Barack Obama, our next President

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Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#855086 Feb 6, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
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I've got a question. What is two times five?
It isn't 8.5, you goddam idiot.
When Bush took office, Congress had authorized a grand total of 5 trillion dollars of debt.
dot-come bust and the Arabs declaring war on the United States...
When the Democrats took control of all the purse strings of govenment in January, 2007, the total debt was 8.5 trillion dollars.
You either need to learn arithmetic, or learn how our government works.
Bush was actually still President in 2007 & 2008.

Bush left office with the debt at 10.8 trillion.

“Constitutionalis t”

Level 1

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#855087 Feb 6, 2013
Nuculur option wrote:
Are you a masochist??
You thrive on looking stupid!!
I popsted it yesterday, but you ran away.
Last time for this truly ignorant question, from the Dept. of the Treasury.
""The Department of the Treasury is an executive department and the treasury of the United States federal government. It was established by an Act of Congress in 1789 to manage government revenue. The Department is administered by the Secretary of the Treasury, who is a member of the Cabinet.
The first Secretary of the Treasury was Alexander Hamilton, who was sworn into office on September 11, 1789. Hamilton was asked by President George Washington to serve after first having asked Robert Morris (who declined, recommending Hamilton instead). Hamilton almost single-handedly worked out the nation's early financial system, and for several years was a major presence in Washington's administration as well. His portrait is on the obverse of the U.S. ten-dollar bill while the Treasury Department building is shown on the reverse.
Besides the Secretary, one of the best-known Treasury officials is the Treasurer of the United States whose signature, along with the Treasury Secretary's, appears on all Federal Reserve notes.
The Treasury prints and mints all paper currency and coins in circulation through the Bureau of Engraving and Printing and the United States Mint. The Department also collects all federal taxes through the Internal Revenue Service, and manages U.S. government debt instruments.""
"The basic functions of the Department of the Treasury mainly include:
Producing all currency, coinage and postage stamps of the U.S.;
Collecting taxes, duties and money paid to and due to the U.S.:
Paying all bills of the U.S.;
Managing the federal finances;
Managing government accounts and the United States public debt;
Supervising national banks and thrift institutions;
Advising on domestic and international financial, monetary, economic, trade and tax policy (fiscal policy being the sum of these, and the ultimate responsibility of Congress);
Enforcing federal finance and tax laws;
Investigating and prosecuting tax evaders;
Publishing statistical reports.
Note the third duty of the Treasury;
""Paying all bills of the U.S.;""
Now STFU and go away with your torrent of lies and ignorance.
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You really have to be an idiot.

If you read the Constitution, only Congress can authorize the government to receive any money. The Treasury Department does not have the constitutional authority to invent money, or just print it without approval from Congress.

So, since the Treasury Department can't just turn the presses on and create money out of thin air and start spending it without Congress authorizing the expenditure, which may require authorizing additional debt, which will require A GODDAM SOURCE OF MONEY so that there is actually real money to spend, the question still remains unanswered.
What you wrote is analogous to saying money will grow on trees.

You have to identify an actual source of money to answer the question. An example of a source of money is, for example, every crackhead in the country will have to pay a 10 dollar tax every time they hit a crack pipe. Another example is, every burglar stealing stuff from everyone in the urban blight zone they live in will have to pay 10 dollars for every house they break into.
Those are examples of A SOURCE OF MONEY.
Rolling the presses counterfeiting money isn't a source of money.

