“FOOTBALL”

Level 8

Since: Aug 08

Brother Love

#11854 Dec 28, 2012
Good Morning All

Shuaw how is everything? Do you have power?

“FOOTBALL”

Level 8

Since: Aug 08

Brother Love

#11855 Dec 28, 2012
He left a note and part of the note was released. It essentially said that killing is what he does best and he wanted to cause as much death and damage as possible to the area.

Firemen from all over the country are expected to be coming to Rochester this weekend to pay their respects. Many of the local hotels are giving them free lodging. There's a few different reception sites set up for this weekend and businesses from all over are making donations.
rubygoober wrote:
I could not for the life of me figure out why that nutjob killed the firemen~~
After reading an update, and finding his sister dead in the house he set on fire, I now get it.
Sounds like they were collateral damage in his hateful crime.
He simply did not want the house saved...

Level 7

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11856 Dec 28, 2012
LizW wrote:
I don't have a generator but I think my brother does. My plan would be to just go over to my sister's or borrow the generator.
We had a major ice storm back in 1991. I was lucky and only lost power for 3 days. My parents were out for 2 weeks. We don't usually get ice storms and I never saw anything like this before. Even the houses were coated with a couple inches of ice.
<quoted text>
We don't get bad ice storms like that every year, but that one year we got it bad. The generator was a great investment.

“Where the heck am I?”

Level 4

Since: Sep 08

Twighlight Zone

#11857 Dec 28, 2012
LizW wrote:
Good Morning All
Shuaw how is everything? Do you have power?
GM Liz!! Everythings fine! Yes we have power. Have been busy trying to get Mom's meds straightened out. They had them alllllll messed up. Geeze. What with this cold weather, it is not fun running around town at all.

Level 6

Since: Aug 10

Oklahoma City, OK

#11858 Dec 28, 2012
Shuaw wrote:
<quoted text>
GM Liz!! Everythings fine! Yes we have power. Have been busy trying to get Mom's meds straightened out. They had them alllllll messed up. Geeze. What with this cold weather, it is not fun running around town at all.
Hi all..Shuaw I am so glad you posted I was worried about you.
Our Christmas snow mostly was gone day after Christmas but
this a.m. we got it back again.
Should clear out soon.
Just going to sit in and may stay in my pj's.

“FOOTBALL”

Level 8

Since: Aug 08

Brother Love

#11859 Dec 29, 2012
Good Morning All

We have another snow advisory today and I need to get to the grocery store. Anyone want to go for me?

“FOOTBALL”

Level 8

Since: Aug 08

Brother Love

#11860 Dec 29, 2012
Frigs..........your life sounds just like mine only I have a young teen thrown in the mix.

Is the highlight of your day a good lifetime movie too?
Shuaw wrote:
<quoted text>
GM Liz!! Everythings fine! Yes we have power. Have been busy trying to get Mom's meds straightened out. They had them alllllll messed up. Geeze. What with this cold weather, it is not fun running around town at all.

“FOOTBALL”

Level 8

Since: Aug 08

Brother Love

#11861 Dec 30, 2012
Good Morning All
Where is everyone?
The storm we were suppose to get yesterday never ended up being that bad so I went out grocery shopping. Wegman's was like a zoo and I ended up parking kind of far away from the store. So here I am pushing my shopping cart thru the snow and slush ( felt like 200 pounds) and from a distance I see this guy looking in my car windows. He saw me heading towards his direction and yell out and asked me it that was my car. I said yes and he said " I'm sorry but I hit your car twice". Apparently he thought he hit the car once and back up to check and hit it again. My SUV is like a tank and when he hit it the second time he got his car stuck on my tire area and it pulled his bumper totally off. So he called the police but with all the accident due to the bad weather a officer probably wasn't going to be able to respond for at least a hour. I took his info and gave him mine and told him I wasn't waiting there for an hour. He was a young guy and this was his first accident, he was all worried I was going to freak out on him. I told him not to worry about it and just have his people call my people.
Frigs........In my driveway alone between me and the kids we've had countless fender benders.

“FOOTBALL”

Level 8

Since: Aug 08

Brother Love

#11862 Dec 30, 2012
I just read the transcripts of the killers various parole board hearings.
The grandmother who he beat with the hammer was 92, he then pushed or she fell down the basement steps. It's not very clear, it also sounds like she didn't die right away. He was living with the Grandmother and was suppose to be her caregiver.

He had no prior criminal history and never had even been in so much as a fist fight. At all the parole hearing he says he really doesn't know why he did what he did but he clearly states if someone does something like that once he thinks it's possible they could do it again. He seems bright and well spoken but never really expressed any remorse. His attitude at all the hearing was pretty much the same, he doesn't know why or what came over him. At the time of the murder he was mad at his Grandmother over something and the parole board was looking for remorse and asking him if he thought he could have handled the situation better. You could tell he knew what the parole board needed/wanted to hear yet he wouldn't say he was sorry.
He worked at a metal shop in the prison and tried to work as many hours as possible to save money. Some weeks he was working over 100 hours a week. He worked so many hours he eventually had a nervous breakdown and was hospitalized. He started then to work less hours in the shop. Somehow he walked out of prison with over 9K just from working at the metal shop. The impression I got was that he didn't mind prison and prior to prison he never had steady employment. Working in the metal shop made him feel good about himself and he seemed worried he wasn't going to make it on the outside.

