Failure to meet deadlines is symptom ...

Failure to meet deadlines is symptom of bigger problem

There are 40 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from May 26, 2009, titled Failure to meet deadlines is symptom of bigger problem. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

DEAR ABBY: I disagree with your response to "Needs Help Finishing Th ... " , who can't complete her projects now that she has graduated from college.

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hippiechick

Bristol, PA

#1 May 26, 2009
As a teacher who has spent 20 years teaching in a private school where every student has some kind of learning issue, I can tell you that even with the correct diagnosis and treatment (meds, therapy,strategies for coping with ADD), there is still an amount of will and self-discipline that needs to be cultivated by the students. All the help in the world will do no good unless a person decides to get organized, follow a plan, seek help and purposefully deal with whatever issues are holding them back or making life difficult.

“Joy is the shadow cast by pain”

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Since: Dec 08

Twin Cities, MN

#2 May 26, 2009
I always love, admire, and respect arm chair diagnoses.

“Joy is the shadow cast by pain”

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Since: Dec 08

Twin Cities, MN

#3 May 26, 2009
Nevermind that a popular ADD drug is actually an anti-psychotic, was prescribed for ADD before the FDA approved its use for ADD, and now adolescent and teen boys are developing female-sized breasts as a result. And that can never be reversed. They had a boy on the news last night who had to have a double mastectomy.
Mia

Chicago, IL

#4 May 26, 2009
I got the idea that the original LW was in some kind of arts field and was freelancing after graduation.

In any case, I don't think ADD springs up in our 22nd or 23rd year of life. It is possible the LW is simply not self-motivated. Most of the population needs a structured work environment in order to produce consistently. Between jobs, we lanquish.

“Joy is the shadow cast by pain”

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Since: Dec 08

Twin Cities, MN

#5 May 26, 2009
Mia wrote:
In any case, I don't think ADD springs up in our 22nd or 23rd year of life. It is possible the LW is simply not self-motivated. Most of the population needs a structured work environment in order to produce consistently. Between jobs, we lanquish.
I agree. I had ADD as a kid in the '70s and young adult, but I think a combination of growing out of it and learning/developing skills and tools to work around and with it made a huge difference.

“An Apple a day”

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nil carborundum illegitemi

#6 May 26, 2009
Good ideas from all those who wrote in.
etiquette b

Chicago, IL

#7 May 26, 2009
now about 1,000,000 americans are going to call their doctors today for an ADD prescription. i'm tired of this "diganosis" being thrown around. i like Kalamazoo's answer better.

“Nakedness reveals itself”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#8 May 26, 2009
Another boring column, sigh...
edogxxx

Canton, IL

#9 May 26, 2009
I was gonna make a comment on this column earlier but I... Oh look, a squirrel!

Actually, I don't believe in ADD. Hey, did anyone try out that new burger place in town?

People who procrastinate are just lazy. People who can't focus lack self discipline.

Wait, what were we talking about?
rings90

Abrams, WI

#10 May 26, 2009
I find ADD to be a cop out ~ If I was in school today my parents would ahve been told that I have ADD & should be put on the drugs.. In reality, I was BORED, It was NOT that I did not get it(except math), it was not that I could not focus to listen, it was becuase I was BORED, The structured way American kids were & still in ways are taught is BORING. I was flunking outta school becuase I was bored, doing the work proved nothing, i was reading at about the 9th grade level in the 5th grade.... I just di not like school I did not like the way I was taught by many of the teachers there were some GREAT ones also & surprise surprise I thrived in their classes.... My parents today say they wished there were more of the school options that are available in the European countries had been available for me.

I do just fine with deadlines, getting things done for work & at home & being dependable. If you ask my 1st, 2nd & 4th grade teachers if they ever thought I would be able to meet a deadline they would answer **** NO!!

I don't have ADD or ADHD I just adjusted differently than normal I did & do not need a drug regiment to help me to do it either.

“I'm in with the IN crowd”

Since: Feb 09

Highland, IN

#11 May 26, 2009
edogxxx wrote:
I was gonna make a comment on this column earlier but I... Oh look, a squirrel!
Actually, I don't believe in ADD. Hey, did anyone try out that new burger place in town?
People who procrastinate are just lazy. People who can't focus lack self discipline.
Wait, what were we talking about?
Sounds like SOS--Shiny object syndrome. It's running rampant these days.