So, where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
Truth is no SIN

Bronx, NY

#855088 Feb 6, 2013
The one-drop rule first appeared in popular literature inside novels and plays about “passing for white.” This is because the concept of “passing for white” is an inseparable aspect of the one-drop rule.(Cultures that lack a one-drop rule lack the concept of “passing for white.” The very notion of “passing for white” depends on acceptance of the ODR, and so it is unintelligible to New World inhabitants raised outside of the United States.)“Passing” literature refers to novels, plays, or short stories in which a European-looking character pretends to be a member of the White endogamous group but is “really” on the Black side of the color line.All three elements are essential: (1) Some African ancestry, (2) predominantly European appearance, and (3) pretense or concealment.Stories about European slaves were not uncommon, even before the Reformation. But unless the character actually has some recent African ancestry, such stories are not of interest here.Similarly, an African slave who wears a mask or otherwise disguises as European-looking in order escape captivity does not fall within our scope; only characters who really are genetically European.Finally, the tale of a European who is accepted without pretense or concealment as fully European, even though everyone around knows of the person’s publicly acknowledged African ancestry is not a tale of passing in this context.“Passing” literature exists only in markets that accept the ODR. Cultures where a European-looking person with an African-looking grandparent is considered legitimately White, lack passing literature because they lack the concept of invisible Blackness.The earliest fictional use of the “passing” concept was in the French novel Marie; ou, L’Esclavage aux États-Unis [Marie; or, Slavery in the United States] (Paris: 1835) by Gustave de Beaumont. It is apparently the first passing novel ever published. Its narrator, Ludovic, falls in love with the title character, who turns out to have a touch of African ancestry through her Louisiana Colored Creole grandparent. The novel describes the racial intolerance of the North with such lines as:“Public opinion, ordinarily so indulgent to fortune-seekers who conceal their names and previous lives, is pitiless in its search for proofs of African descent…. There is but one crime, of which the guilty bear everywhere the penalty and the infamy; it is that of belonging to a family reputed to be of color.—Though the color may be effaced, the stigma remains. It seems as if men could guess it, when they could no longer see it. There is no asylum so secret, no retreat so secure as to conceal it.”The novel is interesting because the author does not agree with his own characters. The characters are immersed in a society that brutally enforces the one-drop rule.
Homer 2016

Bethlehem, PA

#855089 Feb 6, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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I have a feeling some of these people are stumped by shoelaces.
Sandals, the official shoe of the rightwinger.
Homer 2016

Bethlehem, PA

#855090 Feb 6, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Our government manipulates Wall Street everyday, so does China's. You ass.
Go easy on him, he picked the 49ers.

Level 1

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#855091 Feb 6, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Liberals are the ones who want Al Jazeera to have a voice in the American media. Go ask Al Gore what his problem is.
So now Al Jazeera is what, a terrorist organization?

Here I thought you right whiners were all about freedom & now you bitch because Al Gore sold his company to whomever he wanted.
Debils Magic Penis

Orlando, FL

#855092 Feb 6, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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How much US public debt does China own?
About a trillion dollars. The same amount the US spent to save the banks and Wall Street firms teetering on the edge of extinction. About 1/4 of what the US spent to mishandle and lose two specious "wars" for profit. there's no "middle ground," we just need to finish now what General Sherman started 150 years ago.

The southern states have always only existed as profit centers for a few greedy planters, no one will miss them. Take their guns, ravish their women, burn their "churches," and let's get on with things.


Level 8

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#855093 Feb 6, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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How much US public debt does China own?
About a trillion dollars I believe.
Truth is no SIN

