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Dec 14, 2012
 
KC H8TRS R DOLTS wrote:
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Then you should know.....
FBI TESTIMONY + NO EVIDENCE = ACQUITTAL
Then you should know that acquittal does not = innocent, and while I have your attention, there is no need to shout at me. I can read :-)

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Who's stalking? I'm just trying to connect with an old acquaintance.:)
Oh, you mean you're playing your pretend to be someone you're not game again, and creaming in your pants I bet. SMFH
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DillinghamLawFirm wrote:
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Such uncivil and insulting communication guarantees that I will never again reply to any of your questions.
:laughs uncontrollably:

That's okay because I could easily tell you weren't prepared to tackle the issue of fabricated evidence. Much less with me.

You are a little out of your league, counselor.

I figured I would gently insult you to give you an out, to let you save face in front of your new Topix friends.
It worked like a charm.

Who said I can't predict outcomes?
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KC H8TRS R DOLTS wrote:
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Pay attention. They didn't say verbatim that Casey didn't do it.
The totality of their testimony was such that they ALL BUT danced on the Judge's bench to declare "CASEY DIDN'T DO IT!"
They stopped just short of doing that. They didn't have to do that.
Obviously the jury "got it" just by simply listening intently to the FBI witnesses testimony.
The jurors weren't distracted by talking heads, forums, blogs and journos.
They were 100% FOCUSED on what the FBI had to say.
Had you been 100% FOCUSED on what the FBI had to say -- you might understand the verdict.
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""Obviously the jury "got it" just by simply listening intently to the FBI witnesses testimony"'

Liar::

The Jury spokesman stated they didnt say she was quilty,but they thought there wasnt enough evidence to convict.
And the real reason for thier decision is the fact they were to damn ignorant to understand the evidence the state did present ( which was way more than enough both circumstantial and forensic),and the fact they were more interested in how much money they would be making off thier TV interviews.
But like Casey,they are resigned to hiding like rat's for fear of thier inaility to weigh the evidence honestly.
I still say that brolin was ther for one reason, to get all the names of the juror's and investigate thier criminal possability's and thier relatives also,with many of those jurors relatives in the Pen with Brolin's husband,it wouldnt take much influence to have the jury find her innocent.
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KC H8TRS R DOLTS wrote:
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:laughs uncontrollably:
That's okay because I could easily tell you weren't prepared to tackle the issue of fabricated evidence. Much less with me.
You are a little out of your league, counselor.
I figured I would gently insult you to give you an out, to let you save face in front of your new Topix friends.
It worked like a charm.
Who said I can't predict outcomes?
He'd never be able to handle Tannenbaum.
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REMEMBER CAYLEE wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you explain it for the class, and I mean FACTS and not one of you wacky conspiracy theories :-)
The FACTS are:

1- The Pontiac was towed by Johnson's towing on June 30, 2008, under a private tow agreement between Amscot and Johnson's.
The documents and testimony support that FACT.

2- The Pontiac was retrieved on July 15, 2008 from Johnson's towing, by the lawful owners, who assumed the financial obligation for the PRIVATE TOW & STORAGE.
The documents and testimony support that FACT

3 - There were no witness statements - law enforcement narrative summaries - affidavits -- search/seize warrants - law enforcement vehicle release documents - or any testimony to suggest that OCSO impounded Casey's vehicle - or assisted in the removal of the PRIVATE TOW - or completed an altered impound form on June 30, 2008.
This FACT is also supported by the documents and the testimony.

If you grasp the complexity that 1+1=2 -- then you can grasp the FACT that a document from an unrelated 2007 impound, bearing white out correction fluid and filled back in with the Pontiac's information, dated June 30, 2008 -- is fabricated evidence in a missing person's case.

It shouldn't be that difficult for someone with your kindergarten intelligence to know when a document is woefully out of place.
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Diane Ax wrote:
<quoted text> He'd never be able to handle Tannenbaum.
Oh, hell naw!

