Barack Obama, our next President

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ... Read more
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#907622 May 20, 2013
Yes, the Obama administration has been shutting up opponents at a breakneck pace. That's why you don't see any opponents. They're all squelched. Barack Obama personally goes out to all the individual government offices and says, "Hi there, can you make life slightly more irritating for some random guy in Texas who doesn't like me? I'm thinking maybe have him fill out an extra form or something. Yeah. Yeah, that'll do it. Take that, you tea party bastard."

Yes, these bozos in the branch office shouldn't have done it. That's why the IRS made them stop, and had an investigation, and apologized, and why heads are probably going to roll and then some. On the other hand, it's not exactly hard to see why any person of average human intelligence would note that there have been a metric bucketload of organizations cropping up these last few years with oddly partisan names like "Tea Party Wankers" or "Anti-Tax Patriots for Electing Republicans On The Sly" and claiming to be tax-exempt, nonpartisan organizations and think to themselves that there were likely to be a considerable number of scammers mixed in with that lot. Mind you, Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS is one of these 501c4 outfits that gets somehow deemed sufficiently unpolitical, making the whole category into something of a scammer's paradise from the get-go; again, though—bad IRS bureaucrats. Bad.

Still, I find it difficult to get too worked up with world-shattering apoplectic outrage over it, which makes me a bad person, or possibly (even worse!) just not a conspiracy theorist. That's the problem; from McConnell down to the Kings and Gohmerts and Stockmans, all of conservatism has devolved into one big conspiracy theory. It's Breitbartism, all the way down. It's writ right into the movement now, and defined as synonymous with patriotism. You can go from Agenda 21 to ACORN to United Nations gun-grabbers to the powerful solar panel lobby to Benghazi all in one sweeping step; what the precise conspiracy is supposed to be or whether there is f--k-all worth of evidence to support your pet theory is unimportant; it's all about the theater, the very important and very politically motivated and very career-enhancing performance art of presuming everything to be connected to everything. Some IRS officers in a branch office screwed up? For real? Good God—Darrell Issa was probably rendered near-unconscious on his office floor when he heard it, breathing into a paper bag and waving off staffers asking him whether they should call for an ambulance.

Yes, yes, I should be more outraged. Sorry. I already have outrage fatigue, and I've had it for 10 years.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/19/1208...

“It's always darkest 'fore dawn”

Level 5

Since: Jul 08

When's dawn?

#907623 May 20, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Unions are entirely political.
Unions are not 501(c)(3) like churches for which there are political restrictions upon things they can do (like supporting or donating to candidates, or even comparing candidates.) Unions are under 501(c)(5) which does not include any of the same restrictions. Both are non-profits, and unions have a number of functions that are entirely apolitical.
Homer 2016

Bethlehem, PA

#907625 May 20, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
The IG documented the IRS illegal targeting of conservative groups.
The AP documented the inappropriate possibly illegal grab of the DOJ of private reporter information.
Emails that have been released concerning Benghazi shows that yes indeed they were scrubbing what the CIA/FBI was reporting
Ok, let me know when you can pin it to Obama. This kind of crap has gone on all the time under every administration.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#907626 May 20, 2013
The one dismal benefit of this particular NotSufficientlyTaxExemptGate pseudocrisis may be that, as with all screw ups or distortions or outright abuses of government power, it's only discovered to be Very Very Bad when a conservative somewhere finds themselves on the receiving end of it. Under the last administration, protesting against the Iraq War got you put on an actual Pentagon list of possible terrorist threats, and nobody from the other side of the aisle gave a flying f--k. Quakers got put on that one. Effing Quakers. The uncanny nature by which the Terror Alert Level got itself raised before important elections or other politically helpful dates didn't result in outrage even after one of the architects of the Rainbow of Terror admitted that yes, he was pressured to do exactly that.

And yes, as others have pointed out, one of the vanishingly few times the IRS ever investigated a church for possible violations of their nonpartisan, nonprofit status it was for an anti-war sermon, during the Bush administration, two days before the election that won Bush a second term. That wasn't a scandal either. During the same year the IRS launched an investigation of the NAACP for opposing Bush's reelection. No Republicans were calling for Bush to resign over that particular outrage.