Bronx, NY

#855094 Feb 6, 2013
The author, on the other hand, sees the notion to be an inexplicable Americanism.Marie’s characters are shown as struggling for acceptance, not as engaging in malicious pretense. The novel was written by a Frenchman and published in France for a French readership. Its tone is, “look at the bizarre customs of those strange Americans.”Nevertheless, Marie is important because it is the first literary indication that a unique and unprecedented social ideology, the one-drop rule, had recently arisen in the United States. That a Frenchman first recorded it in fiction is a curiosity.The first two American-written novels about passing are Clotel; or, The President’s Daughter: A Narrative of Slave Life in the United States (1853) by William Wells Brown and The Garies and Their Friends (1857) by Frank J. Webb.William Wells Brown was a former slave and an established author who had published the autobiographical Narrative of William Wells Brown, a Fugitive Slave in 1847. Frank J. Webb, a freeborn African-American, was a newcomer to the reading public.Clotel is about slavery. Its protagonist (Thomas Jefferson’s slave daughter) escapes captivity, passes for White in the North, but then returns to the South to rescue her own daughter and dies in the attempt. Most of the novel does not focus upon the pretense of Whiteness, but is instead a pastiche of slave tales culled from the author’s own experiences, hearsay, journalism, and other fiction.Clotel lacks the unity customary to novels and seems disjointed to the modern reader. Nevertheless, it is the first known piece of literature depicting a society that considers Blackness to be an intangible trait.It is the first to portray people (both Black and White) who believe that a European-looking person of undetectable African ancestry is a member of the Black “racial” group nonetheless. The book’s market success shows that most readers agreed.The Garies and Their Friends is about life in freedom in the North, not about slavery in the South. Although it abounds in sub-plots (more than are customary in most modern novels), it is more tightly written than Clotel.It focuses on passing by its title couple. Its sub-plots show different forms of passing (accidental, deliberate, ignorance, etc.). Although it came out four years after Clotel, most scholars today credit it with inventing the literary theme of passing.Clotel and The Garies and Their Friends are similar in that they were the first successful novels published by African-Americans, and yet they are almost universally ignored in Black studies departments today.This is because their ideology is repellent to modern African-Americans. None of the characters who engage in passing in these two novels feels any guilt or remorse for the act.Some (usually delicate Victorian females like Clotel herself) sincerely want to be accepted as White. Others (usually defiant self-sacrificing Victorian men) consider it a justified deceit upon an unjust society.

Deltona, FL

#855095 Feb 6, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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You didn't post any link.
I had this one laying around maybe that will help whoever was talking about military simulation games spilling over into real life and vice versa.
History 101

Orlando, FL

#855096 Feb 6, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Bush was actually still President in 2007 & 2008.
Bush left office with the debt at 10.8 trillion.
Are you forgetting 9/11? what about the children that died in the Pentagon and Oklahoma City? How di you imagine Bush was going to keep us safe from terror? By funding more welfare babies?

It's a well known fact that without the two wars and the foundation of the Department of Homeland Security the United State would be the most prosperous nation on earth right now. He was just doing what he thought was right.
Truth is no SIN

Bronx, NY

#855097 Feb 6, 2013
Homer 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>Sandals, the official shoe of the rightwinger.
No IT's THE VACATION SPOT of CHOICE NO EBT CARDS ACCEPTED THERE it's a resort not a project or section 8 the army code for crazy

Indianapolis, IN

#855098 Feb 6, 2013
Karl Rove defends super PAC, cites Todd Akin

Karl Rove roared back Tuesday night against tea party critics within his party who say his super PAC’s new initiative is aimed at undermining their candidates during Republican primaries.

“Some people think the best we can do is Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock — they’re wrong. We need to do better if we hope to take over the United States Senate. We need to get better conservative candidates and win,” Rove, a former White House adviser to President George W. Bush, said on Fox News.

Read more:
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#855099 Feb 6, 2013
What will Obama and the Democrats say if the Republicans go along with what the Democrats have always wanted, which is massive cuts in defense spending?

Of course, these cuts would be to reduce the deficit, not to piss away the money elsewhere.
History 101

Orlando, FL

#855100 Feb 6, 2013
I for one would not vote for a black man again. We have seen over and over that they are not fit to lead, only play basketball and baseball. Who disagrees with what's right in front of their noses?

Indianapolis, IN

#855101 Feb 6, 2013
Eric Cantor's plan for Republican rebirth crashes and burns in less than 24 hours

On Tuesday, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor kicked off yet another one of his efforts to reinvent the Republican Party, telling fellow Republicans that budget issues are important, but that it is time for the GOP to start talking about other things.