Tannebaum would chew his lilly liver up and spit it out by breakfast.

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Dec 14, 2012
 
KC H8TRS R DOLTS wrote:
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The FACTS are:
1- The Pontiac was towed by Johnson's towing on June 30, 2008, under a private tow agreement between Amscot and Johnson's.
The documents and testimony support that FACT.
2- The Pontiac was retrieved on July 15, 2008 from Johnson's towing, by the lawful owners, who assumed the financial obligation for the PRIVATE TOW & STORAGE.
The documents and testimony support that FACT
3 - There were no witness statements - law enforcement narrative summaries - affidavits -- search/seize warrants - law enforcement vehicle release documents - or any testimony to suggest that OCSO impounded Casey's vehicle - or assisted in the removal of the PRIVATE TOW - or completed an altered impound form on June 30, 2008.
This FACT is also supported by the documents and the testimony.
If you grasp the complexity that 1+1=2 -- then you can grasp the FACT that a document from an unrelated 2007 impound, bearing white out correction fluid and filled back in with the Pontiac's information, dated June 30, 2008 -- is fabricated evidence in a missing person's case.
It shouldn't be that difficult for someone with your kindergarten intelligence to know when a document is woefully out of place.
As the counselor stated, it could be that the officer didn't have one handy and used the existing one,but to get to the real truth why don't you call them and find out instead of insinuating or just stf up about it.
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T-REX wrote:
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""Obviously the jury "got it" just by simply listening intently to the FBI witnesses testimony"'
Liar::
The Jury spokesman stated they didnt say she was quilty,but they thought there wasnt enough evidence to convict.
And after all that fabrication of evidence & crime staging, too.

Waste......huge waste.

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there is a shooting going on at a Connecticut elementary

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T-REX wrote:
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""Obviously the jury "got it" just by simply listening intently to the FBI witnesses testimony"'
Liar::
The Jury spokesman stated they didnt say she was quilty,but they thought there wasnt enough evidence to convict.
And the real reason for thier decision is the fact they were to damn ignorant to understand the evidence the state did present ( which was way more than enough both circumstantial and forensic),and the fact they were more interested in how much money they would be making off thier TV interviews.
But like Casey,they are resigned to hiding like rat's for fear of thier inaility to weigh the evidence honestly.
I still say that brolin was ther for one reason, to get all the names of the juror's and investigate thier criminal possability's and thier relatives also,with many of those jurors relatives in the Pen with Brolin's husband,it wouldnt take much influence to have the jury find her innocent.
This is a common misconception. Juries do not find people "innocent" in Florida. The only allowable verdicts are "Guilty" and "Not Guilty."

Ms. Anthony was not found to be "innocent." The State did not carry its burden of proof, so the jury found her "not guilty."

Innocence is not an issue for juries. Consider that a person may be charged with a crime that has four prongs of evidentiary proof, but if the State can only prove three prongs (or elements) of the crime, then the jury must find the defendant not guilty. That in no way shows innocence.

The biggest hurdle the State faced in the Anthony case was cause of death. With no trauma to the child's skeletal remains and no evidence of how the child died, the case was doomed. That essential prong was missing.(Yes, I know Dr. G. testified that the child died by homicide. Juries, though, are not bound by expert opinions and are free to disregard them--something most people do not understand).

Was Ms. Anthony "innocent"? I don't know, and that is not for the criminal justice system to decide.

Had Ms. Anthony testified, though, that the child drowned, choked on a sandwich, or that she was otherwise there when the child died, I'm of the opinion that she would have certainly been convicted of a lesser crime. Ms. Anthony is not a doctor, and the State would have righteously argued that these days, modern medicine can save people (particularly children) when they are clinically dead, and Ms. Anthony's failure to call 911 was negligence per se, and exposed her to at least an involuntary manslaughter charge.

Since Ms. Anthony did not testify, the jury was foreclosed from considering that avenue, since there was no testimony in evidence of that issue.

