Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Atmore Al

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Looks like waxturd/goober and the kids are done watching Sunday morning cartoons. We'll have to wait until they take a nap to continue the adult conversation.
Well, I guess that eliminates you; now you can go to Rev. Wright's church and worship Obama without missing any information for the next 20 years.

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Don't know, don't care; it wasn't my day to watch him.
The Treasury.
See? Not so hard.
I believe your first answer. You don't care if Obama is just a cardboard cutout of a commercial to make it appear as if someone's actually president, when the truth is Obama isn't in charge of anything and doesn't have a clue what's happening in government. He's just a prop for dupes.

And, correct me if this is wrong, but the Treasury is 16.5 trillion dollars in debt and doesn't have any money.

So, the question remains:

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

The Treasury can't generate money and is 16.5 trillion dollars in debt. You actually have to identify a source of money.

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
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hey judge it idiot. change it up once in while. your self gratification is showing.

uber-strong personality eh?

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sure. shut down the House. if only an EO was possible....
that would fix most of it.
Well, dufus, an executive order isn't possible as long as the Constitution defines our government. An executive order is limited solely to the Executive Branch of government.
However, Obama intends to install a fascist dictatorship where he can write his own laws to suit his whim.

How do you feel about that?
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White House Philosophy Stoked Mortgage Bonfire

Armando Falcon Jr. was preparing to take on a couple of giants.

A soft-spoken Texan, Mr. Falcon ran the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, a tiny government agency that oversaw Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two pillars of the American housing industry. In February 2003, he was finishing a blockbuster report that warned the pillars could crumble.

Created by Congress, Fannie and Freddie — called G.S.E.’s, for government-sponsored entities — bought trillions of dollars’ worth of mortgages to hold or sell to investors as guaranteed securities. The companies were also Washington powerhouses, stuffing lawmakers’ campaign coffers and hiring bare-knuckled lobbyists.

Mr. Falcon’s report outlined a worst-case situation in which Fannie and Freddie could default on debt, setting off “contagious illiquidity in the market”— in other words, a financial meltdown. He also raised red flags about the companies’ soaring use of derivatives, the complex financial instruments that economic experts now blame for spreading the housing collapse.

Today, the White House cites that report — and its subsequent effort to better regulate Fannie and Freddie — as evidence that it foresaw the crisis and tried to avert it. Bush officials recently wrote up a talking points memo headlined “G.S.E.’s — We Told You So.”

But the back story is more complicated. To begin with, on the day Mr. Falcon issued his report, the White House tried to fire him.

At the time, Fannie and Freddie were allies in the president’s quest to drive up homeownership rates; Franklin D. Raines, then Fannie’s chief executive, has fond memories of visiting Mr. Bush in the Oval Office and flying aboard Air Force One to a housing event.“They loved us,” he said.

So when Mr. Falcon refused to deep-six his report, Mr. Raines took his complaints to top Treasury officials and the White House.“I’m going to do what I need to do to defend my company and my position,” Mr. Raines told Mr. Falcon.

Days later, as Mr. Falcon was in New York preparing to deliver a speech about his findings, his cellphone rang. It was the White House personnel office, he said, telling him he was about to be unemployed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/21...
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Well, dufus, an executive order isn't possible as long as the Constitution defines our government. An executive order is limited solely to the Executive Branch of government.
However, Obama intends to install a fascist dictatorship where he can write his own laws to suit his whim.
How do you feel about that?
how do i feel about nutjobs spouting the same failed crap from 4 years ago?

i pretty much just get uncontrollable giggles. like most people.

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hanging on whilst ignoring who interprets the Constitution.
and what they have to say about assault weapons is not what he wants to hear.
kinda like what they had to say about abortion.
The core principle of the Constitution, and one of its most brilliant aspects is, it is written so the average person can easily read and understand it. It doesn't need interpretation. It only needs enforcement.
If the Supreme Court says the sky is green, the sky doesn't change color tomorrow. It stays blue. Perhaps Obama will write an executive order changing the definition of "green" and "blue" to make it look like the sky submited to the all-powerful dictatorship. But, that may depend on what the definition of "is" is.

It's obvious the Supreme Court is schizophrenic.
There exists a ruling that any law that is vague or to complex to be understood by the average person is unconstitutional.
How's this for an example of that:

The members of Congress that actually wrote the ObamaKare law stated that their intent was a "penalty" written in the law.
The members of the Supreme Court read the exact same text and concluded that there was a "tax" written in the law.

