Websleuths admin is convicted habitua...
to yoy

Mesa, AZ

#252 May 13, 2009
meant *to yoy* for the name on the post above
Jax

Denver, CO

#253 May 13, 2009
yoy wrote:
by yoy:
"I don't care if Tricia doesn't check everyone on her site, in fact I think that would be downright wrong. I don't think it would be a bad idea though to check those who she allowed to represent websleuths publicly in child crime cases though"
if you are intellectually honest, you will call for the same investigations at jq, mmac, scared monkeys,beaconhell, etc
until you and others here publicly call for the same, your words aren't worth the powder to blow to hell
how about ya'll start with amraann, toby, deandaniellws, dingo, jeanadp, mushy, bakerprune, princess, etc
Exactly. If this is such a concern to everyone, check these people out. Otherwise shut up about it.
concerned

Nashville, TN

#254 May 13, 2009
WSquitter wrote:
Seems WC and Tricia along with WC's sister have spam marked everything here. Childish indeed!
What WC done was wrong no doubt, but very much in her past. How about everyone start doing background checks on everyone in their forums? How about we all just invade Tricia's privacy, and everyone at WS, that seems fair doesn't it?
Nobody is perfect, everyone has a record or a skeleton in the closet. This entire issues is insanity to me.
The MAIN problem with the whole windchime thing is that TG allowed WC sister to post blaming the child victims and calling them liars. While TG MAY not have known about her dear friends proclivities she certainly should have known better than to allow the sister's post. ANY advocate for victims would have known that. The other problem is that TG does not allow ANYONE privacy. They read private messages between members and on more than one occasion TG posted personal contact information about a member that made her mad. TG also does not allow members to delete their accounts. I have less concern for TG's privacy being violated than the many honest members who have their privacy violated daily.
YOY

Booval, Australia

#255 May 13, 2009
yoy wrote:
by yoy:
"I don't care if Tricia doesn't check everyone on her site, in fact I think that would be downright wrong. I don't think it would be a bad idea though to check those who she allowed to represent websleuths publicly in child crime cases though"
if you are intellectually honest, you will call for the same investigations at jq, mmac, scared monkeys,beaconhell, etc
until you and others here publicly call for the same, your words aren't worth the powder to blow to hell
how about ya'll start with amraann, toby, deandaniellws, dingo, jeanadp, mushy, bakerprune, princess, etc
I haven't even heard of some of the above names you mention though I am sure I would have if they had been informed that they had a child molester and sexual predator amongst their moderators (especially if they are true crime sites AND promote themselves as victim advocates as Websleuths does)and then turned around and after firing this woman whose abuse affected even more than one child to appease people, BUT, then lost any credibility by allowing the sister of this female sexual predator to be allowed to post a letter on the site saying that the sex offender had only plead guilty but was not really guilty and nor was her husband who was jailed for his crimes against children; then went on to actually accuse the children of lying and victimised those children all over again on a VICTIMS ADVOCATE SITE!?!? For Tricia Griffiths the owner of Websleuths to allow this and then for her to stop anyone from replying to the post or discussing the topic she effectively stifled the outcry of disgust and blanket banned the appalled posters who offended her by trying to point out that these children were being victimised a 2nd time when she allowed that sorry display on her tru crime forum.
This is not about whether Websleuths or any forums run criminal checks for there staff, it is about really fighting for children and protecting their rights not those of a convicted sexual offender who violated their trust. I am saddened that some of you come here with absolutely nothing to say about what occurred except that this should be allowed to be swept under the rug. You all seem to have absolutely no concern for the children who were once again victimised on a forum that promotes itself as true crime and victims advocate, an that is truly sad.
Don't you understand that your insensitive comments fuel the flames here and actually intensify posters need to stand up for these children. If you truly want this to go away then you have to stop avoiding the issue and actually examine what happened here. The only way I can see that Tricia could make ammends would involve a public apology to windslime aka windchimes victims. Instead we get spamming poster who show no empathy at all for the real victims here and they were not Tricia or Windslime imo.
Deflect, bash deflect. It is a tired old response to what is a very serious matter imo.
YOY

Booval, Australia

#256 May 13, 2009
I made a horrible mistake at the end of my previous post, I meant to say the only way I could see to even begin the process of making amends would involve a public apology from Tricia to those children for allowing windchimes sister to victimise them again and it would need to be sincere. here is more that should be done as well imo but Tricia should have figured that out for herself a long time ago
I felt sick when I realised it sounded like I thought Ticia should apologise to the pedophile herself uugh! SORRY ABOUT THAT.
YOY

