with them and teach them to trust again. Sometimes it isn't possible, but more often than not, these dogs go into families who treat them as they deserve to be treated and never have any problems. I've seen pitbulls cower if you come near them and I've seen chihuahuas who'd take your finger off. It doesn't mean all chihuahuas are bad. It just means that some dogs get crappy owners. Some children are born to terrible parents and they go on to become criminals. Are you prepared to ban all children because of a very small minority? I have no issue with holding owners responsible. I think animal cruelty should be punished much harder than it is. Dogs, all dogs, from the smallest terrier to the biggest hound, depend on us for love, care and protection. It's not the dog's fault if he doesn't get that. The blame lays completely on the shoulders of humans. You want to ban something? Why not ban violent criminals from ever having any contact with animals? Why not ban anyone who has ever been convicted of animal cruelty from ever having contact with animals? You want to make a difference? Stop trying to kill an entire breed of dog and start punishing the scum who abuse them.
Dbrenner

United States

#9 Apr 26, 2009
Has everyone forgotten WHY Dade county instituted a pit bull ban in the 1980s?

1979 - 7-year old Frankie Scarbrough lost an ear and most of his scalp to a pit bull attack. Doctors say the youngster's extensive facial wounds will require years of reconstructive surgery...

1980 - 72-year old Ethel Tiggs underwent surgery Wednesday following a savage mauling by the two pet dogs she loved. The dogs, Snook and Elton John, had torn at the elderly woman's clothes until only a scrap of bra was left on her body...

1945 - The two recent attacks revived memories of a 1945 tragedy in which a woman [Doretta Zinke] was torn to death and partially eaten by a pack of pit bulls...
concerned son

AOL

#10 Apr 26, 2009
What we think: Stop shielding pit bulls
Orlando Sentinel
Like Romana Boska, whose arm was nearly torn off by a pit bull when the 75-year-old Jehovah's Witness knocked on the wrong door in Deltona on a Saturday ...

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Think about this... the 75 year old Jehovah's Witnesses was at risk for cold-calling in the first place.

The Watchtower Society headquarters for Jehovah's Witnesses sect must STOP using the elderly and minor children to recruit door to door for them.

It's not safe!
Benit

Alexandria, VA

#11 Apr 26, 2009
Ah, the ramblings of another person sitting behind a computer doing a google search who knows nothing about dogs, dogs attacks or pit bulls. Funny how in your Google search you didn't come across these other Floridians killed by dogs:

Lorraine May killed by her Golden Ret. X and Australian shep x in 2008.
Pablo Flietas killed by a Boxer in 2006.
Jose Dias, an infant, killed by a Labrador in 2004.
Viola Sense, killed by a large shepherd-type dog in 2000
or Jasmine Dillashaw killed by a Shepherd/husky in 2000
or dozens of other fatal or severe attacks by other breeds.

Either you have no clue what you are talking about, or you have purposely sort out only the information which supports your ignorant view.

Even an editorial should have some level of fairness and accuracy - but, like most people today, your hysteria, emotion, and your Google search replace facts, reasoning and critical thinking.

Sorry, but Google searches, emotion and hysteria do NOT solve problems and will not have ANY impact on dog attacks.
Bob Itt

Winter Park, FL

#12 Apr 26, 2009
What does this have to do with the Jesus license plates?
Bob Itt

Winter Park, FL

#13 Apr 26, 2009
Oops, never mind.
FastJack

Kissimmee, FL

#14 Apr 26, 2009
Whoa!!! Back down. Take a breath. Whoever wrote that editoria was either hormonal or hysterical. Get a gripl.
Michelle Lennon

AOL

#15 Apr 26, 2009
The REAL problem was correctly stated in the 2nd paragraph - it is not about breeds, it is about irresponsible people. Banning a breed will NOT make these people suddenly BE resposible it will just make the responsible ones criminals and the irresponsible ones will just get another breed and be irresponsible with that one. If you want to make your citizens safe all it takes is using coirrent laws to make owners responsible for the actions of their dogs and press and persue charges.
It isn't about the dogs, it is about PEOPLE and the good news is that there are already ways to solve that problem.
Some Other Guy

Orlando, FL

#17 Apr 26, 2009
KDawg wrote:
Over the past 44 years (1965-present), there have been 35 fatal dog attacks in Florida, an average of one (1) fatality every 1 to 2 years.
At least eleven (11) different breeds/types* of dogs have been identified in these incidents.
That raises a good point.

Where are the numbers showing how many attacks (not necessarily fatal) involve pit bulls vs. other breeds... what percentage of pit bulls there are problems with, vs. others... how often the dog's treatment & training comes into play?

It seems that every decision here is being made without the information needed to make it.
ChicagoJ

Chicago, IL

#18 Apr 26, 2009
I am not going to even get into the whole pit bull thing, but more so point out that this is one of the most poorly written, under researched editorial articles I've ever read. Nothing that this author says hasn't been said before, I've read this identical article one hundred times. Maybe some new factual evidence would be helpful to support his claims, instead of something that happened with an irresponsible dog owner and a Jehovah's Witness 9 years ago. I mean, 8 years ago some Muslims got on planes and terrorized the US. Should we ban them too? The whole religion just based on what a few extremists who were improperly raised did to our country? Maybe that should be your next article, because it seems like you like picking on defenseless groups who have already gotten the short end of the stick. Your ideas are very novel, keep writing.
reminder

Merritt Island, FL

#19 Apr 26, 2009
The official breed is in the terrier class and the dogs are medium sized animals most are black and white. American pit terriers are rare.

Pit bulls are not a breed but a mix of various breeds.
Kent Nauman

Winter Garden, FL

#23 Apr 26, 2009
I own dachshunds. My neighbor is a nice person with a nice pit bull. The dog fighters are the problem. They deliberately train the dogs to be vicious. How about much stiffer dog fighting sentences in line with deliberately training a dog to viciously act people after the manner of using a gun or knife on a person?
knickers down dot net

White House, TN

#24 Apr 26, 2009
I wholeheartedly agree!

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