Now, how on Earth can anyone say this law doesn't fit the requirement of the Supreme Court decision that any law that is vague is unconstitutional?
The authors say "penalty".
The Supreme Court reads that very same law and says "tax".

That is the very definition of vague.

This is just one of the many reasons ObamaKare is unconstitutional.

Since it's so obvious this law is unconstitutional, why is our Supreme Court so disfunctional it can't see this obvious fact?
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I believe your first answer. You don't care if Obama is just a cardboard cutout of a commercial to make it appear as if someone's actually president, when the truth is Obama isn't in charge of anything and doesn't have a clue what's happening in government. He's just a prop for dupes.
And, correct me if this is wrong, but the Treasury is 16.5 trillion dollars in debt and doesn't have any money.
So, the question remains:
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
The Treasury can't generate money and is 16.5 trillion dollars in debt. You actually have to identify a source of money.
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
You kinda like a broken record ain't you? Everybody in here answer you answers but you still here beatin' the drum cause you not get the answers you want? Man say, "Not my job to watch the Pres." An' then you say, "Yeah but who's watchin' the Pres?" Man say, "The Treasury." An then you say, "No, the Treasury cain't do it." So here's the thing o rhetorical master: Answer you own fuckin' "questions." That's the problem with engineers: they stoopid.

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how do i feel about nutjobs spouting the same failed crap from 4 years ago?
i pretty much just get uncontrollable giggles. like most people.
The subject you're running away from concerns the limit of authority of an executive order.
An executive order has no authority outside the Executive Branch of government. You have to first eliminate the Constitution from government to extend the authority of an execitive order beyond the Executive Branch of government.

Now, try again. This time, stay on topic and answer the post.

Well, dufus, an executive order isn't possible as long as the Constitution defines our government. An executive order is limited solely to the Executive Branch of government.
However, Obama intends to install a fascist dictatorship where he can write his own laws to suit his whim.
How do you feel about that?

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Banks were not forced to make loans to peple who culd not pay it back.
This is a lie.
BS Davey Boie, I have a relative that works in the Banking & Loan industry, Freeloaders were encouraged to apply. This fiasco is so far above your sophomoric education you will never understand..
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Sides, when you get to aroun' a trillion dollars or mo, you no longer "in" debt, you jus' an investment vehicle. When clowns like you start bangin' the debt drum it assumes that no one will notice that in order to be "in debt" you need to "owe" somebody. So to whom do "we" "owe" 16.5 trillion dollars? The suggestion has been made of late - tongue in cheek - to just print a few 1 trillion dollar coins. But I have a much better and mo' efficient idea.
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Here, try this: everybody join hands... if you want you can hol' my pecker cause you not likely to see another one like this - an' we all say together.. "BY THE GREAT GOD JEHOVAHOWITZ, AS OF TODAY... AMERICA NO LONGER OWES ANYBODY ANYTHING! WE WILL BE DISTRIBUTING BOXES OF GLASS BEADS OUT IN THE LOBBY SHORTLY, PLEASE FILE OUT IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND GET YOURS, THANK YOU FOR COMING. Now, exactly who's gonna argue? ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION!!!!

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Glenn Beck Attempts a Laughable Make Over as a Libertarian
It took me a few days to stop laughing.
Glenn Beck is rebranding himself as–get this–the alternative to “far-right, far-left” polarized debates on cable news, dominated by people “yelling at each-other.”
“We're not going to play in that crazy space as a network," he announced earnestly.
The irony meter just died. Hypocrisy and chutzpah had a child.
....Glenn Beck used his 15 minutes of fame to cast himself as King of the Wingnuts, eventually becoming too extreme for even Roger Ailes to put up with on FoxNews.
But Glenn Beck can read the tea leaves and the ratings. He can see that Sean Hannity’s viewers are tanking post-election. Rush Limbaugh’s audience is aging out of existence and advertisers are looking elsewhere. And so the man who once described himself as a “Rodeo Clown” decided it was time for a new disguise.
....In some ways, this new guise is clarifying because it definitively answers a lingering question about Beck–is he sincere in his beliefs or was his right-wing rhetoric just showmanship, part of a business plan to appeal to an agitated audience?
It was all just an opportunistic con job. And the dupes are the folks who bought into the shtick, carrying signs at Tea Party rallies that read “Glenn Beck is my hero.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01...
Neo-liberals took "liberal" now clowns like Beck are taking "libertarian". So much for the convenience of labels.

