Rename Division Avenue

Rename Division Avenue

There are 62 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Oct 21, 2007, titled Rename Division Avenue. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

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The Truth

Wellford, SC

#1 Oct 21, 2007
Amazing how Blacks want the name "Division" changed on a street, because as they say, it's meaning seperates the Blacks from the Whites. However these same Blacks call themselves "AFRICAN-Americans. Seperating themselves from other Americans.
Attilla the Honey

Palm Bay, FL

#2 Oct 21, 2007
Renaming a street, highway, or road in Orlando or Orange County is the most useless, shallowist, waste of time and money imaginable and all it does is satisfy a tiny group of individuals who have too much time on their hands. It creates confusion for people used to the old names, it makes map makers and every every conceivable record out of date requiring untold changes to have to be made in billing, in deeds, in tax records etc. beyond belief. You have no idea what paperwork this could involve ultimately involve but to those who planned it, they only think the City has to go out and replace a few street signs. Wrong, wrong, wrong. And, by the way, are they even going to pay for the street signs to be made and changed ? No, we taxpayers, again eat that cost.

I'd rather see efforts made to erase the crime, the poverty, the joblessness, the hopelessness of the area to the West rather than spend money trying to pretend it doesn't exist. Changing street signs is a bit like trying to use cologne to hide the fact that someone maybe needs to employ some soap and water ? This of course is a hyperbole to describe a wide range of problems needing vast amounts of attention before we go wasting money changing street signs around to please someone.
Snapped

Hemet, CA

#3 Oct 21, 2007
I was born near Division and Bryant.

Whatever you do, don't call it Buddy Dyer Blvd.
Jessica

Leesburg, FL

#4 Oct 21, 2007
There is a Division Street in Oviedo as well. It divides Oviedo. I always thought it was really strange and unnerving. They should change these names, IMO.
Attilla the Honey

Palm Bay, FL

#5 Oct 21, 2007
Please, let's get Willaim H. Wood's address and phone number so we know where all he people who have business interest and residences up and down Division St. can send the bills for all their new required advertising literature, stationary, envelopes, business cards, invoices etc. they have to replace entirely and throw out on the "Nap Ford parkway" after the change. All the internet postings, telephone book listings, etc. that have to be changed, not to mention the added hassle of having people frantically trying to find the old Division St. but can't so they have to call and interrupt working people for new directions? Maybe Mr. Wood just thought that all was free ?? Will Buddy boy, who no doubt will want to bend over backwards to appease Parramore voters let businessmen deduct all the costs of changing the address over from their property taxes at the end of the year ? Hold your breath. Mr. Wood, you apparently have no idea of what a change of street names could entail in the way of money lost for business owners up and down this street.
James

Clearwater, FL

#6 Oct 21, 2007
The Truth wrote:
Amazing how Blacks want the name "Division" changed on a street, because as they say, it's meaning seperates the Blacks from the Whites. However these same Blacks call themselves "AFRICAN-Americans. Seperating themselves from other Americans.
How true. At first we were supposed to be a melting pot, then, a culturally diverse nation, and now we are supposed to be a 100% politically correct, yet diverse nation.
I'm a Black man, have lived near Division my whole life and haven't given any thought to it being anything other than a street. My uncle owns a business on Division. Is he supposed to change everything that has his address on it to satisfy some stupid desire to make everything in the world politically correct?
We so have a White street. Should we change that too?
Carbon

Windermere, FL

#7 Oct 21, 2007
How about building a wall topped with razorwire instead.
Geraldine

Palm Bay, FL

#8 Oct 21, 2007
Attilla didn't think about including all the businesses scattered all over the country who deal with Division St. commercial and residential identities who have embedded in all their records, including in their database software countless entries with their old street addresses in them that all will have to be notified and changed and it isn't free to pay IT people to come in and do this or people to go into card files and file folders and update them so they can continue to ship goods correctly, bill them correctly and keep tabs on these accounts. Changing designations like this is not just a matter of a few street signs to make someone feel good.
Henry

Clearwater, FL

#9 Oct 21, 2007
This guy is looney. Honor Mr. Ford in some other way. I get really tired of naming arenas, streets, parks, etc. after an elected official when our tax dollars are what purchases and maintains everything in the city.
How about honoring the hardworking taxpayer instead? Enought with the ego crap!
Snapped

United States

#10 Oct 21, 2007
Well, based on the comments on the post thus far, there is still Division.
Ronald

Clearwater, FL

#11 Oct 21, 2007
Snapped wrote:
Well, based on the comments on the post thus far, there is still Division.
Brilliant statement.
There is division just as there would be if some yahoo wanted to change the name Orange Ave. or Central to honor a deceased council member.
One writer was right when he said that we shouldn't name things that are paid for by our taxes after anyone. It serves no purpose and a name change of any street, adversely impacts the businesses on that street in many ways. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
RICK FROM ORLANDO

Plano, TX

#12 Oct 21, 2007
TO MAKE IT FAIR AND BALANCED, LET US CHANGE ALL THE STREET NAMES TO LETTERS AND NUMBERS.

