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#503253 May 6, 2013
WAS sanka wrote:
http://www.today.com/news/case y-anthony-judge-felt-shock-dis belief-not-guilty-verdict-6C97 91042?lite=
Two years after jury selection began for the Casey Anthony murder trial, Judge Belvin Perry, who presided over the case, said the Florida mother was "very manipulative."
"There were two sides to Casey Anthony," he told Savannah Guthrie on TODAY Monday in an exclusive interview. "There was the side that was before the jury, where she portrayed the role of a mother who had lost a child, someone who was wrongfully accused, and then you could notice the change and transformation in her when the jury went out.
Scary to think that all rulings made in the case where made by a Judge who was sworn to set his own personal opinion about guilt or innocence aside when handing down said rulings.

Scary to think that same Judge could remain unbiased in his decisions, especially in a death penalty case.

Scary to think that same Judge had 2 of his 4 charges overturned.

Scary to think that same Judge would acknowledge:

"All the defense had to do was create reasonable doubt, which they did",

but be "shocked and surprised" at the jury's verdict given that his OWN jury instructions were prefaced with:

"In order to find the defendant guilty of murder in the first degree, the State must convince you beyond a reasonable doubt of the defendantís guilt of either premeditated murder or felony murder. While you must all agree that the State has proven first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt, you need not be unanimous in your opinion as to whether that finding is based upon premeditated murder or felony murder as I shall now define those terms."

Scary any way you look at it..........but given the rumor that the good Judge is considering a career post retirement, as a media talking head, not surprising at all.

Cha-ching.

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#503254 May 6, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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Scary to think that all rulings made in the case where made by a Judge who was sworn to set his own personal opinion about guilt or innocence aside when handing down said rulings.
Scary to think that same Judge could remain unbiased in his decisions, especially in a death penalty case.
Scary to think that same Judge had 2 of his 4 charges overturned.
Scary to think that same Judge would acknowledge:
"All the defense had to do was create reasonable doubt, which they did",
but be "shocked and surprised" at the jury's verdict given that his OWN jury instructions were prefaced with:
"In order to find the defendant guilty of murder in the first degree, the State must convince you beyond a reasonable doubt of the defendantís guilt of either premeditated murder or felony murder. While you must all agree that the State has proven first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt, you need not be unanimous in your opinion as to whether that finding is based upon premeditated murder or felony murder as I shall now define those terms."
Scary any way you look at it..........but given the rumor that the good Judge is considering a career post retirement, as a media talking head, not surprising at all.
Cha-ching.
Ditto ngrace! I knew as soon as I saw that article that the posts would start. BP should be ashamed of himself.

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#503255 May 6, 2013
Nuthutters46er wrote:
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Ditto ngrace! I knew as soon as I saw that article that the posts would start. BP should be ashamed of himself.
I agree. Casey wasn't two-faced. She was four-faced.

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#503256 May 6, 2013
Nuthutters46er wrote:
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Ditto ngrace! I knew as soon as I saw that article that the posts would start. BP should be ashamed of himself.
Thank heavens the "Judge of Judges" was presiding over this case, in spite of the clear bias shown by the sitting judge.

"All the defense had to do was create reasonable doubt, which they did." - Judge Belvin Perry

Oh really, is that "all"? It's a wonder, then, why anyone is ever convicted if that's "all" it takes.

lol

"Justice will finally be served one day by the Judge of Judges" - Judge Belvin Perry

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/casey-anth...

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#503259 May 6, 2013
tribe mom wrote:
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I agree. Casey wasn't two-faced. She was four-faced.
TM, common sense here.......every defendant acts differently when the jury is not seated.

Funny thing is,("in a backwards sort of way") Perry's comment only served to reinforce Casey's handwritten comment made early on in the case, "I think Mr. Ashton is mad at me for not confessing to something I did not do".

I'd be shouting at my lawyers, too, for trying to convince me to take the State's deal for something I did not do.

One thing's for sure......he inadvertently confirmed that another statement in Jeff's book was false.
Rambler

Red Deer, Canada

#503260 May 6, 2013
How many various types of possible charges were written into the jurors instructions which the jury must consider (regardless that she wasn't indicted for anything but 1st degree murder), did anyone keep count?

