OPD awards special honor to city's first black officers

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Twelve years to the day after his death, Belvin Perry Sr. and five other black officers were honored Wednesday by Orlando police Chief Mike McCoy for their roles as the first blacks to integrate OPD.

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Jul 13, 2007
 
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Reggae...So you're a pot smokeing sex crazed individual nicknamed Skinny Richard.
I don't know about skinny richard or pot smoking. But you got sex crazed right.

No I'm not lying, I have never tried/smoked pot. wow look at that... I'm colored and drug free!! hooorah..!
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Wahhh. Someone feeling picked on? Don't even try kid, I really don't care what you think. It's hard to take anyone who swears, as much as you do seriously.
I think its safe to assume your slow...
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I am? Well I'll be, that'll be news to my spouse.
This might surprise you but, most likely he already knew....
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Why the he11 do you post these short stories about nothing... There really annoying to read, especially when your babbling.
I am convinced you have a mental illness not yet known to man. When have I posted any racial comment directly towards white people?? ALL OF MY POSTS WHERE DIRECTED TO "RACIST" WHITE PEOPLE. NOT WHITE PEOPLE AS A WHOLE. I don't have a racist bone in my body. I stumbled upon the orlando sentinel forum one day. And i was shocked at what I was reading. Never before have I seen such racial and biased posts. And what made it worst. No one addressed There names or comments. But, the minute a perceived black person, such as my self, commented towards the rascist posters. All of a sudden, here comes the brigade, in defence of them. Led by SLB. They throw out the "what ifs" and the "how comes" never once lashing out at the racist posters. One poster had the name "Nate Higgers." And he was just posting like anybody else would. Most of the time racist comments. These posters where allowed to flourish and post whatever they liked. This made me upset. Thus spawned "profiled." Truth be told, it was something SLB posted that made me get a this forum. Hear that SLB, this is all your fault...lol I have a very diverse group of friends and i never once had a discussion/argument about racism with anyone. Racism was something i saw and heard about on TV. In all the years of my life, this is the first place i've ever heard anyone have a problem with BET, BET awards, and Black History Month. This is all new to me. The way you people think is new to me. And when I get on this forum its like a different place. Sometimes I wonder why I keep coming back. This is the first encounter i've ever had with racism. It seems the only difference between now and 40 years a ago is that everyone can use the same bathroom. And to be honest.... thats sad.
In Some ways you are correct. But when one race wants special rights over another there will always be racism. There would be an out cry from the black communtiy (this is a generalization) if there was a WET station. Therefore, the white communtiy (generalization)sees the BET as racist. This is the other side of the coin.

I've said this before and I'll say it again I notice attitude and dress before I notice race.
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I don't know about skinny richard or pot smoking. But you got sex crazed right.
No I'm not lying, I have never tried/smoked pot. wow look at that... I'm colored and drug free!! hooorah..!
So why would you assume that I think the two go together?
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I don't know about skinny richard or pot smoking. But you got sex crazed right.
No I'm not lying, I have never tried/smoked pot. wow look at that... I'm colored and drug free!! hooorah..!
I get the feeling you assumed I'm white, I'm not.
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I think its safe to assume your slow...
Depends on what I am doing. ;)
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This might surprise you but, most likely he already knew....
Gee and just when I was going to be nice to you. Sigh.

Then again, she might be surprised.

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Reb, you know I always enjoy your posts as well and appreciate the fact that we can respectfully agree OR disagree. First, let me state that I have probably been less than eloquent in stating my opinion in the face of someone who has been trash-mouthed and insulting since the first post.
To clarify, I don't CARE that there's BET. I certainly don't care that there's television geared towards the black community. I don't personally care about the name. None of it has ANY bearing whatsoever on how I conduct business or how I perceive people. However, my point has been all along that I feel it perpetuates racism. We've seen it at least 100 times on this board alone...why is there BLACK television when there isn't WHITE television. Has absolutely nothing to do with content..it's PERCEPTION, and truly, isn't that what racism is? A perception...or MISPERCEPTION about someone's character based on their race? It gives ignorant racists an argument to continue with the hate (not that they need one)...but it's like any other petty debate, one side can be the bigger person and stop fueling the fire OR both can work from the same level and let it spread.
You're right, racism IS racism and it flows strong, unfortunately. By reverse racism, I simply meant that it flows just as strongly from the other side (regardless of what race is involved).
As far as appearance, I do not associate the "thug" style to a particular race...and I'm pretty sure I stated that. I associate it with a particular attitude and behavior. Just as I would associate someone in a spandex mini and tube top on OBT(regardless of race) as being sexually promiscuous...at a price. Doesn't mean they aren't very nice people if I took the time to get to know them, but is that the type of individual I want in my life? Probably not. So, call me a snob if you'd like...but that has absolutely nothing to do with race. I don't want to be treated like a hooker, so I don't dress like one. I don't want to be treated like a biker chick, so I don't dress like one. All the same, I don't want to be treated like a thug, and therefore, I don't dress like one.(By the way, I've taken issue on this topic with my nephew who felt this was appropriate attire. He's white, and I thought no more of it with him than I would of anyone else of ANY color.)
I don't know how to answer your post.... But I'll suggest that you re-read what you wrote to me.
My only comment to you in my last post was about "reverse racism"...but for whatever reasons, you chose to address comments made to others. Nothing wrong with that, but.....
I went back and re-read the thread, and paid close attention to your posts. Again, you should do the same. You're blaming racism on the way people talk, dress, act, name things - the list goes on. People do the same thing with gays... and all kinds of groups. If only they wouldn't do this, say that, dress this way, act that way.....
Putting the word "black" into BET causes racism? Bah. We'll have to tell the local Jewish Community Center to drop the word "Jewish", as it causes/promotes anti-Semitism, then.
The ONLY place that the blame for racism should be directed is on the racists themselves.
You seem to be saying that you want people to dress,talk, act, behave in a manner that pleases you - that's accommodating to you. People should never have to change who they are or give up their identity because someone else disapproves... Sure, there may be one or two exceptions to that rule, but not in any examples given in this particular discussion.
Maybe I'm not reading you correctly, but it doesn't sound too hot to me.
Oh - and don't expect me at dinner anytime soon. ;-) Besides, I hear I'm now a FEMALE - with cajones - and a 5 o'clock shadow.(only on the weekends, though!).
Did Heidi Fleiss ever wear a tube top? I wonder....