FAIRNESS DEMANDS IT. WHO ARE THESE RAACIST THAT ADORN ARE STREETS?

POWER TO Americans With No Abilities
LiberalDave

Clearwater, FL

#13 Oct 21, 2007
RICK FROM ORLANDO wrote:
TO MAKE IT FAIR AND BALANCED, LET US CHANGE ALL THE STREET NAMES TO LETTERS AND NUMBERS.
FAIRNESS DEMANDS IT. WHO ARE THESE RAACIST THAT ADORN ARE STREETS?
POWER TO Americans With No Abilities
Yeah, but the we might offend people who think that certain numbers mean things. What if you had 666th Blvd? or 69th Street?
Can't use letters because some letters in some cultures may be offensive if used on a street sign.
I say we should take all of the signs down so every street is not thought of as being better than any other street. No more STOP signs either....Stop what? And YIELD can mean that one car is taking a superior position to another. Can't have that.
Signs are evil and offensive to some group somewhere. Do away with all of them. As for those lines in the street....
Sheriff McCall

Titusville, FL

#14 Oct 21, 2007
how did I get in all this?
Southern Betty

AOL

#15 Oct 21, 2007
Wow, what a bunch of bigggots. This writer isn't interested in renaming 17-92 for God's sakes. He simply wants to correct a wrong and Division reminds one of the 1950s when black people were still being treated like sub-humans by Southern whites (almost 100 years after the civil war). Wouldn't it be a good thing to bury those memories?

I think his idea of honoring Nap Ford is excellent albeit he was a politician. It sounds as if he was revered by his community so why not rename a street whose name has ugly memories. What would you prefer, George Wallace highway?

It always a plus to tidy up white people's dirty tracks. Go for it.
Southern Betty

AOL

#16 Oct 21, 2007
PS. I'm a WHITE woman with plenty of biggot ancestry
Frank Tonight

Palm Bay, FL

#17 Oct 21, 2007
Southern Betty wrote:
Wow, what a bunch of bigggots. This writer isn't interested in renaming 17-92 for God's sakes. He simply wants to correct a wrong and Division reminds one of the 1950s when black people were still being treated like sub-humans by Southern whites (almost 100 years after the civil war). Wouldn't it be a good thing to bury those memories?
I think his idea of honoring Nap Ford is excellent albeit he was a politician. It sounds as if he was revered by his community so why not rename a street whose name has ugly memories. What would you prefer, George Wallace highway?
It always a plus to tidy up white people's dirty tracks. Go for it.
Unless you are prepared to change all the references to Orlando's Division Street everywhere it appears in every record, every computer, every map, etc. plus pay all these people who have businesses along there for new stationary and business cards etc. plus call around and notify all their customers and suppliers so they can make the changes in all their records, I'd stow the idea under a rock somewhere and forget I ever mentioned it.
Southern Betty

AOL

#18 Oct 21, 2007
Frank Tonight wrote:
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Unless you are prepared to change all the references to Orlando's Division Street everywhere it appears in every record, every computer, every map, etc. plus pay all these people who have businesses along there for new stationary and business cards etc. plus call around and notify all their customers and suppliers so they can make the changes in all their records, I'd stow the idea under a rock somewhere and forget I ever mentioned it.
As I said, biggotry is alive and well in Orlando.
Harly

Clearwater, FL

#19 Oct 21, 2007
Southern Betty wrote:
PS. I'm a WHITE woman with plenty of biggot ancestry
Sounds like the white woman got some jungle fever.
PeeWee Herman

Altamonte Springs, FL

#20 Oct 21, 2007
"As I said, biggotry is alive and well in Orlando."

So anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a bigot?

In one paragraph, the author said no one knows the origin of the street name; in the next he referred to hatred inspiring the name. If no one knows the origin of the name, how can he draw that conclusion?

One doesn't erase bigotry (spell it right, Betty) and racism by token gestures such as changing street names. To accomplish anything positive, we need to not distract ourselves from the real issues by fooling around with nonsensical symbolism and get on top of the real issues.

Renaming Division to honor yet another black politician will do nothing to assuage racial tension.

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