Barack Obama, our next President

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Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#839033 Jan 14, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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The two are the same event, dumbass.
lol! That's what I figured son.

You look at the surface and think you know what's going on.

Good for you son. You can read a book. Compared to some other idiots here, you're ahead of the curve!
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#839034 Jan 14, 2013
lol wrote:
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Oh, not so. There is the opium production, drug routes and oil pipeline routes (and natural resources) that they have secured and want to keep.
Not 'winnable', and sustainable, I'd agree. Being there at all was folly. But staying there is pure folly. But stay we will. For the obvious reasons.
We went to Iraq for nothing but to secure the oil for big mega corporations.
Mission accomplished.
Actually, now that you mention it, that part of the world is rich in rare earth minerals.

So from an economic standpoint, it is of strategic importance.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#839035 Jan 14, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
Let's begin with the unfinished business of last week. There were two questions asked that nobody in the world has been able to answer, and nobody here on this site has answered. The closest anyone came to answering these questions was some link that gave a bunch of no-answers as to the location of Obama, and some other idiot gave the answer of the Treasury as a source of money.
Still, nobody knows where Obama was during the 7-hour battle between the United States and Al Qaeda, and still nobody knows where the money will come from to pay for Obama's government.
The Treasure isn't a source of money. The Treasury is a repository. Additionally, the Treasury is 16.5 TRILLION dollars in debt. There isn't any money there, anyway.
So, let's begin with the questions:
Where exactly was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the United States in Banghazi while the battle was being watched on a live feed in the White House?
And;
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
I'll be out of the ocuntry for a week or so, maybe only 5 days if everything goes well. I'll check the homework of you ignorant clowns when I get back. You ignorant Democrats, try not to fuck things up too much while the grownups are away.
Since you're the only one interested, when you find out, let us know!
carol

Orlando, FL

#839036 Jan 14, 2013
lol wrote:
Former Adviser: Obama as 'Ruthless and Indifferent to Rule of Law' as Bush
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/01/...
Americans 'unaware of the scale of the drone program ... and the destruction it has caused in their name'
A former security adviser for Barack Obama now says the Pentagon's targeted drone program is counter-productive, is "encouraging a new arms race," and has killed far more civilians than has been acknowledged.
Most of us are very much aware of the accelerated use of drones by this president.

It's the Obama Team Cheerleaders who want to keep it a big secret.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#839037 Jan 14, 2013
AmericanMan wrote:
<quoted text>I seriously wonder if McCain were in charge if the US would still be in Vietnam. 54,000 Dead for nothing and you Repubs want to stay in Afghanistan just like McCain said for another 100 years. Those that did not learn from history allowed 4000 Dead troops while looking for WMDs that were never there.
Here! Here!
carol

Orlando, FL

#839038 Jan 14, 2013
forks_make_us_fat wrote:
<quoted text>
Because I said so!
It's his fault because he's the president and he lied to you, dumbass.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#839039 Jan 14, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
For the ignorant dupes here, you being the leading candidate, Bush never signed an executive order giving instructions outside the Executive Branch of government. It never happened.
If you disagree, reference the executive order and provide the text within that is the instructions to entities or elements outside the Executive Branch of government.
... got a problem with that, don't you? That's because it never happened.
What you clowns are trying to do is institute a fascist dictatorship where the furher Obama can write his own laws to suit his whim.
Ain't gonna happen.
Now, how about you giving us the text of those executive orders that you mentioned, and tell us how they violated existing laws and/or the Constitution,...
thus giving Obama the ability to write executive orders violating existing laws and the Constitution.
No American citizen is obligated to obey any command/instruction/requiremen t/restriction from the government that isn't issued in the form of a law passed in accordance with the Constitution. The president is prohibited by the Constitution from issuing edicts to the population. That's the type of tyranical government we fought a war to free ourselves from. You'll have to fight and win a war to take that away from the American people. They've become used to the idea of not being anyone's subjects. They like limited government, and don't like the fascist dictatorship you Democrats have in mind for them.
When Obama signs an executive order writing his own whim into law, it won't be worth the paper it is written on, because....
No American citizen is obligated to obey any command/instruction/requiremen t/restriction from the government that isn't issued in the form of a law passed in accordance with the Constitution.
You first have to eliminate the Constitution and install a fascist dictatorship to make that happen.
lol! "...What you clowns are trying to do is institute a fascist dictatorship where the furher Obama can write his own laws to suit his whim...."

You're such a political dupe! In one sentence you claim bushie never did it and there's no proof, and in the next you claim Obama's won't work, even if there isn't any proof as well!

You're so screwed up you mix your personal opinionated politics with facts and you believe the entire slop because it makes you feel good.

