CASEY: Does the State Have the Goods ...
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507046 Sep 1, 2013
hey marce wrote:
<quoted text>
The murder of Caylee Anthony is not a 'cold case.' Casey was acquitted during trial. The judicial process considers the case closed.
A cold case means investigative leads have gone nowhere. There is no suspect.
"You can't believe in the rule of law and not accept that sometimes it doesn't go the way you think it should."
- Jeff Ashton

And you most certainly do not believe in the rule of law if you presume a defendant is guilty both before and after they are acquitted of a crime.

No unsolved case is ever closed.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507047 Sep 1, 2013
Murphey_Law wrote:
<quoted text>
It's the Odd, eh? that I Like!
From my Canuck Compadre topix friend!
It's Odd, eh?
Smile Rambler...The Truth Shall Set You Free Deer...
7537
So why do you suppose details of your alleged sighting was never released in Florida discovery?

You do realize the implications of the State withholding exculpatory evidence, I assume?

If what you say is true, by now the Prosecution would surely have been sanctioned for not releasing such critical information to the defense since you claim you've told virtually everyone connected to the case about your sighting,

Frankly, I like Double Jeoprady's notion - you've cast the spotlight upon you by proclaiming yourself to have seen Caylee alive after June 16, 2008. It's senseless to hide behind the shroud of the other tipsters - they were all found to not be legitimate. That makes you the last known person.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507048 Sep 1, 2013
Clarification_Dayz wrote:
<quoted text> Don't confuse a search warrant affidavit with seized property. They didn't find Caylee's original clothes, pursuant the warrant.
They have NEVER found Caylee's original clothes -- the garments 'Credible George' saw Caylee wearing as she leaves the house ALIVE.
Oh now I get it. I was wondering why ngracie thought that was a big deal......she mistakingly thought by what was recorded in the original search warrant meant LE actually found what they were looking for.

That's a good example of why this ngracie is not the original one, who knew the case inside and out.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507049 Sep 1, 2013
The clothing Caylee was reported to have been wearing on June 16th became extremely significant immediately on July 16th after it was revealed the child was missing, at the same time as it was widely reported what GA recalled she was wearing, not much later on December 11tth when the skeletal remains were discovered with DIFFERENT clothes, after Casey had already been indicted for first degree murder.

Ngracie, it's a real long trip down a rabbit hole to suggest anyone, let alone an excop, would intentionally frame themselves not only by holding onto very unique duct tape involved in the death of a child, but by applying it to items to incriminate themselves, As well as keeping the very same clothes they reported to have last seen the child wearing knowing their home had been and could be searched at any time.

And GA was defended by the prosecution -- meanwhile all this evidence you've found in the discovery legally released to prosecute Casey proves George's guilt instead...yep, yep.

Your crime sleuthing skills are literally "Elementary (school), my dear Watson".

Level 6

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#507050 Sep 1, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
So why do you suppose details of your alleged sighting was never released in Florida discovery?
You do realize the implications of the State withholding exculpatory evidence, I assume?
If what you say is true, by now the Prosecution would surely have been sanctioned for not releasing such critical information to the defense since you claim you've told virtually everyone connected to the case about your sighting,
Frankly, I like Double Jeoprady's notion - you've cast the spotlight upon you by proclaiming yourself to have seen Caylee alive after June 16, 2008. It's senseless to hide behind the shroud of the other tipsters - they were all found to not be legitimate. That makes you the last known person.
That's right Rambler...
This is why I repeatedly said..."If this is not a huge misunderstanding., then., It's outright deceitful!
I can only assume that the meeting I had with Sheriff Whiddon,
et al., shortly before my sighting , on June 19th 2008...did apply to Federal Authorities..Therefore Federal Rule 27: Civil Proceedures. I don't really know., I assume...
In a hearing., Judge Perry did reprimended Cheney Mason, after Linda Drane Burdick informed Judge Perry , that information into a Probate Court case..and a witness in the Anthony case had been judged irreliable and discarded by Mason...Judge Perry told Mason it was NOT up to him to Decide ,if a witness in the case was reliable or not...
Does the above implicates the State withholding exculpatory evidence? Or permissable by Federal Rules 27.,after the facts?
I do trust the Federal Court Judge will give Merits to all documentation and judge accordingly in all fairness!
That's All Folks!!!
8026

Level 6

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#507051 Sep 1, 2013
Clarification_Dayz wrote:
<quoted text> Don't confuse a search warrant affidavit with seized property. They didn't find Caylee's original clothes, pursuant the warrant.
They have NEVER found Caylee's original clothes -- the garments 'Credible George' saw Caylee wearing as she leaves the house ALIVE.
By law there MUST be a Numbered List and Description of EVERY ITEMS obtained and removed from the household!