The Fast and Furious program, long been peddled by current Republicans as the worstest scandal to hit anything anywhere until the next worstest scandal, started under Bush. Nobody gives a damn. During the Bush administration, there were 13 terror attacks on U.S. diplomatic compounds (not including Iraq or Afghanistan), killing 98. You couldn't find a Republican lawmaker then who could even tell you what the talking points for a particular bombing or rocket attack or armed assault were at the time, much less one who decided that the real scandal was whether administration officials classified the attack as a "terrorist attack" or an "act of terror" in the days afterwards, and what might that difference mean? I mean, for f--ks sake, Issa. For f--k's sake. At long last, sir, have no sense of—oh, forget it.

What's this? In trying to track down illegal leaks of classified information, the Department of Justice obtained reporter phone records? Yeah, that's nasty. And it's funny how that keeps happening; under the Bush administration, the FBI did it to the New York Times. It was under the Bush administration, in fact, that we decided government could obtain all phone records, nationwide, and no longer even needed a reason for doing it, and if they had done it illegally—oops!—then we passed a damn law making it legal after-the-fact and immunizing all the people who did it. That's how much of a non-scandal it turned out to be. We were so damn helpful that we passed laws allowing government to break laws.

What about the very Department of Justice itself being politicized—being intentionally populated with members of a single ideology while removing less stalwartly ideological members? That happened. That was a damn fine example of, in McConnell's parlance, an administration using the powers of government to "squelch" their ideological opponents. It was almost a true scandal, even, given how overt it was and how close the architects were to the White House itself. Almost, anyway, but you'd be surprised at how quickly we can get over these things.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/19/1208...

Level 1

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#907627 May 20, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Who decides what the average is and where do you start counting. Looks to me like they started in 1880.
They were going to start much earlier but the cavemen broke all their thermometers while riding dinosaurs.

So how may months in a row would it take for you to admit it?

I mean if 338 isn't enough.

Ever??? Would there ever be enough for you deniers?

The answer is no. You would always have an excuse.

Tree rings are not accurate enough, Studying glaciers won't be accurate enough. It was hot 4 million years ago. There will always be a report somewhere by someone that says no & that is what you will cling to.

B;ah Blah Blah.

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Level 4

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#907628 May 20, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
So, where do you draw the line...19, 20, 21, 22?..Father O'Malley?
The judgment is that a 15-year old lacks the maturity to give informed consent.
lily wanted to bang Justin Beiber when he was 11 and still in training to become a Fireman.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#907629 May 20, 2013
Homer 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>A link to a PDF? Did CNN pull the poll down? No mention of this poll on CNN. It's funny how you can only find this poll on rightwing blogs/sites and World Net Daily.
Let me see, the post Carol responded to contained a link. In the link it says Turner Broadcast and CNN. None of the sites you paranoia mentioned.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/05/1...

Level 4

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#907630 May 20, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
The ultimate irony is that you racists object to being called what you are, what you profess to be on a daily basis. Why is that?
Put down that "cup of bitterness and hatred", Lily.

MLK would be begging you. I'm begging you too.
Homer 2016

Bethlehem, PA

#907631 May 20, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
you know, the first time i heard that was January, 2009. still waiting.
Love it. His poll number have been dropping like a stone since then. lol

Level 1

Since: May 13

Miami, FL

#907632 May 20, 2013
subject Obama a 3rd term.
thethirdrail

Don't laugh---there are several ways this horrible
event can happen:
one--after the 2014 elections Obama supporters can
file a brief with the Supreme Court on the grounds
that the Supreme Court has already ruled(remember
the contract with America)that term limits for
members of Congress are unconstitutional and that
this ruling should be applied to the Pres.
two--If Obama gets control of both houses and the
Supreme Court-He can push through a constitutional
amendment to run again.Remember how Obamacare was
rammed down our throats.
Bswerdloff
Whatever

Gering, NE

#907633 May 20, 2013
leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>Unions are not 501(c)(3) like churches for which there are political restrictions upon things they can do (like supporting or donating to candidates, or even comparing candidates.) Unions are under 501(c)(5) which does not include any of the same restrictions. Both are non-profits, and unions have a number of functions that are entirely apolitical.
Unions are very political.

