Bank Heist Suspect Shot Dead After Chase

Full story: Hartford Courant

A suspect in a 24-hour crime spree that included a sexual assault and a bank robbery in West Hartford was shot and killed in Hartford Monday after leading state police on a car chase and threatening troopers ...
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jen

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Mar 4, 2008
 
a knife?
timster

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Mar 4, 2008
 
Never bring a knife to a gun fight!Cops 1
bad guys zero
Yeah cops......
bbj

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Mar 4, 2008
 
This would have been a great time to use the Taser. I don't think the Death Penalty fits the crime in this case. Do they not have Tasers?
Rising Scar

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Mar 4, 2008
 
Yes Jen, a knife.. Maybe the officers should have tried hugging him..? Idiot..
Florida Cop

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Mar 4, 2008
 
One dead, many more to go.
Todd

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Mar 4, 2008
 
BBJ,
Last week you lashed out at cops using tasers. Now your all for it?
We got a flip flopper and future Hillary voter on the board.
Florida Cop

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Mar 4, 2008
 
bbj wrote:
This would have been a great time to use the Taser. I don't think the Death Penalty fits the crime in this case. Do they not have Tasers?
Hey bbj,
I will take the knife and you get the taser, then we will see who get their balls cut off. Know what you are talking about before you open your mouth.
cops

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#10
Mar 4, 2008
 
The cops saved the taxpayers the expense of a trial and incarceration. This is a great case of blue justice. Unfortunately or the cops they have to deal with all of the bull that will be spewed on them. I bet the rape victim is happy with the outcome.
SoSo

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Mar 4, 2008
 
Good job men, you did what had to be done. I'm glad you are all safe, keep up the good work!
visitor

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Mar 4, 2008
 
Once again, I am totally amazed at these comments about how the cops were in such danger, had to take control of the situation, etc. The guy had a KNIFE, for chrissakes. If he had a gun, their lives would defintely have been in danger, and shooting him would have been justified. They had him surrounded, they all had guns, he had a knife. Where is the real danger here? It doesn't matter what he may have been guilty of doing prior to this; he had a knife, they had GUNS.
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Mar 4, 2008
 
Yahoo, makes my day, good riddance to bad rubbish.
Jake McGruff

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Mar 4, 2008
 
To "Visitor" and all others who don't understand deadly use of force, the police had every right to use deadly force in this circumstance. You speak from ignorance not understanding the legal concepts of deadly force or the application of those tactics and apply your emotions that don't mean a thing. I would strongly suggest you never pull a knife on police either or you too will be shot center mass to stop the threat to the police officers.
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Mar 4, 2008
 
All I want to know is if the Cops used Lead, Copper Jacketed, or the Copper Jacketed Hollow Points. Just for future use!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Common Sense

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Mar 4, 2008
 
bbj wrote:
This would have been a great time to use the Taser. I don't think the Death Penalty fits the crime in this case. Do they not have Tasers?
I don't know about Hartford. The thing is in practically every department SOME officers have tasers. Not all do as the weapons are expensive, more so than handguns, and every year departments try to add more tasers to the force in their annual budget. Let's assume (I hate that word) for a minute that the officer had a taser. In the initial chase he probably would have a gun pulled out, not knowing what the suspect had. So if he finds the suspect has a knife does he ask the suspect to pause while he holsters his weapon, and then pulls out a taser?
Mr Common Sense

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Mar 4, 2008
 
Obvious wrote:
Ok, the guy had a knife and a bunch of state troopers and hartford police had guns...what is the threat here again? Couldn't they have shot him in the leg to keep him from running away?
Sorry obvious, but you've been watching too many Dirty Harry movies. Real life shooting is not likethat.
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Mar 4, 2008
 
Obvious wrote:
Ok, the guy had a knife and a bunch of state troopers and hartford police had guns...what is the threat here again? Couldn't they have shot him in the leg to keep him from running away?
Unbelievable!!! I suppose the police should have asked him to stand still and hold out his leg so they could have shot him a little bit until he dropped the knife.
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Mar 4, 2008
 
visitor wrote:
Once again, I am totally amazed at these comments about how the cops were in such danger, had to take control of the situation, etc. The guy had a KNIFE, for chrissakes. If he had a gun, their lives would defintely have been in danger, and shooting him would have been justified. They had him surrounded, they all had guns, he had a knife. Where is the real danger here? It doesn't matter what he may have been guilty of doing prior to this; he had a knife, they had GUNS.
I'm curious, why did you leave out the part about him threatening the Troopers and about refusing commands to drop the knife? Of course, your way makes it sound better for those who want to believe this guy was a "poor victim" They should have waited until he got closer to stab one of them first, or tried to shoot him in the hand. It would have been easy to do after a high speed chase of a rape and bank robbery suspect. You probably do it all the time. Which one hour cop show did you get this from? Perhaps all cops should now carry knives to even the playing field. That way cops won't ever have the upper hand. Then you'll be happy!
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Mar 4, 2008
 
Cromwell Observer wrote:
Hey visitor...How about the next time there is such a situation they send a trooper to your house to bring you to the scene. Then you can approach the dirtbag and take the knife away!!!!
Yes, he had a knife. Troopers had guns. Scumbag told repeatedly to drop the knife. He refused. Moral of the story.. When cops give you a lawful order, obey it. Choose not to and suffer the consequences. I repeat what I said in pervious post. He was a POS (Piece of S---). Troopers did society a huge favor.
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visitor wrote:
Once again, I am totally amazed at these comments about how the cops were in such danger, had to take control of the situation, etc. The guy had a KNIFE, for chrissakes. If he had a gun, their lives would defintely have been in danger, and shooting him would have been justified. They had him surrounded, they all had guns, he had a knife. Where is the real danger here? It doesn't matter what he may have been guilty of doing prior to this; he had a knife, they had GUNS.
OK, I won't get sarcastic now. Visitor, go outside, count off two seconds and at the same time run. How much distance did you cover? Now assuming that you were shot during those two seconds you will be surprised to know that the initial shots don't STOP people, their inertia carries them a distance, still with knife in hand. Many experts have done studies to figure out what a safe distance is when it comes to confronting someone with a knife.

He wasn't "surrounded", that would be poor planning on the troopers part, they would endanger each other.

Moral of the story is to leave the investigation to the experts. The answer will be determined by them, not here.
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Mar 4, 2008
 
let's see - two cops holding guns on the subject - warning issued to drop the knofe - while on cop maintains a shoot to kill bead, the other aims for a leg and takes the disabling shot. Seems like a reasonable training scenario to teach at the academy.

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