A Search Warrant is signed by a Judge...to legally allow the search...before the search!

It definatly does NOT include the Property, nor a credible George deposition All in One Doc!!

I guess it's an HLN Doc mixed in by the my orangeclerk.org
or ngracie got her own myorangeclerk.com *&^%$#@

Who Know's?
2714

Level 6

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#507052 Sep 1, 2013
hey marce wrote:
<quoted text>
The murder of Caylee Anthony is not a 'cold case.' Casey was acquitted during trial. The judicial process considers the case closed.
A cold case means investigative leads have gone nowhere. There is no suspect.
That's because there was NO MURDER ....Marce!

You say NO SUSPECT? Not even a doubt about Georgy?

Casey was acquited...meaning found Not Guilty of Murder...
amidst the conclusion of the Prosecution and furthermore Judge Perry himself saying Casey was Guilty of Murder!!! She'll have to answer to God!

So what is it? Was there a Murder or No Murder...
If Casey is not responsable for the murder...of those remains Roy Kronk located in the wood...then Who did?

Why is it that: NO ONE CARES WHO KILLED CAYLEE? The Victim!
Wasn't that the MURDERED "CHILD" ?
Case Closed!

Yet the MEDIA and many on this forum..
insist that Casey did kill Caylee...Case Closed?
You Oppose the Law and The Law Oppose The Law...
By Closing the case! Probably connected with Judge
Perry's "ORDER OF RECUSAL" August 3rd 2011.

What was Caylee's Law all about again?

Is that Lawfull? For the State of Florida to Ignore
the Fact that a MURDERER is on the Loose?

In this Special Courtroom True TV Last Episode it was possible
because none of the evidences confirmed even., that those remains did belong to the child that women was accused of killing...

But knowing all this from the start...and allowing it for a reward only known to themselves is what is NOT SO COOL!

Think what you want...
8092

Level 4

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#507054 Sep 1, 2013
Murphey_Law wrote:
<quoted text>
That's because there was NO MURDER ....Marce!
You say NO SUSPECT? Not even a doubt about Georgy?
Casey was acquited...meaning found Not Guilty of Murder...
amidst the conclusion of the Prosecution and furthermore Judge Perry himself saying Casey was Guilty of Murder!!! She'll have to answer to God!
So what is it? Was there a Murder or No Murder...
If Casey is not responsable for the murder...of those remains Roy Kronk located in the wood...then Who did?
Why is it that: NO ONE CARES WHO KILLED CAYLEE? The Victim!
Wasn't that the MURDERED "CHILD" ?
Case Closed!
Yet the MEDIA and many on this forum..
insist that Casey did kill Caylee...Case Closed?
You Oppose the Law and The Law Oppose The Law...
By Closing the case! Probably connected with Judge
Perry's "ORDER OF RECUSAL" August 3rd 2011.
What was Caylee's Law all about again?
Is that Lawfull? For the State of Florida to Ignore
the Fact that a MURDERER is on the Loose?
In this Special Courtroom True TV Last Episode it was possible
because none of the evidences confirmed even., that those remains did belong to the child that women was accused of killing...
But knowing all this from the start...and allowing it for a reward only known to themselves is what is NOT SO COOL!
Think what you want...
8092
There is no need for you to be so confused. It can all be answered in 5 words ! Casey got away with murder !

Level 4

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#507055 Sep 1, 2013
By Hal Boedeker and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel

5:58 p.m. EDT, August 20, 2013

If Casey Anthony ever decides to sell her story, two Los Angeles-based producers say they're interested in buying.

The producers, say they've already offered as much as $1 million for Anthony's account, and remain hopeful that a deal could be worked out.

Anthony's civil attorney, Charles Greene, strongly denied that anyone authorized to speak for his client had fielded any such offers.

"We're not looking for any offers, we're not soliciting any offers... I never received one from either one of those names," Greene said when asked by the Sentinel.