"Oh yeah, I'm a liberal but not an FDR/Johnson "liberal" so I'm a libertarian but not like Beck or Stossel so ..."
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sonicfilter wrote:
Glenn Beck Attempts a Laughable Make Over as a Libertarian
It took me a few days to stop laughing.
Glenn Beck is rebranding himself as–get this–the alternative to “far-right, far-left” polarized debates on cable news, dominated by people “yelling at each-other.”
“We're not going to play in that crazy space as a network," he announced earnestly.
The irony meter just died. Hypocrisy and chutzpah had a child.
....Glenn Beck used his 15 minutes of fame to cast himself as King of the Wingnuts, eventually becoming too extreme for even Roger Ailes to put up with on FoxNews.
But Glenn Beck can read the tea leaves and the ratings. He can see that Sean Hannity’s viewers are tanking post-election. Rush Limbaugh’s audience is aging out of existence and advertisers are looking elsewhere. And so the man who once described himself as a “Rodeo Clown” decided it was time for a new disguise.
....In some ways, this new guise is clarifying because it definitively answers a lingering question about Beck–is he sincere in his beliefs or was his right-wing rhetoric just showmanship, part of a business plan to appeal to an agitated audience?
It was all just an opportunistic con job. And the dupes are the folks who bought into the shtick, carrying signs at Tea Party rallies that read “Glenn Beck is my hero.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01...
LMAO, Carol and her new bff must have put up a thousand posts each proclaiming the genius of Glenda Beck.

Well, he said in 2010 that he was more interested in the entertainment end of politics than the news end.
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<quoted text>You are a hypocrite. Bush signed 291 EOs. Most were after 9/11 and most were about spying on the American public without court orders. Were you outraged back then??????????
He was white and republican
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My thought is that at exactly that moment the fundamental flaw in the Constitution will be revealed. The first line reads, "We the People..." and if "we the people" don't want to "owe" 16.5 trillion dollars to various nameless entities not enumerated in the Constitution then the vaunted document tells us clearly what to do about it.

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I believe your first answer. You don't care if Obama is just a cardboard cutout of a commercial to make it appear as if someone's actually president, when the truth is Obama isn't in charge of anything and doesn't have a clue what's happening in government. He's just a prop for dupes.
And, correct me if this is wrong, but the Treasury is 16.5 trillion dollars in debt and doesn't have any money.
So, the question remains:
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
The Treasury can't generate money and is 16.5 trillion dollars in debt. You actually have to identify a source of money.
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
Oh, you want more detail, Treasury gets the money from revenues including the sale of debt instruments.

You schizoidtards need to make up your alleged "minds", is he all powerful bent bringing fundamental change to the US or is he a weak puppet? You've asserted both positions today you schizophrenic little freak.

What do I think he is? I think he's the second coming of Bush and can't understand why you retards don't worship the man. The only real difference between him and Bush is skin color so ...
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"Well then," you say. "We'll never be able to get credit again after a thing like that!" To which I say, "It was credit that caused the problem in the first place." To which you reply, "Our entire system of government is based on capitalism and credit." To which I answer, "Not any more. From now on we pay cash. You don't like it? You take it up with my friend Lionel."
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DBWriter wrote:
Ah. Sunday morning. Let's go over the list of things not done this week and see if we can catch up on some things.
Looks like there were two questions that never got answered this week.
And it looks like the same fraud Democrats that ran away from these questions all week are here today.
Do any of you fascist Democrats have an answer to these questions nobody in the world has been able to answer:
Where was Obama during the 7-hour battle between Al Qaeda and the stripped-down security detatchment in Benghazi while the real-time video was being watched in the White House?
And;
Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
And a bonus question:
When will Obama formally declare a rebellion against the government of the United States and begin writing his own laws to suit his whim?
It is a little humorous that it was the Democrats that used the word "fascist" to insult everything they didn't like, and now it is those same Democrats attempting to replace the constitutional republic with a fascist dictatorship.
Db: short for dumb
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Death of Tenzing wrote:
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Oh, you want more detail, Treasury gets the money from revenues including the sale of debt instruments.
You schizoidtards need to make up your alleged "minds", is he all powerful bent bringing fundamental change to the US or is he a weak puppet? You've asserted both positions today you schizophrenic little freak.
What do I think he is? I think he's the second coming of Bush and can't understand why you retards don't worship the man. The only real difference between him and Bush is skin color so ...
Come on, you know he's going to enlist the black panthers to take their dicks, I meant guns away

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