There was at least a half a dozen. The instructions read if the jury doesn't unanimously find her guilty of 1st degree, then they must consider if she's guilty of 2nd degree and so on down the ladder to eventually she could be found innocent.

Therefore the more time that passes, the less likelihood of her being convicted of the more serious charges..........I'm a little surprised leaving a dog unattended wasn't one of the lesser.
Rambler

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#503261 May 6, 2013
Oh pardon me....I crossed the sacred line. Wrong thread......

Psssst......ngracie will you be following the oral argument regarding the appeal of Richard Grund's failed civil suit against NE on the 14th of May?

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#503262 May 6, 2013
Rambler wrote:
Oh pardon me....I crossed the sacred line. Wrong thread......
Psssst......ngracie will you be following the oral argument regarding the appeal of Richard Grund's failed civil suit against NE on the 14th of May?
I follow all things Casey, but as this has nothing to do with her, the answer is no.

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#503264 May 6, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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TM, common sense here.......every defendant acts differently when the jury is not seated.
Funny thing is,("in a backwards sort of way") Perry's comment only served to reinforce Casey's handwritten comment made early on in the case, "I think Mr. Ashton is mad at me for not confessing to something I did not do".
I'd be shouting at my lawyers, too, for trying to convince me to take the State's deal for something I did not do.
One thing's for sure......he inadvertently confirmed that another statement in Jeff's book was false.
...especially when they're guilty as sin.

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#503267 May 6, 2013
n-dis-grace wrote:
IMO, Casey could be very rich, if she were to actually tell the truth about how she accidently killed Caylee in a fit of rage against her mother Cindy.
Casey CAN NOT be convicted of that crime no matter what she says or does. My opinion is that Casey killed by accident, and if she had a chance to say that it was an accident She might take it and run. She has nothing to lose and everything to gain Now by admitting her guilt and asking for forgiveness.
I would pay top dollar for a book that Casey admitted what she did.. It was a bad situation, Cindy is a terrible mother, and Casey snapped. If a person tells the truth, no matter what the crime, if they come clean they should be forgiven.
I don't like Casey Anthony, but I think she killed by accident to spite her mother.
So if she told a story that you believe is true, then that would be okay with you?

When a case is built upon nothing other than circumstantial evidence, and none of that circumstantial evidence holds up under cross examination, don't you think maybe it's because a crime wasn't committed by the accused?

Unlike the salacious Jodi case, there was nothing even close to any evidence, circumstantial or not, in this case. Even the timeline doesn't fit....a timeline which the GJ said happened sometime between June 15th and July 16th, 2008. That should tell you something about the truth of what happened to Caylee.

Accidents don't sell.......kinky sex does.

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#503269 May 6, 2013
n-dis-grace wrote:
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NO, If she told the truth about what she did I would believe her because it's true that she killed.
Judge Belvin Perry says there was ample eveidence and he is way more believable and upstanding than you or your opinion will eve be.
Sorry you haven't had none in so long, but the truth sells too. You have No clue what truth is , stands for, or means, so I would understand you being dumbfounded about now. I'm sure you will type some foolish bullshit in return. Keep trying.
She didn't kill her daughter, no matter how much you and apparently Judge Perry, think she did.

I doubt very much that either of you read all the documents released. Had Judge Perry done so, perhaps he, too, would agree that the one and only person who placed Caylee in Casey's care the last time she was allegedly seen, had serious credibility issues gleaned from his own words in those docs.

I'm sorry, but when someone isn't credible, especially in a death penalty case, I tend to give everything they say a second look.

There is much more circumstantial evidence that Caylee drowned than there is of a murder.

Now you can call that BS or whatever you want to call it, but I call it common sense, especially in a death penalty case. You should look at this in the judicial light of, there but for the grace of God, could go I.

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#503272 May 6, 2013
n-dis-grace wrote:
Hmmmm, should I believe a Man like Belvin Perry, or a want to be ngrace that can't explain just what happen to her very own children, yet uses it as an excuse for killer Casey to blame her own father for the killing of Caylee. Did the PTSD drive George to kill his one and only Grandbaby? I think not, Geo the scape goat. Anyone Blaming George is clearly in sane. Capice
You can copy my avatar, copy my name, but you can't spin my words into saying anything even close to what you're saying I said.

Belvin Perry is just a man, he's not the be all end all when it comes to everyday choices we all have to make.