One of the producers, Howard Schultz of Lighthearted Entertainment, says he made an offer for Anthony to appear on a special edition of "The Moment of Truth." In that show, which ran on Fox, participants take lie detector tests while being asked uncomfortable personal questions usually in front of family members and win money for truthful answers.

"The prize money on the original version went as high as a half million," Schultz said. "In her case, I was prepared to increase that to like $1 million."

Caseys lawyer Green, told the Sentinel he recalled hearing something like the Aaron offer "through the grapevine," but "thought it was a joke... It's just so absurd to think that somebody would even consider such a proposal."
Riverside

Riverside, CA

#507057 Sep 1, 2013
Aaron told the Sentinel he discussed his offer with Michael Wright, a publicist for attorney Jose Baez, who defended Anthony in her murder trial. Wright said he sent the offer to Greene.

Schultz said he has reached out to Greene, but never received a response, and also talked to Baez.

Greene told the Sentinel he recalled hearing something like the Aaron offer "through the grapevine," but "thought it was a joke... It's just so absurd to think that somebody would even consider such a proposal."

Aaron says he offered $50,000 to be paid when Anthony arrived for a recorded interview at a therapist's office,$450,000 upon completion of the filmed interview and $500,000 from any network deal to present the interview.

"The whole point was to somehow create a million-dollar advance," Aaron said.

Schultz said a "Moment of Truth" special could give Anthony a way to clear her name and answer the public's questions.

"If she had nothing to do with the death of her child, if that were to come out on the show, and she could come out of hiding, it would be good for her," Schultz said. "I think many people assume she's guilty. I have no idea. I believe in the power of the polygraph."

Greene said he believed Schultz and Aaron were among several people purported to have made offers that Anthony's bankruptcy trustee investigated and determined weren't legitimate.

Allan Watkins, the attorney representing Anthony's Chapter 7 trustee Stephen Meininger, didn't return a call seeking comment.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507058 Sep 1, 2013
Murphey_Law wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right Rambler...
This is why I repeatedly said..."If this is not a huge misunderstanding., then., It's outright deceitful!
I can only assume that the meeting I had with Sheriff Whiddon,
et al., shortly before my sighting , on June 19th 2008...did apply to Federal Authorities..Therefore Federal Rule 27: Civil Proceedures. I don't really know., I assume...
In a hearing., Judge Perry did reprimended Cheney Mason, after Linda Drane Burdick informed Judge Perry , that information into a Probate Court case..and a witness in the Anthony case had been judged irreliable and discarded by Mason...Judge Perry told Mason it was NOT up to him to Decide ,if a witness in the case was reliable or not...
Does the above implicates the State withholding exculpatory evidence? Or permissable by Federal Rules 27.,after the facts?
I do trust the Federal Court Judge will give Merits to all documentation and judge accordingly in all fairness!
That's All Folks!!!
8026
The email from the person you claim to be was recently removed from the Court file.

That alone suggests either it's known you're not legitimate or you're being investigated. Yet you think a bankruptcy judge is going to resolve all your problems?

Total foolishness!
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507060 Sep 1, 2013
Riverside wrote:
Allan Watkins, the attorney representing Anthony's Chapter 7 trustee Stephen Meininger, didn't return a call seeking comment.
No wonder. The media can't get it's story straight. It was already widely reported a friend of Casey's loaned her $25,000 so she could own the rights to her life and use the proceeds to satisfy all the creditors.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507061 Sep 1, 2013
n-dis-grace wrote:
<quoted text>
If anyone could pass a polygraph test with flying colors it would be KC..... She believes her own lies.
Where's the boycott, the online petition, the online rage from all the Justice ghouls who don't want her to make any money?

Level 4

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#507063 Sep 1, 2013
Rambler wrote:
<quoted text>
Where's the boycott, the online petition, the online rage from all the Justice ghouls who don't want her to make any money?
The more money she makes the more she can pay out ! Who knows if she gets a few bucks maybe George and Cindy will blackmail her.
Bet it would make Roy Kronk and Zenaida Tim Miller smile
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507064 Sep 1, 2013
Murphey_Law wrote:
<quoted text>
By law there MUST be a Numbered List and Description of EVERY ITEMS obtained and removed from the household!
A Search Warrant is signed by a Judge...to legally allow the search...before the search!
It definatly does NOT include the Property, nor a credible George deposition All in One Doc!!
I guess it's an HLN Doc mixed in by the my orangeclerk.org
or ngracie got her own myorangeclerk.com *&^%$#@
Who Know's?
2714
A United States search warrant outlines what is being search for.......ngracie made an assumption it disclosed found items because she didn't do her homework. Are you new to the case as well?