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ummmmmm, well put...("Just for the record", how am i doing? lol...)
Doin fine! Well put! hahaha
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So why would you assume that I think the two go together?
Because they usually do..;0 (j/k)

I'm assuming... making an @$$ out of myself..
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I'm sure I've said the above on several occasions. But is it true? Is it fair to blame such things when we should be held accountable for our own feelings and attitudes toward others and accept our own responsibility for the knowledge of others?
Does Lifetime "Television for Women", Ladies Day at the golf course (or Ladies night at the bar), MISS America, the National Organization for Women etc.- instill hostility and perpetuate sexism? How come we don't make a fuss over Oktoberfest, St Pat's Day celebrations, Greekfest, etc.? How come when we read "women and minorities encouraged to apply" - a big fuss is made over the "minorities" part, but not often over the 'women' part? How many questions can I ask in one paragraph without the grammar police coming after me? ;-)
Do these things really instill hostility and perpetuate racism? Or are we just eager to blame something else so we don't have to face our own issues?
Lets bring this one back... Go Rebel Girl.. If only i could learn to put positive, non-profane words together like this..
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I get the feeling you assumed I'm white, I'm not.
Your NOT!!! please humor me...I can guarantee you can't beat my mix of races....
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Your NOT!!! please humor me...I can guarantee you can't beat my mix of races....
Probably not, my mother wasn't an Alley Cat.
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I don't know how to answer your post.... But I'll suggest that you re-read what you wrote to me.
My only comment to you in my last post was about "reverse racism"...but for whatever reasons, you chose to address comments made to others. Nothing wrong with that, but.....
I went back and re-read the thread, and paid close attention to your posts. Again, you should do the same. You're blaming racism on the way people talk, dress, act, name things - the list goes on. People do the same thing with gays... and all kinds of groups. If only they wouldn't do this, say that, dress this way, act that way.....
Putting the word "black" into BET causes racism? Bah. We'll have to tell the local Jewish Community Center to drop the word "Jewish", as it causes/promotes anti-Semitism, then.
The ONLY place that the blame for racism should be directed is on the racists themselves.
You seem to be saying that you want people to dress,talk, act, behave in a manner that pleases you - that's accommodating to you. People should never have to change who they are or give up their identity because someone else disapproves... Sure, there may be one or two exceptions to that rule, but not in any examples given in this particular discussion.
Maybe I'm not reading you correctly, but it doesn't sound too hot to me.
Oh - and don't expect me at dinner anytime soon. ;-) Besides, I hear I'm now a FEMALE - with cajones - and a 5 o'clock shadow.(only on the weekends, though!).
Did Heidi Fleiss ever wear a tube top? I wonder....
So by your logic haveing a WET, HET, IET or AET, would not be considered racist either or promote segregation? It's not the word black in BET that promotes racism, it's the idea of one race having special rights over another. No other race really has been allowed to do this.

In a perfect world people would not have to change their dress, etc because others disapprove. But we don't live in a perfect world, and sometimes you dress as you need to. I'm sure attorneys, CPAs, doctors, etc. don't always enjoy wearing suits, but it's what is expected of their profession.

Bottom line is you have over simplified the issue.

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Lets bring this one back... Go Rebel Girl.. If only i could learn to put positive, non-profane words together like this..
We should go back to that one, but no one seems to want to address it. They're doing their best to avoid that discussion altogether.