Level 4

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#907634 May 20, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, this is rich.
Your hypocrisy? I know. It is, isn't it?
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#907635 May 20, 2013
Homer 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>I love how you left out this part - According to the survey, which was conducted Friday and Saturday, 53% of Americans say they approve of the job the president is doing, with 45% saying they disapprove. The president's approval rating was at 51% in CNN's last poll, which was conducted in early April.
Super smackdown Homer.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#907636 May 20, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Yes, the Obama administration has been shutting up opponents at a breakneck pace. That's why you don't see any opponents. They're all squelched. Barack Obama personally goes out to all the individual government offices and says, "Hi there, can you make life slightly more irritating for some random guy in Texas who doesn't like me? I'm thinking maybe have him fill out an extra form or something. Yeah. Yeah, that'll do it. Take that, you tea party bastard."
Yes, these bozos in the branch office shouldn't have done it. That's why the IRS made them stop, and had an investigation, and apologized, and why heads are probably going to roll and then some. On the other hand, it's not exactly hard to see why any person of average human intelligence would note that there have been a metric bucketload of organizations cropping up these last few years with oddly partisan names like "Tea Party Wankers" or "Anti-Tax Patriots for Electing Republicans On The Sly" and claiming to be tax-exempt, nonpartisan organizations and think to themselves that there were likely to be a considerable number of scammers mixed in with that lot. Mind you, Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS is one of these 501c4 outfits that gets somehow deemed sufficiently unpolitical, making the whole category into something of a scammer's paradise from the get-go; again, though—bad IRS bureaucrats. Bad.
Still, I find it difficult to get too worked up with world-shattering apoplectic outrage over it, which makes me a bad person, or possibly (even worse!) just not a conspiracy theorist. That's the problem; from McConnell down to the Kings and Gohmerts and Stockmans, all of conservatism has devolved into one big conspiracy theory. It's Breitbartism, all the way down. It's writ right into the movement now, and defined as synonymous with patriotism. You can go from Agenda 21 to ACORN to United Nations gun-grabbers to the powerful solar panel lobby to Benghazi all in one sweeping step; what the precise conspiracy is supposed to be or whether there is f--k-all worth of evidence to support your pet theory is unimportant; it's all about the theater, the very important and very politically motivated and very career-enhancing performance art of presuming everything to be connected to everything. Some IRS officers in a branch office screwed up? For real? Good God—Darrell Issa was probably rendered near-unconscious on his office floor when he heard it, breathing into a paper bag and waving off staffers asking him whether they should call for an ambulance.
Yes, yes, I should be more outraged. Sorry. I already have outrage fatigue, and I've had it for 10 years.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/19/1208...
Daily Kos? The political Progressive site?

Hormer was just paranoid about something originating from a political site and then you post this.

Use credible sources
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#907637 May 20, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
Put down that "cup of bitterness and hatred", Lily.
MLK would be begging you. I'm begging you too.
Get lost, you didn't know Martin Luther King, nor do you know what he would be thinking posthumously. You're sickening.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#907638 May 20, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
<quoted text>
lily wanted to bang Justin Beiber when he was 11 and still in training to become a Fireman.
This is your true confession.
Jane Says

New York, NY

#907639 May 20, 2013
NJ raider 1 wrote:
<quoted text> Lady, you're full of shit & it's seeping through your pores! You don't, you can't overthrow this administration. IT'S UNAMERICAN! You will do what we had to do for 8yrs as Bush demolished this country, wait on the next election & pray you find a conservative qualified enough to take out Hillary. Fat chance! I will continue to do what the average American does when you bring up these b/s scandals, deflect everything back to the master of disaster, George W. Bush! Democrats can run on that for the next 4 elections & no matter how much you ignore it, you can't deny it!
yeah, wasn't Bush awful? and to think those are already the good old days. obama and his lack of leadership are ruining this country. unless you can tell me one thing that has improved since he took office. besides his golf game that is.
Homer 2016

Bethlehem, PA

#907640 May 20, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me see, the post Carol responded to contained a link. In the link it says Turner Broadcast and CNN. None of the sites you paranoia mentioned.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/05/1...
Do a google search all the rightwing sites have latched onto this poll. Apparently CNN is now the stand bearer for polls lol. It's funny how they all omit the fact that Obaam's numbers have gone up in this same poll. Besides you all hate CNN, you hypcrites kill me.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#907641 May 20, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, maybe Pete's on to something. We've all been smelling a fish in the Magic Negro's administration during his reign.....
So, you're one of his fans?

Quel surpris.

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Level 4

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#907642 May 20, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
Wall Street Journal: Obama's Counsel Was Told of IRS Audit Findings Weeks Ago.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788...
A 5-year-old could connect the dots.
Why would Obama's counsel deliberately keep him out of the loop?
The buck stops at President Barack Hussein Obama.
And all this combined means that the Boy Messiah is once again lying.

"I read it in the newspaper like you did" is getting old real fast.

The only time the Magic Negro pulls his finger out of his butt is to check the wind direction.

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