United States[edit source | editbeta]
Request for a search warrant
..........Under the Fourth Amendment, searches must be reasonable and specific. This means that a search warrant must be specific as to the specified object to be searched for and the place to be searched. Other items, rooms, outbuildings, persons, vehicles, etc. may require additional search warrants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_warrant
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507065 Sep 1, 2013
cindLee wrote:
<quoted text> The more money she makes the more she can pay out ! Who knows if she gets a few bucks maybe George and Cindy will blackmail her.
Bet it would make Roy Kronk and Zenaida Tim Miller smile
What nonsense, you're twisting the plot. The story is Roy Kronk, Zenaida and Tim Miller desperately want their debts to be EXEMPT from bankruptcy action. That means if Casey earned any money to pay creditors prior to her discharge they wouldn't see a penny of it.

And if Casey wanted to make a million from trashy entertainment shows to pay off creditors, she could have done so and avoided filing for bankruptcy.

You've become a Jose Baez supporter, who the media continues to report is the largest creditor?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507066 Sep 1, 2013
OT

These numbers do not add up.

Dig at former Florida reform school yields parts of coffin, bone fragments
By Rich Phillips, CNN
updated 9:33 PM EDT, Sun September 1, 2013

......Nearly 100 children died while at the school, according to state and school records, many as a result of a tragic dormitory fire in 1914 and a deadly flu epidemic in 1918. But the poorly kept state records cannot account for what happened to 22 other children who died, and no one knows who is buried where.

Last year, the research team used ground-penetrating radar and found that there are as many as 19 more bodies buried in the surrounding area, completely unmarked.

After clearing the area, the team determined that at least 50 graves exist.....

At Crist's request, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement launched an investigation, and its final report in 2009 accounted for 31 boys buried in the cemetery...(coincidently--)... ..The site being excavated this weekend is outside of a small, unkept patch of land with 31 white crosses that mark the final resting places for the unknown students who the state has confirmed were buried there.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/01/us/florida-boys...

*******

If an unknkwn number of graves were unmarked and nobody reported these children missing at the time, how can it be determined they ever attended the school? This story is somewhat confusing.

Wasn't this the same centenary where a construction company accidentally excavated human remains awhile ago?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507067 Sep 1, 2013
* cemetery
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507068 Sep 1, 2013
Investigators: Graves at reform school site hold fire, flu victims

updated 2:14 p.m. EDT, Fri May 15, 2009

Florida's governor, Charlie Crist, had ordered an investigation to determine who is buried in the 31 unnamed graves.

The graves are in a secluded area on the property of what was the Florida School for Boys in Marianna, a town near the Georgia border.

The FDLE says that records have determined that the cemetery was known to everyone back in the early 1900s, and the details got lost in time.

"There was enough information available to establish their identities and the cause of death," said Mark Perez of the FDLE.

However, the FDLE has not been able to determine why the graves are not marked with headstones or any other identifiers.

"That's the million-dollar question. We can't find any records why they weren't marked," he said.

But records have determined that the remains are those of boys who died in a fire at the reform school in 1914. Many of these victims were orphans and indigents whose families could not afford to have the bodies shipped home. And so, the FDLE said, they were buried at the school.

Others died in a flu epidemic, in about 1918.

According to the FDLE, among the remains are those of one reform school boy who was slain by another student. Other graves are those of pets.

The deaths were reported extensively in local news coverage, and even in a newsletter that was published, at the reform school, called "The Yellow Jacket."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/15/florida.b...

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So Charlie Crist ordered an investigation into the 31 graves marked with crosses, but instead "the site being excavated this weekend is outside of a small, unkept patch of land with 31 white crosses that mark the final resting places for the unknown students who the state has confirmed were buried there".
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#507069 Sep 1, 2013
"Roger Kiser is one of the former students who pushed for the investigation. He's written a book on the alleged abuse at the school and says that the FDLE has yet to contact him, despite, he says, witnessing two deaths at the school.

"My personal feeling is that the State of Florida does not want to know the truth. It is just too horrible a tragedy for the general public to learn about," he wrote in an e-mail to CNN."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/15/florida.b...

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Hmmmm.......I can't see where he " pushed" for an investigation but he sure loves the media spotlight.

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