What comical loons right wing extremists are!
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#839040 Jan 14, 2013
AmericanMan wrote:
Bush's Surveillance Program, the NSA was authorized by executive order to monitor, without search warrants, the phone calls, Internet activity (Web, e-mail, etc.), text messaging, and other communication.
Can anyone imagine the Repub outrage and DBs post had this came from Obama? The Repubs would have been typing as fast as possible talking about Freedom and Rights and Communist and every other "ism" they could have come up with.
Here! Here! Excellent read!
carol

Orlando, FL

#839041 Jan 14, 2013
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>
Really??
Let's hear your definition of 'the American way of life'??
Based on your posts, you harbor hatred for all other Americans, teachers, cops, firemen, union members (which all of the aforementioned are), bankers, WalMart workers, blacks, hispanics, women, asians, etc., etc., etc.
So your definition is for all others in America to suffer, while you keep colecting your Social Security and Medicare??
Not prudent, son. Not gonna happen, son.
Good news is you'll be dead soon.
You seem to think Social Security and Medicare are sustainable. Republicans want to reform both so they will still be viable programs for those 50 and under down the road.

This adminstration wants the easily fooled to believe the status quo is perfectly acceptable. You, for instance.

Liberals are the guilty ones when it comes to changing the "American Way of Life". They want Obama to fundamentally change it until it's totally unrecognizable.

Open your eyes.

Level 1

Since: Nov 09

Pharr, TX

#839042 Jan 14, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
NRA Reaps Profits From the Internet Ammo Sales It Made Possible
Today the NRA receives millions of dollars from online sales of ammunition, high-capacity ammunition magazines, and other accessories through the Round-Up Program, created by top NRA benefactor Larry Potterfield. Potterfield is founder and head of MidwayUSA, which claims to stock "[j]ust about everything for shooting, reloading, gunsmithing and hunting," including ammunition and high-capacity ammunition magazines. The Round-Up Program encourages buyers to "round-up" their purchase to the nearest dollar with the difference going to the NRA.
Potterfield credits McClure-Volkmer with helping make his financial fortune possible, stating on the company's website:
By 1987, we were doing about $5 million in business, selling mostly to dealers. The product lines were bulk components and cartridge boxes. The Volkmer-McClure [sic] law was enacted in October 1987, which removed the restriction of shipping brass and bullets to FFL holders only. Midway immediately began selling directly to consumers, in addition to selling to dealers.
The NRA's lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) has received nearly $9.3 million dollars from the Round-Up Program. On its website, MidwayUSA states that Round-Up Program contributions from the company total nearly $7.2 million since 1992. Total Round-Up contributions (MidwayUSA's and those of other companies participating in the Round-Up Program) to the NRA are nearly $9.3 million.(One mass shooter who took part in the NRA's Round-Up Program through MidwayUSA was concealed carry permit holder George Sodini, who in August 2009 opened fire at an LA Fitness Center in Collier, Pennsylvania, killing three women and wounding nine others before turning the gun on himself and taking his own life.)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/...
I have to admit that for years I was an NRA member but finally realized they weren't representing me and quit. Many of my hunting friends are starting to see how they are being manipulated and at least aren't voting for NRA puppets. The NRA has become just like the Republican party, taken over by wealthy right wing fanatics.
Lincoln

United States

#839043 Jan 14, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of us are very much aware of the accelerated use of drones by this president.
It's the Obama Team Cheerleaders who want to keep it a big secret.
Drones used by Bush as well, topic on every newspaper!

It is no secret.
Abortion issue dividing you from John Galt?

Rep. Phil Gingrey’s attempts to explain Todd Akin’s rape remarks are leaving many Republicans beyond frustrated that a few in their party can’t help but insert rape into the already contentious abortion debate.

“This is actually pretty simple. If you’re about to talk about rape as anything other than a brutal and horrible crime, stop,” said Republican strategist Kevin Madden, who was a senior adviser in Mitt Romney’s campaign.

On Thursday, the Georgia Republican didn’t heed that advice, telling a local Chamber of Commerce breakfast that Akin was “partially right” when he said last year that a woman can stop herself from getting pregnant.
“We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating,‘Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don’t be so tense and uptight because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate,’” Gingrey said.
He also said that Akin’s definition of a “non-legitimate rape” could be “a scared-to-death 15-year-old that becomes impregnated by her boyfriend and then has to tell her parents.”
The comments were reported by the Marietta Daily Journal. Gingrey later said that he wasn’t trying to defend remarks by Akin or Indiana Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, and that his position was misconstrued “in my attempt to provide context as to what I presumed they meant.”
But Gingrey’s lengthy explanation of what Akin meant was quickly circulated by Democrats, repudiated by medical groups, and had some Republicans smacking their heads in frustration.