Booval, Australia

#257 May 13, 2009
Idea wrote:
I wonder if Windchime's very involvement in WebSleuths and the fact she was was involved in missing children's cases both physically and on the internet should flag authorities. Technically she was still on alleged supervision till 2011 according to the wording on her documents (they way I interpreted them) Would this not be considered a violation and she should be on the radar and thus put on the Sexual Offender Registry which would follow her the rest of her life and preclude her involvement again?
I think it could have a huge affect. Sexual preditors seem to always reinvolve themselves in areas that give them some kind of thrill.. whatever it is to that individual offender. Perhaps authorities need to know about this and it should be reported.
Perhaps Windchime needs to be added to the Sexual Offender Registry as a violation of her pleaing guilty and the probation requirements because to me this might be a reoffending since she probably wasn't supposed to be around kids and certainly not insert herself into cases like this over the years.
Just a thought I had.
I agree that windslimes motives here are cause for great concern. good post.

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Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#258 May 14, 2009
YOY wrote:
<quoted text>
I am so totally disgusted that Wichien was given 4nuts5spam and 4 ignorant judgements for what was in fact an indisputably perceptive, heartfelt, well thought out post that did not in anyway stoop to name calling to make its point. I noticed no one actually had the guts to express this in an actual response. I guess they realised how ignorant their judgements would be seen to be.
Disgusting.
Thank you so much YOY for your support and compliments. I am glad that someone did read my words and appreciate them rather than just having some kneejerk response to give negative judgements to any criticism of WS no matter how valid and no matter how expressed.

Actually, though, since they seem to want to portray ANY criticism of WS or Tricia as being from deranged "haters", perhaps they saw a "perceptive, heartfelt, well thought out post that did not in any way stoop to name calling to make its point" (thx again!!) as being WORSE than name-calling, personal insults and wild exaggerations --because it doesn't fit the stereotype they have some NEED to believe in.

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Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#259 May 14, 2009
concerned wrote:
YOY and Wichien Maat It is nice to read well thought out and intelligent posts on this thread. Thank you for your thoughts. Some on here tend to spend way too much time talking about other people's appearance and habits. I like to focus on the facts of the whole winchime mess and appreciate reading others thoughts. Thanks again.
Thank you so very much, concerned. I think name calling and insults about people's looks dilute the valid criticisms.

But as I commented above in response to YOY, it seems that some people were just as upset if not MORE upset by criticism expressed in a civil way. Perhaps that threatens their NEED to believe that any criticism must be only from a few crazy, jealous "haters". As long as they believe that, they don't have to listen.

Level 1

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#260 May 14, 2009
YOY wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't even heard of some of the above names you mention though I am sure I would have if they had been informed that they had a child molester and sexual predator amongst their moderators (especially if they are true crime sites AND promote themselves as victim advocates as Websleuths does)and then turned around and after firing this woman whose abuse affected even more than one child to appease people, BUT, then lost any credibility by allowing the sister of this female sexual predator to be allowed to post a letter on the site saying that the sex offender had only plead guilty but was not really guilty and nor was her husband who was jailed for his crimes against children; then went on to actually accuse the children of lying and victimised those children all over again on a VICTIMS ADVOCATE SITE!?!? For Tricia Griffiths the owner of Websleuths to allow this and then for her to stop anyone from replying to the post or discussing the topic she effectively stifled the outcry of disgust and blanket banned the appalled posters who offended her by trying to point out that these children were being victimised a 2nd time when she allowed that sorry display on her tru crime forum.
This is not about whether Websleuths or any forums run criminal checks for there staff, it is about really fighting for children and protecting their rights not those of a convicted sexual offender who violated their trust. I am saddened that some of you come here with absolutely nothing to say about what occurred except that this should be allowed to be swept under the rug. You all seem to have absolutely no concern for the children who were once again victimised on a forum that promotes itself as true crime and victims advocate, an that is truly sad.
Don't you understand that your insensitive comments fuel the flames here and actually intensify posters need to stand up for these children. If you truly want this to go away then you have to stop avoiding the issue and actually examine what happened here. The only way I can see that Tricia could make ammends would involve a public apology to windslime aka windchimes victims. Instead we get spamming poster who show no empathy at all for the real victims here and they were not Tricia or Windslime imo.
Deflect, bash deflect. It is a tired old response to what is a very serious matter imo.
Great post YOY. You have expressed so well what I found appalling--people ignoring the real issue and reacting like they were angry someone outed the convicted, guilty-pleading habitual offender predator. I really thought people should be glad that this had been discovered so she would no longer be representing WS.

