CASEY: Does the State Have the Goods ...

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#503851 May 30, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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Please review your post to which I replied to, instead of taking my reply out of context and spinning it off into orbit!
I did, I did, and I did.

No spin there on my part.

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#503852 May 30, 2013
GloomyRDarwin wrote:
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Still jonesin' for the dregs of the Casey got away with murder drug for the disenfranchised and socially inept, EH?
Such is the strange mind of the psychopath.
Is it just baby killers you get off on? There's a new murderer in town that killed her boyfriend and got away with it.
Probably not an ugly enough to get you high though. Her victim wasn't totally dependent on her for safety, security, protection from people who might want to harm him, like say her baby would have been.
LOL.....sorry, but I follow, and support, the rule of law.

No new killer is roaming the streets, at least not in the recent verdict you cited. The fact is, neither side could determine who was holding the gun when it discharged. Sad case but a true verdict, based upon the rule of law.

OT: I am gearing up for the GZ trial.......pretty worried about the potential fallout from that, as are many others around these parts, regardless of the verdict.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#503853 May 30, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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This is probably your most laughable spin to date, or I've given you way too much credit for being smart.
It's NOT about what was said/not said, implied/not implied, to Casey, by LE.
Casey's "message" stands alone.
Whatever......but THEY clearly communicates the fact Caylee's disappearance would be "pinned"on Casey if she didn't quit lying, even going so far as to insinuate the child's body might be found in a dumpster, she might have drowned in a pool iirc.. Instead Casey insisted on "sticking to her story" even though "they" adamantly insisted it was not true - by that point in time YM had already learned nobody lived at #210 by the name of Zenaida Gonzlez, in fact the apartment had no tenants at all - it was empty, and Casey did not work at Universal Studios so she has no reason for Caylee to require "a nanny".

If you must wipe that from your memory in order to stand Casey's "message" alone, then congratulations - it's a great day......you have successfully proven your point to yourself!

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#503854 May 30, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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I did, I did, and I did.
No spin there on my part.
Ngace...

What about The Statute of limitations?
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#503855 May 30, 2013
Specifically in the Ninth District as per Federal Laws, Rules nd Regulations..
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Rambler

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#503856 May 30, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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Boy, you're getting nastier and nastier......what's up with all the snide remarks?
Your nastiness is overriding your ability to read between the lines. No, I take that back, too.
I should have said, your nastiness is causing you to miss the point. RK, ZofK, TM/TES, have already inserted themselves into the BK case, so says Judge May himself in his last ruling, when he ordered that the civil cases must be heard first before they could file their opposition to the BK filing.
I wrote at that time, which you also made some nasty comment on but never answered my question, that I questioned if Judge May was saying the BK could not be discharged until after the civil cases were heard.
That I comprehend the legal definition of a CREDITOR means who a debtor is financially OBLIGATED toward makes me nasty? LOL

Google it!

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#503857 May 30, 2013
BK DOC 102

Filed today's date, on behalf of ZofK.

NOTICE OF FILING AFFIDAVIT OF JOHN DILL, ESQ

5- That all witnesses that are to testify at trial, resides in or near, Orange County, Florida. Most are law enforcement or lay witnesses who reside in Orange County, Florida.

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"Message in a bottle?" I don't think this is what Judge Munyon had in mind when she ordered that Casey's location would be turned over to ZoK's civil attorneys but that info must be kept confidential.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong.

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#503858 May 30, 2013
Ooops, forgot to add "ALL"....

BK DOC 102

Filed today's date, on behalf of ZofK.

NOTICE OF FILING AFFIDAVIT OF JOHN DILL, ESQ

5- That all witnesses that are to testify at trial, resides in or near, Orange County, Florida. Most are law enforcement or lay witnesses who "ALL" reside in Orange County, Florida.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#503859 May 30, 2013
Murphey_Law wrote:
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Ngace...
What about The Statute of limitations?
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Both 40ish, mother of six - Zenaida Gonzalez of Kissimmee's and Roy Kronk's civil suit - if they were anything close to the storyline - would have been tossed years ago because Casey made defamatory statements toward neither of them, and information provided to authorities during the course of an active investigation is exempt from defamation.

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In Florida, a private figure plaintiff bringing a defamation lawsuit generally must prove that the defendant was at least negligent with respect to the truth or falsity of the allegedly defamatory statements. Public officials, all-purpose public figures, and limited-purpose public figures must prove that the defendant acted with actual malice, i.e., knowing that the statements were false or recklessly disregarding their falsity. See the general page on actual malice and negligence for details on these standards.
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/florida-defam...
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#503860 May 30, 2013
ngrace wrote:
BK DOC 102
Filed today's date, on behalf of ZofK.
NOTICE OF FILING AFFIDAVIT OF JOHN DILL, ESQ
5- That all witnesses that are to testify at trial, resides in or near, Orange County, Florida. Most are law enforcement or lay witnesses who reside in Orange County, Florida.
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"Message in a bottle?" I don't think this is what Judge Munyon had in mind when she ordered that Casey's location would be turned over to ZoK's civil attorneys but that info must be kept confidential.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong.
You, who insist the ENTIRE police file in the case against Casey Anthony was released in discovery are now speculating "law enforcement or lay witnesses" have been withholding "confidentisl" information relative to a missing child investigation - max five year penalty! And if these parties were withholding confidential information, how then did it get leaked - resulting in defamation of either of the two.....hmmmmm? That doesn't fit the definition of defamation......