And it may have added new urgency to a training program that’s already being launched by an anti-abortion group — the Susan B. Anthony list — to keep candidates and lawmakers from continually making the same kind of comments that may have helped ruin Republicans’ chances of winning the Senate.
Former Rep. Mary Bono Mack (R-Calif.) questioned why Gingrey was talking about the months-old comment in the first place.
“There’s no way to defend what Todd Akin said,” Bono Mack said.“You just can’t do it and you shouldn’t try to put it into a scientific context. It was a bad statement. And to try to defend it or explain someone else’s poor choice of words, it would be a fool’s errand.”
Bono Mack, who was first elected in 1998 but lost her reelection this fall, said some House Republicans don’t understand the full range of emotions associated with the abortion debate.
“It was my belief when I was in the Congress, and I tried to explain this to my colleagues: The abortion issue isn’t just about abortion. It’s about so much more. It’s about delving into what it means to women and what it means to Americans,” she said. For women, it means “a loss of autonomy. To Americans, it means government intrusion into their lives.”

Susan B. Anthony List President Marjorie Dannenfelser said the lawmakers are falling for a trap set by proponents of abortion rights who want to focus the debate on extremes such as rape instead of other abortions.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#839044 Jan 14, 2013
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of us are very much aware of the accelerated use of drones by this president.
It's the Obama Team Cheerleaders who want to keep it a big secret.
What Bush's Iraq War and Obama's Drone Strikes Have in Common

An opportunity to kill bad guys can blind presidents and their supporters to the costs and unintended consequences of their actions.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...
carol

Orlando, FL

#839045 Jan 14, 2013
Nuculur option wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong.
Bush's complete destruction of the American economy forced Americans onto food stamps, as Bush and Rmoney exported American jobs by the hundreds of thousands.
That was the deal Bush made with China;
You loan us money for the wars, we'll export our fsactory jobs to you.
In this, Bush laid the foundations for the collapse, which happened on his watch!!
DEal with it, ya freakin' loser!!
And you wonder why most Americans still hold Bush responsible for th eDepression he created.
So what do you think about the accelerated use of drones under this president and the negative reaction and connotation of their overuse around the world?
TSM

El Paso, TX

#839046 Jan 14, 2013
The President going to have a Press Conference, I’m smiling, will he remind the Press Core they voted for him before taking questions, no need the questions have been Pre-Approve by the WH!!
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#839047 Jan 14, 2013
carol wrote:
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Republicans aren't perfect. Never claimed to be. Even if they don't have all the answers and there may be some truth in what you said - the ugly side of politics has to take a back seat when it comes down to the only two choices we have.
Otherwise, you become like Tenzing - wanting something that simply doesn't exist and then picking and choosing which side to root for. In his case, the worst of the two.
At least you aren't going in that direction.
lol! This coming from a con? Aren't you people the ones who threw Chis Chistie under the bus for helping is state?

Even Boehner refused to help until he got his arm twisted.

What a bunch of stupid, political hypocrites cons are!
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#839048 Jan 14, 2013
While GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney won’t go the record about the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba detention facility, at the third presidential debate he did indicate he would continue President Obama’s controversial drone strike program against alleged terrorist suspects.

The debate moderator, CBS News Bob Schieffer framed the question this way; “What is your position on the use of drones?"

“I support that (drone strikes) entirely and think the president was right to use that technology,” Romney said at the foreign policy debate.

http://www.examiner.com/article/romney-ratifi...

Mitt would be doing the same thing. probably more of.

try harder you failing nutjobs.
carol

Orlando, FL

#839049 Jan 14, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Yes. iraq was invaded for no reason at all. Afghanistan was invaded for a specific reason.
If there was any military effort I applaud bushie on, it was Afghanistan.
Iraq is only of strategic importance if the US can maintain a presence there. But that's still no reason for the invasion.
Russia can even tell you Afghanistan is an "unwinnable war".

Why is Obama the only one who thinks it's still the "right war"?

“Amor patriae.”

Level 5

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#839050 Jan 14, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
You assume that Obama is a decent and rational person, not a vengeful ideologue.
I'm not sure how you'd make that assumption. He may have decency in a relative way but rationality is nowhere to be found.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#839051 Jan 14, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
that had nothing to do with F&F.
so the point was....plenty of guns make their way to Mexico 'legally'. with no help from anyone but the general public.
Aside from the AZ gun and pawn shops Crossroads of the West Gun Shows and others hold dozens of events each year in that loophole state.

Guns are biz in AZ__the sellers know where the weapons are going and don't really give a shyte.
carol

Orlando, FL

#839052 Jan 14, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
What Bush's Iraq War and Obama's Drone Strikes Have in Common
An opportunity to kill bad guys can blind presidents and their supporters to the costs and unintended consequences of their actions.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...
At least you admit Obama is following in Bush's footsteps when it comes to war strategies and foreign policy.

But Iraq is no longer an issue and the media rarely reports any news on Obama's wars. That's the difference.

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