P.S. Watch out -- Someone may accuse you of lying because you don't know all of those names on that list! LOL!
Max

Trenton, NJ

#261 May 14, 2009
YOY wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't even heard of some of the above names you mention though I am sure I would have if they had been informed that they had a child molester and sexual predator amongst their moderators (especially if they are true crime sites AND promote themselves as victim advocates as Websleuths does)...
So what?

Your reply is non-responsive. The same investigations can and should be made at those sites and for those named if you are being honest with your concern. Seeking to make certain WC and WS were the only ones is being pro-active rather than just joining in the outrage.
concerned

Nashville, TN

#262 May 14, 2009
Wichien Maat wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you so very much, concerned. I think name calling and insults about people's looks dilute the valid criticisms.
But as I commented above in response to YOY, it seems that some people were just as upset if not MORE upset by criticism expressed in a civil way. Perhaps that threatens their NEED to believe that any criticism must be only from a few crazy, jealous "haters". As long as they believe that, they don't have to listen.
It absolutely upsets them more because it is an intelligent response without immature rantings.
oknowbump

San Jose, CA

#264 May 16, 2009
bumping this thread
SayNo2StupidPeep s

San Luis, AZ

#267 May 18, 2009
Who cares if Tricia wears WS down into a shred of it's former self? Pook and River and even Murphy are long gone. Who is left to even care?

I care enough to read this thread, yawn and move on.
its2rad

Calgary, Canada

#268 May 18, 2009
WOW...you guys are STILL here whining? Geez, get over it already, take up a hobby or something.
wthe

San Jose, CA

#269 May 18, 2009
its2rad wrote:
WOW...you guys are STILL here whining? Geez, get over it already, take up a hobby or something.
Looks like your here too.
whatsup

Nashville, TN

#270 May 21, 2009
Glad to see this thread still being viewed. It is important for people, especially those in Florida to know that windchime is a convicted pedophile living among you and not on the sex offender registry. Also good to remind people just what they are getting into over at WS. Thanks for the great comments.
CircusWatcher

Houston, TX

#271 May 21, 2009
YOY wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW I agree that there is no reason to critiscise anyones looks. I don't judge a person by their looks but by their actions. Tricias looks are well beside the point and I don't see how it is helpful to bring them up anyway, it's not like it makes you more credible to call someone ugly.
I do however understand why people are upset with her handling of this and I am absolutely appalled that Windslime was ever allowed to have her defense posted by her sister on this site blaming those children while allowing no responses. Those children were victimised again when she allowed that to happen!
I have to laugh at all the posts filled with mock indignation at "rudeness" and "personal assaults"

Some WS posters have gone on and on about the BH owner's very personal information, ridiculing her her looks, and accusing her of fraud. The only protests were from posters attempting to clarify her alleged situation. I dind't read one post calling out the posters that insulted her. But I read plenty about TG.

I don't know BH and don't read there unless there is a link here. It is my guess she really doesn't care what others think about her. Neither do I. If TG cares so much abt what others think, she should present herself in an appealing way through her communication skills and her personal appearance. It's my opinion she is a very unhappy person in real life. She projects her shortcomings onto others. She has never been at fault for a dayum thing. She is disgusting. Windchime and her sister are still at the site.

As for making fun of her appearance, I am sure you all have never discussed Nancy Grace, Larry King, Lisa Bloom, etc. You never read People Magazine. TG poses as a victims advocate faithfully serving the underdog. She put links to her canceled shows. She is fair game. Oh and she is ugly inside and out. People on the internet should know what they are getting into if they join her forum.
CircusWatcher

Houston, TX

#272 May 21, 2009
Wichien Maat wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you so much YOY for your support and compliments. I am glad that someone did read my words and appreciate them rather than just having some kneejerk response to give negative judgements to any criticism of WS no matter how valid and no matter how expressed.
Actually, though, since they seem to want to portray ANY criticism of WS or Tricia as being from deranged "haters", perhaps they saw a "perceptive, heartfelt, well thought out post that did not in any way stoop to name calling to make its point" (thx again!!) as being WORSE than name-calling, personal insults and wild exaggerations --because it doesn't fit the stereotype they have some NEED to believe in.
I see your posts as passive aggressive. I'd rather deal with a direct, rude b***** any day. But that is just me.

