Barack Obama, our next President

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#885752 Apr 9, 2013
nobamaredux wrote:
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True Conservatives believe that immoral women should have the freedom to murder their children to relieve the burden of their useless offspring on society.
Abortions are legal.

A fetus is not a child. Not everyone believes that life begins at conception.

So teell me why the Republicans want to probe vaginas again & why that isn't government intrusion?

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#885754 Apr 9, 2013
Margaret Thatcher revived the British economy and the spirit of the British people in the 11 years of her premiership. By 1990, when she was forced out of office, she had made Britain the fourth-largest economy in the world. She pioneered a worldwide revolution of privatization and free market that have lifted literally billions of people out of Third World poverty.

These achievements were not without cost — especially in domestic politics. In order to defeat inflation and bring labor unions under the law, Thatcher had to overcome strong opposition from vested interests and a series of strikes by unions resisting reform. As a result, she is still hated by sections of the British Left — whom she defeated not only on policies but also on their treasured grounds of theory and philosophy.

Thatcher’s 3 election victories entrenched that philosophy and her economic and labor reforms as the new consensus of British politics. The economy was characterized by change, profitability, growth, the better allocation of resources (including labor) and the emergence of a new industries — indeed of an entirely new economy, based on the information revolution.
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et the revolution of Thatcherism was also a moral revolution with such qualities as SELF-RELIANCE, DILIGENCE, THRIFT, TRUSTWORTHINESS AND INITIATIVE THAT ENABLE SOMEONE WHO EXHIBITS THEM TO LIVE AND WORK INDEPENDENTLY IN SOCIETY.

Though they are not the only virtues — compassion might be called one of the “softer virtues”— they are essential to the success of a free economy and a civil society, both of which rely on dispersed initiative and self-reliant citizens.

And as Mrs. Thatcher used to point out, the softer virtues such as compassion cannot be exerted by people who lack the vigorous virtues of self-reliance and thrift. Her favorite saying from John Wesley was,“Earn all you can; save all you can; give all you can.”

The reliance of charity upon the vigorous virtues may not be a theological novelty, but it is an important social insight. This moral victory over the left’s collectivism was one of the things that caused her to be most hated — but not the last thing.

Perhaps her most surprising achievement was to be a visionary, since Mrs. Thatcher always seemed a very practical person. Yet she was a visionary precisely because she was practical — and she showed it most clearly in a matter where most statesmen disagreed with her.

She fell from power, partly because she opposed the Euro and its earlier form, the European Exchange Rate Mechanism, or ERM, and the idea of federal European government in general. Her opposition was rooted in highly practical economics: She said that a one-size-fits-all European currency would never suit the 27 nations of the European Union.

She proved to be correct almost immediately. Only 2 years after her warnings, Britain was forced out of the ERM after suffering two years of needless recession. At once the UK economy began to recover and, indeed, to flourish for another decade outside the Euro.

Today, when Europe is riven by a long-running crisis over the single currency, with unemployment levels running at 25% and more in southern Europe, she looks even more prescient. If Britain and Europe had followed her advice in 1990 and later, they would all be more prosperous and friendly today.

Mrs. Thatcher was a great statesman. What future generations may appreciate more, however, was that she was a visionary social and geopolitical thinker, too.

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“equality for ALL means ALL”

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#885755 Apr 9, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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Obama extended the once hated Patriot Act, with added provisions, you remained silent, as did most libs. When the shoe is on the other foot[soon, I hope] the screeching from the left will be deafening.
ding ding ding! That *might* be considered a valid answer.

However, let's be real: Obama never would have crafted the Patriot Act. That was neocon all the way.

So, GWB & Co. infringed on your rights in creating the Patriot Act. Were you loud against him about it?

I would like to see it repealed, and I disagree with Obama extending it. That doesn't mean he's taking over the world.

And the mental midgets screaming about government takeovers aren't referencing the Patriot Act when I hear them screaming.

But it was a fair debate point! First I've seen in a long time.

Now what about the actual government takeovers in Michigan?

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#885756 Apr 9, 2013
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>figures, someone as disgusting as you would hate Margaret Thatcher. America needed someone like her to rescue this country and instead we got the anti-Thatcher, an empty suit out to make sure wealth is redistributed and success a dirty word.
Jane, you don't know what "Redistribution of Wealth" means & you don't care that it has been done for decades.

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#885757 Apr 9, 2013
Leadville Lou wrote:
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Obama and his traitorous demorat satraps in congress have attempted to control health care entirely.
That's a lie. You should have quit while you were (barely) ahead.

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#885759 Apr 9, 2013
Tony C wrote:
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Let's try again:
I'd like to ask all the delusional, gullible, tea-party-led wackadoos who pretend Obama is taking over: how do you feel about the only ACTUAL 'taking over' that has already happened in real life - where Republicans took over entire cities in Michigan, including Detroit? Where they can and have dismissed peoples' votes by dismissing elected officials and appointing new ones?
That's what takeover looks like. I'm sure you're all upset about that, right?
Benton Harbor, MI can't pay it's bills, why, because of the deadbeats who don't pay their taxes, By the way Antony, Benton Harbor has 95-97% black residency. What about the City of Detroit, same game... You want to try again....

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#885761 Apr 9, 2013
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Arguing that their recent trip to Cuba had made them “America’s No. 1 national-security threat,” a group of Republican lawmakers today called for tougher sanctions on the entertainers Beyoncé and Jay-Z.