In fact, what he did by giving today's interview while still a sitting judge, will raise more than a few eyebrows. JQC comes to mind.
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#503273 May 6, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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She didn't kill her daughter, no matter how much you and apparently Judge Perry, think she did.
I doubt very much that either of you read all the documents released. Had Judge Perry done so, perhaps he, too, would agree that the one and only person who placed Caylee in Casey's care the last time she was allegedly seen, had serious credibility issues gleaned from his own words in those docs.
I'm sorry, but when someone isn't credible, especially in a death penalty case, I tend to give everything they say a second look.
There is much more circumstantial evidence that Caylee drowned than there is of a murder.
Now you can call that BS or whatever you want to call it, but I call it common sense, especially in a death penalty case. You should look at this in the judicial light of, there but for the grace of God, could go I.
What makes you think she didn't Kill her child ???
even the jury said they felt she did.

Was it because Nutty murphey said she seen her three days later ????? Bet you think Jodi didn't really kill Travis too!

Look at all the judges that have commented on Casey getting away with murder. It aint just Judge Perry talking.
Revenge for Casey is just around the corner.

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#503274 May 6, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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Scary to think that all rulings made in the case where made by a Judge who was sworn to set his own personal opinion about guilt or innocence aside when handing down said rulings.
Scary to think that same Judge could remain unbiased in his decisions, especially in a death penalty case.
Scary to think that same Judge had 2 of his 4 charges overturned.
Scary to think that same Judge would acknowledge:
"All the defense had to do was create reasonable doubt, which they did",
but be "shocked and surprised" at the jury's verdict given that his OWN jury instructions were prefaced with:
"In order to find the defendant guilty of murder in the first degree, the State must convince you beyond a reasonable doubt of the defendantís guilt of either premeditated murder or felony murder. While you must all agree that the State has proven first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt, you need not be unanimous in your opinion as to whether that finding is based upon premeditated murder or felony murder as I shall now define those terms."
Scary any way you look at it..........but given the rumor that the good Judge is considering a career post retirement, as a media talking head, not surprising at all.
Cha-ching.
Baez CREATED reasonable doubt. I've capitalized the word so you can pay attention to it and give thought to what it means.

Baez = salesman

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#503275 May 6, 2013
Nuthutters46er wrote:
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Ditto ngrace! I knew as soon as I saw that article that the posts would start. BP should be ashamed of himself.
You figured that out all by yourself?

Moms that kill......

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#503276 May 6, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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TM, common sense here.......every defendant acts differently when the jury is not seated.
Funny thing is,("in a backwards sort of way") Perry's comment only served to reinforce Casey's handwritten comment made early on in the case, "I think Mr. Ashton is mad at me for not confessing to something I did not do".
I'd be shouting at my lawyers, too, for trying to convince me to take the State's deal for something I did not do.
One thing's for sure......he inadvertently confirmed that another statement in Jeff's book was false.
Exactly how many times have you shouted at your lawyers?

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#503277 May 6, 2013
ngrace wrote:
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She didn't kill her daughter, no matter how much you and apparently Judge Perry, think she did.
Yes, she did, that is why she hides.

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#503278 May 6, 2013
Riverside wrote:
<quoted text> What makes you think she didn't Kill her child ???
even the jury said they felt she did.
Was it because Nutty murphey said she seen her three days later ????? Bet you think Jodi didn't really kill Travis too!
Look at all the judges that have commented on Casey getting away with murder. It aint just Judge Perry talking.
Revenge for Casey is just around the corner.
The only thing Murph sees is the bottom a bottle, daily.

Casey will live her years out in fear, compliments of the Pinellas 12. Will be fun to watch and read all about.

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#503279 May 6, 2013
Double Jeopardy wrote:
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Baez CREATED reasonable doubt. I've capitalized the word so you can pay attention to it and give thought to what it means.
Baez = salesman
Baez RAISED reasonable doubt.

Ditto on the capitalization.

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#503280 May 6, 2013
Double Jeopardy wrote:
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Yes, she did, that is why she hides.
No she didn't, and no it's not why she is been forced to hide.

It's interesting that Judge Perry finds that okay.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/justice-w...

"Perry said Anthony is serving a different kind of sentence.

He said she will have to deal with her new reality for the rest of her life."

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