....I'd like to focus our attention on what lies beyond these fiscal debates. Over the next two years, the House Majority will pursue an agenda based on a shared vision of creating the conditions for health, happiness and prosperity for more Americans and their families. And to restrain Washington from interfering in those pursuits....

That actually made some sense: Republicans really do need to move on from being the party that doesn't want to do anything but cut spending. But that was Tuesday. Now it's Wednesday and:

Today, the House will vote to require the President to put forward his plan to balance the budget.#RequireAPlan
—@GOPLeader via web

Heckuva rebirth you got going on there, Eric. It was nice while it lasted, I guess.

“It's always darkest 'fore dawn”

Level 5

Since: Jul 08

When's dawn?

#855102 Feb 6, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Yesterday she claimed to be a Yale grad!!!
Waxturds, Dumbya, and now Methmouth! If it weren't for Bill, Hillary, and John Kerry, they probably would have shut it down by now...wait, flack will be receiving his honorary PhD. in fortune telling from them any time now...'course, it might just be from the lock company.

“The Intrepid”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#855103 Feb 6, 2013
Truth is no SIN wrote:
Until the 1830s, such accounts invariably referred to “white” slaves in the American South. Before then, none used terms like “white-looking” slaves. But by 1840 travelers’ accounts had shifted to the modern form of expression.
That “white-looking” is the current form of expression is indisputable. With one exception, every textbook or monograph, published since the turn of the twentieth century refers to “white-looking” slaves.Few modern authors can bring themselves to state the obvious fact that many thousands of White people (by the usage of the time) were enslaved in the antebellum South. Today’s academic canon is that they were merely “white-looking”(whatever that means).[The exception is Lawrence Raymond Tenzer, The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War: A New Look at the Slavery Issue (Manahawkin NJ: Scholars' Pub. House, 1997).]But such anachronistic backwards-projection of today’s ODR was not the case before 1830. John Ferdinand Dalziel Smyth who toured the South in the 1770s wrote about “female slaves who are now become white by their mixture.”Jacques Pierre Brissot de Warville in 1788 reported a “white boy” in a Philadelphia school for Negro children. Dr. Jesse Torrey in 1817 wrote about “a decently dressed white man” who was also a slave.
In 1839, reverend Francis Hawley of Connecticut wrote,“It is so common for the female slaves to have white children, that little or nothing is ever said about it.” No account before 1830 has yet turned up that employs modern (“white-looking”) terminology.The change in paradigm from “white” to “white-looking” apparently took less than a decade. In 1837, Captain Frederick Marryat wrote that “said boy is in a manner white, would be passed by and taken for a white man.”The following advertisements for runaways tell the same story. Take into account that the descriptions in these ads are the most accurate that the unhappy owners could produce. They wanted their valuable property found and returned, after all. 1.[$100 reward will be given for my man, Edmund Kenny. He has straight hair, and a complexion so white that it is believed a stranger would suppose there was no African blood in him. A short time since, he was in Norfolk with my boy Dick, and offered him for sale. He was apprehended but escaped under pretense of being a white man.— Anderson Bowles, The Richmond Whig, Va. Jan. 6, 1836.] 2.[$10 reward for the apprehension of William Dubberly, a slave belonging to the estate of Sacker Dubberly, deceased. He is about nineteen years old, quite white, and would not be readily taken for a slave.— John J. Lane, The Newbern Spectator, N.C., March 13, 1837.]3.[Runaway from the subscriber, a bright slave named Sam; light sandy hair, blue eyes, ruddy complexion. He is so white as to pass easily for a white man.— Edwin Peck, Mobile Ala., April 22, 1837.]4.[Runaway, a bright woman, named Julia, about twenty-five years old. She is white and very likely may attempt to pass for white. She is a good seamstress, dresses fine, and can read a little.$200 reward, if caught in any Free State and put into any good jail in Kentucky or Tennessee.— A.W. Johnson. The Republican Banner and The Nashville Whig, Tenn. July 14, 1840.]5.[Runaway from me, a woman named Fanny. She is as white as most white women; with straight light hair and blue eyes, and can pass herself for a white woman. She is very intelligent; can read and write, and so forge passes for herself. She is very pious, prays a good deal, and was, as supposed, contented and happy. I will give $500 for her delivery to me.— John Balch, Tuscaloosa Alabama, May 20, 1845.]6.
Why not deal with the "here and now" and not crap that happened over a hundred years ago?