“We must send a strong message to Beyoncé and Jay-Z that the United States of America will not tolerate this kind of provocation,” said Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Florida), who blamed President Obama for “permitting the crisis to escalate dangerously.”

“While the President has allowed himself to be distracted by North Korea, Beyoncé and Jay-Z were engaged in threatening activities right in our own hemisphere,” he said, charging the President with being “soft on Beyoncé.”

Echoing his sentiments, Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen called for the “toughest economic sanctions possible to isolate the growing threat posed by Beyoncé and Jay-Z.”

But while economic sanctions may be politically popular, White House spokesman Jay Carney cautioned that they would probably have little to no effect:“Right now, Jay-Z and Beyoncé have more money than the U.S. government does.”

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowit...

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sonicfilter

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#885762 Apr 9, 2013
Ann Coulter: Sarah Palin Should Have Learned 'Proper English'

...."if she had been willing to put her nose to the grindstone and pursue improving herself, speaking proper English, reading stuff, knowing lots of things, she could have been great."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/ann-...

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TSM

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#885764 Apr 9, 2013
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Jane, you don't know what "Redistribution of Wealth" means & you don't care that it has been done for decades.
RealDave is Redistribution the same as Social Engineering?

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#885765 Apr 9, 2013
La Santa Muerte wrote:
The Left Says Your Children Belong To Them
In a 30-second promo for MSNBC’s Lean Forward campaign, Dr. Melissa Harris-Perry advocates that society end the “private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families,” and instead institute a “collective notion” that kids “are our children,” they belong to the community.
In the MSNBC advertisement, Perry says,“We have never invested as much in public education as we should have because we’ve always had kind of a private notion of children: your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of these are our children.”
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These people are f**king scary.
What's f**king scary is you suckers will fall for anything Glenn Beck dangles in front of you, without thinking for yourself, true or not.

I am not a fan of MHP, she just annoys me for some reason, so I never paid much attention to the commercial.

I just watched it, and as usual, the hysteria can only be bought by stupid people, or people blinded by their agenda.

The premise of her ad is the first line:

"We have never invested as much in public education as we should have..."

Now, as far as I know, she is/was a professor, so I'm not surprised to hear this.

In that context, it sounds to me like what she is saying is we as a nation need to invest more in public education, rather than leaving it SO MUCH up to the parents. She is saying it benefits us as a nation if more children are better educated, even if the means of their parents would make that challenging for individual families.

She is in no way, let me make that clear - in no way - suggesting a government takeover of children.(Seriously - you people are frickin crazy.) She is talking about a more "community-minded" approach to PAYING FOR education.

She's also not a Senator, so who the f cares what she thinks?

Again, not a fan, cannot bring myself to watch her show or watch her as a guest on any other show. But I can't let the righties get away with another outbreak of mass hysteria over nothing. You're such little girls. "Oh my, what will happen, Auntie Em, I'm frightened!" Buck up, bitches.

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#885766 Apr 9, 2013
Aunt Mattie Pearl wrote:
Communist governments value only the Party and the collective with little regard for the individual.
A government with such a worldview does not feel the need to exercise restraint in its treatment of, or its power over, individuals.
Under this type of system, the leadership operates from the premise that “the Party is always right” and, from there,“the Leader of the Party is always right.”
The "collective" ideology paves the way for tyrants whose power and barbarism know no limits.
...This is where we are folks. This is exactly where we are. A communist-based "collective" ideology has a stronghold in the U.S.A. guised as progressive liberalism.
Time to wake up. ASAP.
these communist government around the world are not even close to communism but the worst form of Socialism the incorporates totalitarianism and goes no farther and has a Plutocracy just like true Capitalism.

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Jane Says

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#885767 Apr 9, 2013
TSM wrote:
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RealDave is Redistribution the same as Social Engineering?
I want fairness in vacations. All Americans should get to go to Vail, Martha's Vineyard, Spain and the Bahamas like Moochelle and her daughters do every year. All men need to golf as much as the president.

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lily waxman raton fl

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#885768 Apr 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Wonder if Malkin spanked it out of him?
lily boca gets aroused at the thought of spankings

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lily waxman raton fl

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#885769 Apr 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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And they both suffered from dementia and alzheimers,
Obama and Biden ... Pelosi and Reid ... or both sets?

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#885770 Apr 9, 2013
nobamaredux wrote:
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Homosexual teens commit suicide because they are deeply conflicted individuals who recognize that they do not fit in society.
And who makes them feel that way? That has to be learned somewhere.
lily waxman raton fl

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#885771 Apr 9, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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LOL
Lots Of Liquor

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#885772 Apr 9, 2013
nobamaredux wrote:
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Absolutely not.
Conservatives believe in the supremacy of the individual over the state, while the left wants to submerge individuality to serve the state.
Except for the complete and total opposite when talking about social issues.(hypocrites!)

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#885773 Apr 9, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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You said that a vote should be allowed to reduce the rights of certain segments of the population. Not me.
No I didn't you lying bigot.

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#885774 Apr 9, 2013
Lily Boca Raton Fl wrote:
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Oh GFY
lily boca demonstrates her motherly charm and language skills

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#885775 Apr 9, 2013
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I have to conclude you're being facetious. There's one glaring similarity common to Detroit and the rest of our failing metropolitan areas: they are and have historically been, controlled by Democrats.
Your insistence on calling yourself "Independent" is a joke - like Jesse Jackson calling himself an albino.
Yet another attempt at deflection, not an answer.

So a government takeover is OK if it is taking over areas historically controlled by Democrats?

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