Barack Obama, our next President

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#819546 Dec 10, 2012
killtaker wrote:
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How did Lenin and Co deal with their God/Jesus problem?
Imprisonment, and 're-education', for those who refused to forswear belief in a 'god', I believe.(I may be confusing the Soviets with the Chinese....)

What is your point?

Fishers, IN

#819547 Dec 10, 2012
Every Sparrow’s Fall

Here’s a piece of unsolicited advice for pro-life candidates who want to make the case for banning all abortions, without making exceptions for rape and incest: stop talking about the beautiful gift of life.

If you believe that life begins at conception, and that every life deserves a chance to live, and that therefore all abortion is murder, then it is entirely logical that there should be no exceptions to abolition. I don’t quibble with that logic.

But a “gift” is something given to someone. It’s not a fact; it’s a subjective relationship to a fact. So who is supposed to be the recipient of the “gift” of life in a case of rape or incest?

It’s not the baby. In the absence of said baby, there’s no prior entity to receive the gift of life. The baby itself is the life. Logically, then, the baby itself is the gift. Which means the recipient is either the woman, or creation at large.

That’s certainly the way it sounds when people say this, and that’s the reason this formulation sounds horrible to people not committed ideologically to the pro-life position. It makes the baby sound like a “silver lining” that makes the rape not so bad – like evidence that God’s providence was working behind even the most horrible scenes. Which isn’t remotely the way most women would perceive it.

Some might, of course. But those women, women capable of feeling love toward the product of violence upon their person, have achieved a kind of saintliness. And saintliness is, I think, to much to expect of ordinary mortals, and certainly too much for the legislature to demand.

And the position is a theological dodge anyway. God is the author of everything, or He is the author of nothing. If He is responsible for the baby, then He is responsible for the rape. Or, to put it somewhat differently, if you’re supposed to find a way to God through trauma, that way can’t be limited to finding some objectively “good” thing that God must have intended to come of it. Every moment of life, whatever happens in that moment, is a “precious gift”– if you take the idea of a “gift of life” seriously. And if God really is in any meaningful sense attentive to every sparrow’s fall, then He is addressing that sparrow’s subjective perspective; and if you’re going to present yourself as the voice of God on the subject it really behooves you to try your best to do the same.

Russellville, KY

#819548 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
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Santa came early to my house today - we finally bought our first flatscreen TV for a family Christmas present and it arrived this morning. I've been a little excited and distracted this evening. It's pretty awesome.
Maybe you can get that underpinning for your Birthday.

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Spokane, WA

#819549 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
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Palin isn't as dumb as liberals want to believe she is.
But I have to say I was glad that she faded out of the limelight a bit before the election as she is such a polarizing figure.
When she makes a television appearance now, I find she's much more engaging.
Sarah Palin is not dumb. She has backbone and says what needs to be said. I wish she had been more public during the recent election, stood up for what she believes in, not the wishy washy crap we saw all to often this past election.

Fishers, IN

#819550 Dec 10, 2012
gene the dancing machine wrote:
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And you think,that going to lower the National Debt !!
Thats like draining lake Michigan with a bucket line !!!
other considerations. like those that put Obama back in the WH.

and who can argue with that? the Party that wants to stay out of the WH for the next 20 years?

Fishers, IN

#819551 Dec 10, 2012
Hannity's Show Wishes Listeners "Happy Holidays" During Fox's Annual War On Christmas Charade
Lincoln Duncan

United States

#819552 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
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He wasn't perfect. No one ever said he was. Certainly, not me.
But he was a leader.
That's what we need now. Not perfection.
Republicans should have nominated a leader in 2012

Fishers, IN

#819553 Dec 10, 2012
The Real GOP Fiasco: Fairness

Bill Kristol, for once, is right. The Bush tax cuts for the rich have to go.

The election is barely over, but true to form, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner have already bungled the next one. Their line in the sand is exactly the wrong way to recast the GOP’s appeal to minorities, women, and working-class whites.

Look at the data. Exit polls showed that voters largely agreed that Romney was a “strong leader” and “had a vision for the future.” But as AEI’s Henry Olsen notes,“Romney lost because he lost among those who chose the remaining characteristic – by 63 points, 81-18. That characteristic? Cares about people like me.”(The exit polls do not include the nine million white voters who showed their opinion by not voting at all.)