(p.s. I am not a girl)

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So by your logic haveing a WET, HET, IET or AET, would not be considered racist either or promote segregation? It's not the word black in BET that promotes racism, it's the idea of one race having special rights over another. No other race really has been allowed to do this.
In a perfect world people would not have to change their dress, etc because others disapprove. But we don't live in a perfect world, and sometimes you dress as you need to. I'm sure attorneys, CPAs, doctors, etc. don't always enjoy wearing suits, but it's what is expected of their profession.
Bottom line is you have over simplified the issue.
Uncle Tom, is that you?

One person says having the word "black" in BET IS a reason for racism. YOU call it "special rights". I tend to be wary of anyone that includes "special rights" in their vocabulary. And how the heck is using the word "black" to describe one's self - when one IS black - a special right?

I may have oversimplified the issue of dress, but only because this discussion is about racism - not dress. I'm sure Donald Trump looks at you as trailer trash when you don't wear a suit, or because your suit comes from JCPenney - or Younker's, or wherever you Wausau-ites buy your clothing. Should you change to accomodate him, and others like him? I personally don't expect anyone to dress a certain way... and I certainly don't expect them to dress to impress me. Sure, there are some situations where certain attire is more appropriate than other attire - but then who decides THAT?

Do the Hmongs in Wausau dress to please the rest of the population? Do they drop the word "Hmong" from their television shows, their radio stations, their museum, their newspapers, their businesses and meetings and what-not, just because the racists and bigots have a problem with it? Is the local newspaper writing editorials about these issues, insisting that those darn Hmongs dress more appropriately, and drop the "Hmong", because it promotes racism?

I didn't think so.
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Uncle Tom, is that you?
One person says having the word "black" in BET IS a reason for racism. YOU call it "special rights". I tend to be wary of anyone that includes "special rights" in their vocabulary. And how the heck is using the word "black" to describe one's self - when one IS black - a special right?
I may have oversimplified the issue of dress, but only because this discussion is about racism - not dress. I'm sure Donald Trump looks at you as trailer trash when you don't wear a suit, or because your suit comes from JCPenney - or Younker's, or wherever you Wausau-ites buy your clothing. Should you change to accomodate him, and others like him? I personally don't expect anyone to dress a certain way... and I certainly don't expect them to dress to impress me. Sure, there are some situations where certain attire is more appropriate than other attire - but then who decides THAT?
Do the Hmongs in Wausau dress to please the rest of the population? Do they drop the word "Hmong" from their television shows, their radio stations, their museum, their newspapers, their businesses and meetings and what-not, just because the racists and bigots have a problem with it? Is the local newspaper writing editorials about these issues, insisting that those darn Hmongs dress more appropriately, and drop the "Hmong", because it promotes racism?
I didn't think so.
You missed the point entirely. My guess it is because you are very emotional about this issue.

You over simplified the issue of racism.

Just trying to get you to see the other side of the coin. Until you and others like you can see both sides there will always be racism.

I realize the ISP says Wausau, WI but I don't live or shop in Wausau.

Ironically, I do wear suits, but not from Wal-mart, JC Penny, Sears or the like. In addition, it is most likely that I have more in common with Donald Trump than I do with you.

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You missed the point entirely. My guess it is because you are very emotional about this issue.
You over simplified the issue of racism.
Just trying to get you to see the other side of the coin. Until you and others like you can see both sides there will always be racism.
I realize the ISP says Wausau, WI but I don't live or shop in Wausau.
Ironically, I do wear suits, but not from Wal-mart, JC Penny, Sears or the like. In addition, it is most likely that I have more in common with Donald Trump than I do with you.
I missed the point? You ramble on about clothing, and then expect people to figure out that you're talkin about racism? Maybe YOU just didn't explain your position clearly.

Or maybe you did. I saw you mention "special rights" on more than one occasion.

Wasn't it Ronald Reagan who claims he never witnessed racism, but did his darnest to try an elimiate anything that was an attempt to level the playing field?

I don't car where you shop, but in an earlier post you implied that you knew Wausau. I understand that Topix places people all over the country, but - is that now an untruth.

As for comparing yourself to Trump... um, whatever. I'd keep that to myself. Trump isn't a very admirable human being. Wealthy? Yes. Controversial? All the time. But an admirable human being? Not in my book.

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You missed the point entirely. My guess it is because you are very emotional about this issue.
You over simplified the issue of racism.
Just trying to get you to see the other side of the coin. Until you and others like you can see both sides there will always be racism.
I realize the ISP says Wausau, WI but I don't live or shop in Wausau.
Ironically, I do wear suits, but not from Wal-mart, JC Penny, Sears or the like. In addition, it is most likely that I have more in common with Donald Trump than I do with you.
Oh yeah... and now you're blaming racism on me? hahahahahahaha You don't know me from Adam, yet you've made several assumptions about me. That doesn't say much for you.

If I am emotional about racism, it isn't an insult when you try and point that out. Everyone should be emotional about racism. It's quite the ugly beast.

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