You really want to go down that rocky road?

“Trixie”

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the mad russian

#503861 May 30, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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It doesn't matter, Marce, if it was said/not said, true or not true.
Casey's message, after she was already under arrest, was still delivered:
"They already said if they don't find her, they're going to pin this on me."
Casey chose her words very carefully, imo. If Casey murdered her child, "finding her" would be the last thing she would want to happen.
If Casey murdered her child, her statement should have been: "They already said, if they don't find her, they won't be able to pin this on me."
The truth of the matter, as far as what LE did or didn't tell her, makes no difference......but the phrasing of her statement does.
Andrea Lyon argued before the court (Defective Indictment), after Casey was indicted for murder 1, and after Caylee's remains were found, that finding her made the State's case harder because they couldn't determine cause of death, which turned out to be true.
"They already said, if they don't find her, they're going to pin this on me", would have been the last thing Casey would say....if she murdered her daughter.
"It was an accident, that snowballed out of control."
Like the ancient Romans divining chicken entrails, you read so much into what Casey said. She 'chose her words very carefully'? How on earth would you know that?

You read into Casey's statements exactly what you want there to be.

“Twofer one”

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isn't always a deal

#503862 May 30, 2013
Casey only said those words trying to deflect suspicion away awy from herself.

Casey killed Caylee, if she didn't why didn't she ever say anything after Caylee's body was found?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#503863 May 30, 2013
WAS sanka wrote:
Casey only said those words trying to deflect suspicion away awy from herself.
Casey killed Caylee, if she didn't why didn't she ever say anything after Caylee's body was found?
There are numerous CLUES interviews with Casey took place AFTER Casey was arrested, but they were obviously sealed by court order, contained no incriminating information against her and therefore have never been publicly released.

When Lawson Lamar stepped down, he said so.......the State only released information in discovery which they were legally required to.

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#503864 May 30, 2013
marcemon wrote:
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Like the ancient Romans divining chicken entrails, you read so much into what Casey said. She 'chose her words very carefully'? How on earth would you know that?
You read into Casey's statements exactly what you want there to be.
Maybe so, Marce, maybe so.

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#503865 May 30, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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There are numerous CLUES interviews with Casey took place AFTER Casey was arrested, but they were obviously sealed by court order, contained no incriminating information against her and therefore have never been publicly released.
When Lawson Lamar stepped down, he said so.......the State only released information in discovery which they were legally required to.
Rambler, you are reading it wrong.

Insert comma after the word, discovery.

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#503866 May 30, 2013
WAS sanka wrote:
Casey only said those words trying to deflect suspicion away awy from herself.
Casey killed Caylee, if she didn't why didn't she ever say anything after Caylee's body was found?
It depends upon "say anything" to whom. We'll never know what she said to her attorneys.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#503867 May 30, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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Rambler, you are reading it wrong.
Insert comma after the word, discovery.
Have it your way - so there's no police officers or lay persons able to testify in the fantasy civil suits!

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#503868 May 30, 2013
Rambler wrote:
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You, who insist the ENTIRE police file in the case against Casey Anthony was released in discovery are now speculating "law enforcement or lay witnesses" have been withholding "confidentisl" information relative to a missing child investigation - max five year penalty! And if these parties were withholding confidential information, how then did it get leaked - resulting in defamation of either of the two.....hmmmmm? That doesn't fit the definition of defamation......
You really want to go down that rocky road?
I've never said the entire police file was released.

If anyone was withholding evidence, don't ya think the defense would have let the entire world know about it?
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#503869 May 30, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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I've never said the entire police file was released.
If anyone was withholding evidence, don't ya think the defense would have let the entire world know about it?
No, it's known as preservation of evidence!

I've always said the trial was only A Big Show and it was known Casey (or what's her name) was innocent long before she was ever acquitted......and for her personsl safety she's protected in a Witness Protection Program.

Everyone involved is probably laughing their heads of at your futile attemps to keep a stupd fantasy alive.

“Twofer one”

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isn't always a deal

#503870 May 30, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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It depends upon "say anything" to whom. We'll never know what she said to her attorneys.
You are nuts.

Why wouldn't any of them want Caylee's killer caught?
Oh, that's right, it WAS Casey.

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