Why don't you discuss all the insults that TG has hurled? You can discuss the ones posted here or there? I think TG is the one with kneejerk reactions. You know like letting a Tinkerbell post lies in defense of her habitual sex offender sister. Like publically outing people's names & locations. Mass bannings and false accusations. The offshoot boards might seem to be tetaliation. While it is certainly not my style, I don't fault the ones that have chose to fight TG. Do you think they should stay silent and meekly slink away into obvilion while TG drags their name thru the mud?

Knowledge is power.
CircusWatcher

Houston, TX

#274 May 21, 2009
AnnaFl posts sounded a lot like Tinkerbell/WC/TG. You know how TG verified that she had talked to her on the phone and all. Here is my favorite post regarding "AnnaFL"

I hate how everyone is so out to get them. It's so unfair!

==========
This is not Anna right now, I am also family and live with Anna. Please..PLEASE understand the toll this is taking on her. Not only is she trying to provide you all with any information she has, she's also trying to say it in a manner that will keep her and others safe. In addition to that, now she is reading posts from people,(not naming names, but you all l know who they are) who are questioning her as far as actually being family...or spreading rumors......it's incredibly hurtful to someone who has been doing nothing but research and talking on the phone to family as well as really scary people...strangers...law enforcement...media...until sometimes 5 and 6 in the morning. This is NOT all she has going on in her life, however, all she is focused on is finding Haleigh...but then to hear from some people in this group who either question her ethics or sincerity...To be honest, if it were me...I'd probably stop posting all together. She keeps thinking though, that because you all have proven to be so excellent at researching all of this...that you will come through for this little girl. It just takes one little thing to put it all together. Everyone is a suspect. It's not just something the media is saying...it's totally true. Please please PLEASE stop coming at her like this. It's hurtful..and honestly, the people who are focusing on her (Anna) and her relationship to Haleigh or her reason for helping should be ashamed of themselves and focus on the clues she is giving you. Just say "thank you" and look for this child!

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Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#275 May 22, 2009
CircusWatcher wrote:
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I have to laugh at all the posts filled with mock indignation at "rudeness" and "personal assaults"
Some WS posters have gone on and on about the BH owner's very personal information, ridiculing her her looks, and accusing her of fraud. The only protests were from posters attempting to clarify her alleged situation. I dind't read one post calling out the posters that insulted her. But I read plenty about TG.
I don't know BH and don't read there unless there is a link here. It is my guess she really doesn't care what others think about her. Neither do I. If TG cares so much abt what others think, she should present herself in an appealing way through her communication skills and her personal appearance. It's my opinion she is a very unhappy person in real life. She projects her shortcomings onto others. She has never been at fault for a dayum thing. She is disgusting. Windchime and her sister are still at the site.
As for making fun of her appearance, I am sure you all have never discussed Nancy Grace, Larry King, Lisa Bloom, etc. You never read People Magazine. TG poses as a victims advocate faithfully serving the underdog. She put links to her canceled shows. She is fair game. Oh and she is ugly inside and out. People on the internet should know what they are getting into if they join her forum.
My point was that some people were not seeing past the comments here about Tricia's looks to the very real and serious criticisms about her behaviour in the handling of multiple issues at WS . The jokes about looks, weight etc. gave an excuse to brush off more important things. You wrote that people should know what they aregetting into if they join her forum. But if people see a bunch of joking about superficial issues they may think we are just being mean and picking on her andit might make them take less seriously anything else said.

re the insults someone posted on here about the owner of BH, maybe we let it slide being aware that she has made fun of tricia's appearance herself on multiple occasions. and as you say probably doesnt care anyway. I dont know her or about her medical issues and income but clearly someone else felt those things were more important to respond to than the nasty remarks about her looks.

I have commented about Nancy Grace but not about her looks - there are far more important things to say in how she spreads false rumors, jumps to conclusions and serves as a cheerleader for the prosecution even when they are wrong. I dont think I have commented on the other people you mention at all. And I have only glanced at a People Magazine when it was the only choice in a waiting room.

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