Level 1

Since: May 11

Loysville, PA

#855104 Feb 6, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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None of those strikes were targeted assassinations of American citizens, which makes a difference.
I posted it to show the drones were utilized under President Bush & many civilians were also killed in the process.

You f*cking loons act as though this is some Obama came up with.

As far as targeting American citizens by the government, it happens all the time.

If a US citizen is threatening to do harm/ has done harm to people & they can not be captured to prevent further harm, then they are killed or wounded.

The police do it all the time.

We have the cleric go & join terrorists & actively recruit suicide bombers to attack US assets.

You take him out if you can because invading Yemen to try to capture is too risky.

If a US citizen joined the Taliban & was attacking US forces, I guess you would jump up & say " Stop, you can't shoot that attacker - he is a US citizen. OMG OMG OMG". Yep, I guess, according to you, we should just allow him to kill as many soldiers as possible until we can capture him & put him on trial.

The same with the sniper in the clock tower.
Truth is no SIN

Bronx, NY

#855105 Feb 6, 2013
Now let us look at court cases.
“Racial” Classification Court Cases
In May of 1834, Ohio residents Mr. and Mrs. Williams tried to enroll their five White-looking children in the District 6 public school. They were turned away because the law demanded racially segregated schools.Although the children’s mother was White, the father admitted to having an imperceptible trace of Negro ancestry. The Williams couple sued the school board in Williams v. School District, 1834 Ohio.The trial went to the heart of the issue. Were the Williams children members of the Black “racial” group because their father had slight African ancestry? Or were they White based upon the traditional rules: appearance, blood fraction, and association?The school board advocated a one-drop rule of invisible Blackness. The children’s records showed that they had African blood, they argued, and so they should be ruled to be Black even though they did not look it.The Williams family lawyer argued in favor of an appearance-based view of color line positioning. The children should be ruled White because, physically speaking, they “really were White,” even though their father was probably not.The judge ruled in favor of the rule of physical appearance. The children were White because they looked White. The court awarded damages to be paid to the Williams family and ordered the school board to admit their children.In fact, the decision was far from inevitable, and the case could easily have gone either way. The judge ruled against the school board partly because they,“had the shabby meanness to ask from [Mr. Williams] his contribution of tax, and [then turn around and] exclude his children from the benefit of the schools he helped to support.” Had the members of District 6 School Board had the sense to exempt the family from school taxes first, in order to exclude the children, as did the schools of the time in Connecticut, the court might well have ruled in their favor.The defendants in this case argued that one could look European (as did the Williams children) yet be a member of the Black “racial” group nonetheless. As it turned out, the judge did not agree with the argument and he did not impose a one-drop rule. But the case is still important because Williams v. School District, 1834 Ohio was the very first time that a one-drop rule was seriously argued in a U.S. court of law.Incredibly, this watershed case happened just three years after Gray v. Ohio, 1831, the robbery conviction case that opened this topic. Recall that in Gray v. Ohio, the state prosecutor allowed a convicted felon to go free rather than argue that the female robber was “really” Black due to her acknowledged trace of African ancestry.Nevertheless, although the change was abrupt, there would be no turning back. Just three years later, across the Ohio river in Kentucky, in Gentry v. McMinnis, 1835, a lawyer argued (again unsuccessfully) in favor of invisible Blackness.

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