Having lost two national elections in which the Bush tax cuts were at issue, the GOP Congressional leadership now seems determined to dig the ditch deeper.

The Republican Party can appeal to “Judeo-Christian values” as long as the sun shines and their voices hold out. But they’ve abandoned the most basic moral value of all: fairness. America is supposed to be the land of opportunity. But tell that to minorities, to single women, to working-class whites. Even 44 percent of voters who earn over $200,000 a year voted for Obama, the candidate who promised to raise their taxes.

Russellville, KY

#819554 Dec 10, 2012
shinningelectr0n wrote:
Brother Obama is pushing an effort to fund the Muslim Brotherhood's efforts to make Egypt, and hopefully, the entire Middle East run by theocracies. The Jerk-In-Chief is loaded with Allah...and BS.
I don't want my tax money being used to promote Islam and the deaths of infidels, dammit. The Boy Messiah's legacy will be the downfall of the West and all of its best qualities. We are entering a Dark Age, folks.
But...what the hey...weez gots free cellphones!
Oh NO!!!!!!!!!! Not the Dark Ages!!!!!!!!!!Oh NO!!!!!!!!!! The US has sent Egypt $1.3 Billion per year for the past 40 years as payoff to leave Israel alone. Israel gets $3 Billion per year by the way. But now under Obama doing what has been done for the past 40 years it's the Dark Ages. OH NO !!!!!!!!!!

Russellville, KY

#819555 Dec 10, 2012
Lincoln Duncan wrote:
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Republicans should have nominated a leader in 2012
They ran the best and brightest minds they had in the Repub Party.
Obama 2016

Virginia Beach, VA

#819556 Dec 10, 2012
ole_47 wrote:
Democrats, guns, and airplanes...
"Last week we reported on Democratic Illinois state Sen. Donne Trotter, who faces felony gun charges after attempting to take a handgun onto an aircraft."
America needs to get rid of all these guns. In countries where guns are banned, gun crimes are practically nonexistent. Most Americans agree that President Obama needs to step up to the plate and get rid of all these guns.
Obama 2016

Virginia Beach, VA

#819557 Dec 10, 2012
ole_47 wrote:
Obama's WH tells us our taxes are going up...
"A typical middle class family of four would see its taxes rise by $2,200 starting in 2013"
Let those Bush tax cuts expire...
In today's improved economy, Americans can afford to pay a more in taxes. Tax dollars are necessary to keep the government functioning properly. Paying taxes is one of the most patriotic things an American can do.
Obama 2016

Virginia Beach, VA

#819558 Dec 10, 2012
ole_47 wrote:
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Gass guzzlin Jeeps are envogue now?
Jeeps are responsible for the destruction of millions of acres of wetlands and beaches every year. They should be banned like they were recently on North Carolina's outer banks. Nobody needs to be driving on our beaches and wetlands. That's what America's highway system is for.
Obama 2016

Virginia Beach, VA

#819561 Dec 10, 2012
ole_47 wrote:
Why GM and Chrysler RAN to Mexico...
"GM workers in Mexico earn wages and benefits of 340 pesos a day ($26.40) on average, or less than $4 an hour, said Tereso Medina, head of the union for GM’s 5,000 workers in Saltillo, a city that makes one in four Mexican autos."
A person in Mexico can live very comfortabley on $26.40 a day. They have a different economy. Americans could live comfortabley on that before George Bush destroyed the economy.
Obama 2016

Virginia Beach, VA

#819563 Dec 10, 2012
carol wrote:
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You mean like Eric Holder and the Fast and Furious details?
The Fast & Furious project was a matter of national security whose details need not be made public.
Obama 2016

Virginia Beach, VA

#819564 Dec 10, 2012
Carter wrote:
<quoted text> Thank you for once again proving that obama-worshippers remain as ignorant as prior to the incompetent's re-election. LOL
President Obama's re-election was the gratest thing that happened to America in the past 50 years.


#819565 Dec 10, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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You don't get to decide what others "need" Adolph. Now go back to your Eva Braun blow up doll


#819566 Dec 10, 2012
Obama 2016

Virginia Beach, VA

#819567 Dec 10, 2012
flack wrote:
Middle class tax increases on the way.
Middle class Americans can afford to pay a little more in taxes. Nobody needs $250,000 a year to live. Much of it could be used to improve America's infrastructure and health care and to clean up America's air and water.


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