“I'm in with the IN crowd”

Since: Feb 09

Highland, IN

#12 May 26, 2009
AngelaMN wrote:
Nevermind that a popular ADD drug is actually an anti-psychotic, was prescribed for ADD before the FDA approved its use for ADD, and now adolescent and teen boys are developing female-sized breasts as a result. And that can never be reversed. They had a boy on the news last night who had to have a double mastectomy.
You're kidding me! I'm going to have to Google this...
Vladica Radivojevic

Belgrade, Serbia

#13 May 26, 2009
edogxxx wrote:
I was gonna make a comment on this column earlier but I... Oh look, a squirrel!
Actually, I don't believe in ADD. Hey, did anyone try out that new burger place in town?
People who procrastinate are just lazy. People who can't focus lack self discipline.
Wait, what were we talking about?
Haha very funy :)

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Tonka

Winter Haven, FL

#14 May 26, 2009
I'm a starter, not a finisher. I'm an idea person. I can, and usually do, finish what I start but am more of a 'big picture' kind of person than a detail oriented person. I don't consider it a problem. Would never consider taking drugs for it (am silver haired). BTW, I would not allow teachers to dictate that a child or grandchild of mine took drugs. AD is over diagnosed in my opinion
Frosty J

United States

#15 May 26, 2009
What looks like an overwhelming project, can be broken down into many simple steps. The mind freaks out with Too Much Information at once.

I used to have this problem when I was in high school. I eventually learned to use a list for step 1, step 2, etc. It takes patience to make it a habit, but it works.

BS, MA
PEllen

Wood Dale, IL

#16 May 26, 2009
rings90 wrote:
I find ADD to be a cop out ~ If I was in school today my parents would ahve been told that I have ADD & should be put on the drugs.. In reality, I was BORED, It was NOT that I did not get it(except math), it was not that I could not focus to listen, it was becuase I was BORED, The structured way American kids were & still in ways are taught is BORING. I was flunking outta school becuase I was bored, doing the work proved nothing, i was reading at about the 9th grade level in the 5th grade.... I just di not like school I did not like the way I was taught by many of the teachers there were some GREAT ones also & surprise surprise I thrived in their classes.... My parents today say they wished there were more of the school options that are available in the European countries had been available for me.
I do just fine with deadlines, getting things done for work & at home & being dependable. If you ask my 1st, 2nd & 4th grade teachers if they ever thought I would be able to meet a deadline they would answer **** NO!!
I don't have ADD or ADHD I just adjusted differently than normal I did & do not need a drug regiment to help me to do it either.
My older daughter ( now 23) was unabe to oay attention in first grade. The school did testing. It was some mild dyslexia. We were told that ADD is often found with dyslexia because even when teh kid tries to focus they can't make sense of what they see. Once things started making sense to her she was able to develop classroom coping strategies. She was never an academic superstar, but she finshed college in 4 years straight from a decent, brand name school.
On the other hand, a close friend who is about 60 and a professional has been unable to focus on his work and is struggling mightily. Just talking to him is a bit like reading edgecoxx's post. He's scattered and distractible and there doesn't seem much to do about it.

And, on the third hand, there are those of us whomare on topix instead of working.
PEllen

Wood Dale, IL

#17 May 26, 2009
And I never took typing and spellcheck doesn't work. Sorry for the typos, especially edogxxx

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#18 May 26, 2009
<While some readers felt that I was insensitive for telling "Needs Help" to "stop the self-indulgence," others, like you, shared helpful suggestions.>

Sigh. In fact, Abby, the LW told you that your response was insensitive AND shared a helpful suggestion. It's not either/or.

BTW, printing a letter which jumps right to the assumption that a major mental illness is the likely diagnosis is not the best way to show the diversity of responses.

Unless of course those few were the only snail-mail responses you had.
rings90

Abrams, WI

#19 May 26, 2009
Pellen ~ I can understand your choices with your daughter, & I was also tested in grade school for dyslexia as they were looking for a "real" reason why I was that particular way. How do you think I know that my reading level was so high at the age of 11? Obvously they found that i did not have it & I was just a strong willed kid who did not want to do the work..

“Choo-Choo!”

Since: Nov 07

Elgin

#20 May 26, 2009
AngelaMN wrote:
Nevermind that a popular ADD drug is actually an anti-psychotic, was prescribed for ADD before the FDA approved its use for ADD, and now adolescent and teen boys are developing female-sized breasts as a result. And that can never be reversed. They had a boy on the news last night who had to have a double mastectomy.
You are right, some of the medication is pretty dangerous. I decided not to take anything that required a police escort or seeing a psychiatrist regularly.

Once diagnosed by a psychiatrist, I was able to obtain my prescription for Wellbutrin, a popular anti-depressive, from my PCP. Between the med and my determination to change my organization habits, I am doing very well. But EVERYONE can tell if I don't take it.

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