Bombs, chemicals in Orlando's Azalea Park? Army is set to find out

The Army isn't sure whether there were old bombs or toxic chemicals left behind at a former World War II-era testing range in the Azalea Park area of Orlando, but it will spend about $1.3 million to find out. Full Story
CFL Buried Treasures

Chesterfield, MO

#1 Jul 18, 2008
This should serve as a warning for future growth in CFL. Basically, the military was not very thorough about tracking and recording use of chemicals and munitions. The military always knew about the chemicals in the area of Azalea Park, but the records were lost about the other training with explosives that were done there. These were recently uncovered in while in the Pinecastle investigation. This should concern all CFL residents. Who really knows what other CFL buried treasures we will find??

With that being said, this is a warning that CFL must do a better job of inspecting and testing sites for future development. Developers should be required to obtain an official inspection and sign-off by the Corp of Engineers prior to breaking ground on any new development. CFL has been used extensively by our military and we simply do not know what is or isn’t buried out there.

Residents of Baldwin Park should also start asking a lot of questions. Remember that use to be a Naval Training Base. It can take years to see the side affects on the public health if there are any chemicals in the area. This area should also be inspected.
Bombs in Azalea Park

AOL

#2 Jul 18, 2008
My father was stationed on the Navy Base several times throughout his career and I live in the Azalea Park area, right where the cans of chemicals were stored. There is a big difference between the actual base and the bomb site! I doubt Baldwin Park has anything to worry about except maybe leftovers lost from the Navy Exchange, the chapel, the commissary, or the barricks! The bigger concern is areas that were not residence to the military!
Chris

Orlando, FL

#3 Jul 18, 2008
Why bother at this point? Azalea Park has been there now for decades and nothing has happened. Now all they will do is drive up fear and drive down home values.
CFL Buried Treasures

Chesterfield, MO

#4 Jul 18, 2008
Chris wrote:
Why bother at this point? Azalea Park has been there now for decades and nothing has happened. Now all they will do is drive up fear and drive down home values.
Sounds like you are ok with chemicals being stored underground leaking into the water supply?

This is a problem/risk that increases with time. If there are chemicals stored underground we need them removed. If there are soil samples that are contaminated we need this cleaned up.

It is not ok to simply ignore the risk of contaminating the water supply.
CFL Buried Treasures

Chesterfield, MO

#5 Jul 18, 2008
Chris wrote:
Why bother at this point? Azalea Park has been there now for decades and nothing has happened. Now all they will do is drive up fear and drive down home values.
Just so you understand, I have home in Azalea Park and I too am concerned about property values, but as I see it, we must investigate the reported/known risk otherwise it will always plague the values of our homes.

Once the inspection is done we will resolve the issue of property values. If we are given a “clean bill of health”, the property values will increase or decrease depending on normal economic events. If the problem is so great that it cannot be corrected we will seek compensation for harm/damages from the DOD. This is not the preferred resolution, but if DOD was negligent in their actions and we are now at risk, they must correct their mistake(s).
Chris

Orlando, FL

#6 Jul 18, 2008
CFL Buried Treasures wrote:
<quoted text>
Just so you understand, I have home in Azalea Park and I too am concerned about property values, but as I see it, we must investigate the reported/known risk otherwise it will always plague the values of our homes.
Once the inspection is done we will resolve the issue of property values. If we are given a “clean bill of health”, the property values will increase or decrease depending on normal economic events. If the problem is so great that it cannot be corrected we will seek compensation for harm/damages from the DOD. This is not the preferred resolution, but if DOD was negligent in their actions and we are now at risk, they must correct their mistake(s).
i hope that Azalea Park DOES get a clean bill of health, however chemicals seeping into the ground, well after 50+ years of tropical weather, deluge after deluge of rain, etc, it would be highly probable that any stored chemicals would be disipated at this point. Bombs & live ammunition, then yeah, dig it up...
CFL Buried Treasures

Chesterfield, MO

#7 Jul 18, 2008
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>
i hope that Azalea Park DOES get a clean bill of health, however chemicals seeping into the ground, well after 50+ years of tropical weather, deluge after deluge of rain, etc, it would be highly probable that any stored chemicals would be disipated at this point. Bombs & live ammunition, then yeah, dig it up...
During the meeting it was stated that "drums" may be buried on the site and then a statement regarding the drums rusting and leaking over time. Based on that statement, I don't think it is wise to "assume" all chemicals have disipated and/or the drums leaked everything out 50+ years ago.

It is time to take the blinders off and deal with the situation.

In all likelihood our government did their best to keep the blinders on for the past 50+ years and now we are paying the price for the failure to do the right thing back then.

Keeping our heads in the sand and acting like nothing happened is the worst thing to do.

As the expression goes "Stuff happens".




maxfield

Orange City, FL

#8 Jul 18, 2008
Do you trust the DOD/government? No.
I am glad for the residents that investigation will be done. Hope nothing is found.
Kevin

Orlando, FL

#9 Jul 18, 2008
According to this article, I stated that I have no confidence in the Army Corps... I don't remember saying anything of that nature. I'm glad the corp. is here. What I don't believe is that they really know what to look for or where to look it. There are previos studies of the site posted on the army corps. web site and they have a suspicion that there are chemical agents buried around the site. The report refers to large containers. I also believe, like others, that time seems to have uncovered nothing and hopefully rain has washed it all away but, we might be dealing with a large quantity of agent. The problem is no one really knows since there are missing records. I take my child to the park that now sits on the former site so I would like a more conclusive test result about residue and possible burial, but this statement that I don't have confidence in the Army corp. is not true. I don't know where that came from. I told him I didn't hear anything new in the hearing and I doubt they will discover much concerning chemical agents. I believe they are more worried about munitions and possible bombs at Chikasaw. They are doing what they can to reconstruct something that happened a long time ago. I also agree that the media is turning this into a circus and I wish I could have asked the corp my qustion without the glare of a fox news camera and hounding reporters. That buisness stifles discussion in my opinion. I'm not that worried, I live near the site and I would rather not have this glaring in the news every night. The bottom line is, I live here, I want it to be clean for my kid... especially If I get stuck here. Maybe he's right in the idea that I don't see how they could thouroughly examine such a large area. I can only hope that do they job well and not worry about it after that.
Charlie Klein

United States

#10 Jul 19, 2008
REMEMBER THE LOVE CANAL: I hope that isn't what happens here in Orlando.

Isn't is a shame that our elected cannot find documents of importance from the past. I wonder how much shredding is going on now with our elected officials.

The Sunshine laws need to be strickly enforced, and those who violate them must be removed from office or from the work pool. No shredding.
fred

Kissimmee, FL

#11 Apr 28, 2012
hello..people be imform,i live here at costa drive,for the pass 8 years,at least 20 people around me neibors die off cancer,be aware moved ,,,ages 25 to 70...there is somethig wrong.
Paul Bodnick

Ocala, FL

#12 Oct 30, 2013
What ever happened withis issue?
CFL Buried Treasures wrote:
<quoted text>
During the meeting it was stated that "drums" may be buried on the site and then a statement regarding the drums rusting and leaking over time. Based on that statement, I don't think it is wise to "assume" all chemicals have disipated and/or the drums leaked everything out 50+ years ago.
It is time to take the blinders off and deal with the situation.
In all likelihood our government did their best to keep the blinders on for the past 50+ years and now we are paying the price for the failure to do the right thing back then.
Keeping our heads in the sand and acting like nothing happened is the worst thing to do.
As the expression goes "Stuff happens".

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