In the letter the police found after the Webster killings he says " killing is what he does best". He never had any type of counseling while in prison or even when he had the breakdown. The parole board asked him about this and he said no. I wonder why they didn't require him to have counseling before he was eventually released. He basically told the parole board he wasn't ready to be in society.
rubygoober wrote:
I could not for the life of me figure out why that nutjob killed the firemen~~
After reading an update, and finding his sister dead in the house he set on fire, I now get it.
Sounds like they were collateral damage in his hateful crime.
He simply did not want the house saved...

“That's all folks...”

Since: Jan 12

Paradise North Georgia

#11863 Dec 30, 2012
Liz~~
Thanks for posting the in-depth info about this guy.
He sounds like a Sling Blade, kills when he thinks
he has a cause to do so. Seems as though it was
always a family member. Sounds like he waited out of some sort of twisted sense of loyalty to his mother, before killing his sister; whom he openly hated by several accounts.
Sad, tragic and unecessary this monster killed firemen to accomplish his mission of hate.

“Legend in my own mind”

Level 4

Since: Dec 12

Cougar & lovin'it!

#11864 Dec 30, 2012
Thats why we have asylums for the criminally insane but no one is ever addmitted untill AFTER they kill!What are all the state and federally funded psyciatrists for?

“That's all folks...”

Since: Jan 12

Paradise North Georgia

#11865 Dec 30, 2012
Arabian Prancer wrote:
Thats why we have asylums for the criminally insane but no one is ever addmitted untill AFTER they kill!What are all the state and federally funded psyciatrists for?
The funding for public mental health has been scaled back to
the point of almost nothing.
What we do have is a non-effective, strapped system.

Level 7

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11866 Dec 30, 2012
Is everyone snowed in? Our nasty snow is melting. Suppose to get more tomorrow night.. Snow days are the days I love sitting at home and doing nothing.
Been ordering stuff online for the new baby that will be here in a few months.

Level 6

Since: Aug 10

Oklahoma City, OK

#11867 Dec 30, 2012
Hi all...I have just been sitting in also.
No snow but cold. I did just run to the store.
What do you guys eat for good luck on New Years?
Mr.Mouse has to have black eye beans ugh.......
I do cabbage..Guess it depends what part of country
you live in.
Tonight we are having New York strip,mushrooms and
bake tater. I am sick of ham and turkey lol.

Level 7

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11868 Dec 30, 2012
I Be Mousie wrote:
Hi all...I have just been sitting in also.
No snow but cold. I did just run to the store.
What do you guys eat for good luck on New Years?
Mr.Mouse has to have black eye beans ugh.......
I do cabbage..Guess it depends what part of country
you live in.
Tonight we are having New York strip,mushrooms and
bake tater. I am sick of ham and turkey lol.
I don't think I could swallow a black eyed pea. We will probably eat out. We decided not to go to any New Years eve party's. It's just not worth the hangover the next day.
Your dinner sounds great. I made a pot of beef stew, so that's what we are having tonight.

Level 6

Since: Aug 10

Oklahoma City, OK

#11869 Dec 30, 2012
The Real Missy wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think I could swallow a black eyed pea. We will probably eat out. We decided not to go to any New Years eve party's. It's just not worth the hangover the next day.
Your dinner sounds great. I made a pot of beef stew, so that's what we are having tonight.
Yummy beef stew is alway's good.
When is the baby due? Boy or girl?
I cannot believe I am getting sick of football lol.
Our two college bowls are coming up . One on the 1st and other
on the 4th than I am so done.

Level 7

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11870 Dec 30, 2012
I Be Mousie wrote:
<quoted text>
Yummy beef stew is alway's good.
When is the baby due? Boy or girl?
I cannot believe I am getting sick of football lol.
Our two college bowls are coming up . One on the 1st and other
on the 4th than I am so done.
I am not into football, but love baseball. That's all that's on tv today.
The new Grandbaby is due in April and it's a little boy. The Grandaughter is very excited. You can tell she is gonna be very protective of him.

Level 6

Since: Aug 10

Oklahoma City, OK

#11871 Dec 30, 2012
The Real Missy wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not into football, but love baseball. That's all that's on tv today.
The new Grandbaby is due in April and it's a little boy. The Grandaughter is very excited. You can tell she is gonna be very protective of him.
That will be so nice a boy and girl.

I like baseball also but not as well as football.
Really I love all sports.
Now I am hook on cage fights..
I don't like wrestling to fake but so far cage fights
look real.
I use to watch girls roller skate and the robots machines
but never see them on anymore.

“That's all folks...”

Since: Jan 12

Paradise North Georgia

#11872 Dec 30, 2012
Good evening Ladies~~
Do you girl's who watch American Idol think it's
going to work with the new judges or do you think
the ratings are going to slide as a result of it?
AND~it sounds like The Voice is really gaining in
popularity.

Level 7

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11873 Dec 30, 2012
I Be Mousie wrote:
<quoted text>
That will be so nice a boy and girl.
I like baseball also but not as well as football.
Really I love all sports.
Now I am hook on cage fights..
I don't like wrestling to fake but so far cage fights
look real.
I use to watch girls roller skate and the robots machines
but never see them on anymore.
My nephew does the cage fighting.. It's real! My nephew has won some and lost some he almost lost his ear in one fight... I have a friend that wrestles but it's fake. We went to one of his shows and laughed at how fake it was..

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