I gave Ms. Anthony a 75% chance of prevailing at trial. The issue that concerned me was jury nullification simply because there was a dead child involved. Such cases can turn very bad very quickly for defendant's, and I don't think Ms. Anthony would testify well on her own behalf. Frankly, I think the state would have made mincemeat out of her.

Additionally, Mr. Baez promised testimony in his opening arguments about sexual abuse that he never delivered. To lawyers, that is an extreme violation, but to juries, not so much. Mr. Baez's Discovery violations, too, were anathema to me.

Yet as Dad always said, "You can't argue with winning."

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STM wrote:
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Oh, you mean you're playing your pretend to be someone you're not game again, and creaming in your pants I bet. SMFH
Ok this post is freakin gross.
I bet you are the nastiest hostest ever.

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One child is confirmed dead! This is horrible......God be with the parents

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STM wrote:
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Oh, you mean you're playing your pretend to be someone you're not game again, and creaming in your pants I bet. SMFH
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Ok this post is freakin gross.
I bet you are the nastiest hostest ever.
I agree..... Pretty nasty....Sounded to me like a Rex post.

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CNN reported one child confirmed dead but the news is saying the shooter.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
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Nuthutters46er wrote:
CNN reported one child confirmed dead but the news is saying the shooter.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
Still have a hard time comprehending what you read dont you.

One dead ====== the shooter
One in the hospital with several bullet wound's

Nothing on any news story I have read yet confirm's any student killed,however I believe the one shot several times may not survive.
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DillinghamLawFirm wrote:
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This is a common misconception. Juries do not find people "innocent" in Florida. The only allowable verdicts are "Guilty" and "Not Guilty."
Ms. Anthony was not found to be "innocent." The State did not carry its burden of proof, so the jury found her "not guilty."
Innocence is not an issue for juries. Consider that a person may be charged with a crime that has four prongs of evidentiary proof, but if the State can only prove three prongs (or elements) of the crime, then the jury must find the defendant not guilty. That in no way shows innocence.
The biggest hurdle the State faced in the Anthony case was cause of death. With no trauma to the child's skeletal remains and no evidence of how the child died, the case was doomed. That essential prong was missing.(Yes, I know Dr. G. testified that the child died by homicide. Juries, though, are not bound by expert opinions and are free to disregard them--something most people do not understand).
Was Ms. Anthony "innocent"? I don't know, and that is not for the criminal justice system to decide.
Had Ms. Anthony testified, though, that the child drowned, choked on a sandwich, or that she was otherwise there when the child died, I'm of the opinion that she would have certainly been convicted of a lesser crime. Ms. Anthony is not a doctor, and the State would have righteously argued that these days, modern medicine can save people (particularly children) when they are clinically dead, and Ms. Anthony's failure to call 911 was negligence per se, and exposed her to at least an involuntary manslaughter charge.
Since Ms. Anthony did not testify, the jury was foreclosed from considering that avenue, since there was no testimony in evidence of that issue.
I gave Ms. Anthony a 75% chance of prevailing at trial. The issue that concerned me was jury nullification simply because there was a dead child involved. Such cases can turn very bad very quickly for defendant's, and I don't think Ms. Anthony would testify well on her own behalf. Frankly, I think the state would have made mincemeat out of her.
Additionally, Mr. Baez promised testimony in his opening arguments about sexual abuse that he never delivered. To lawyers, that is an extreme violation, but to juries, not so much. Mr. Baez's Discovery violations, too, were anathema to me.
Yet as Dad always said, "You can't argue with winning."
Yes! And the impound form is innocent, not Casey. Are you in agreement that the complaintant should file with OSCO about their lack of printed forms and having a bottle of liquid paper? Complaining on Topix about authorities zealous overuse of a common household item should be brought to the national forefront. It's a travesty when a cop uses liquid paper.

Maybe the liquid paper is what made Casey kill.

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Nuthutters46er wrote:
One child is confirmed dead! This is horrible......God be with the parents
How could anyone open fire on children?
How sad.

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T-REX wrote:
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Still have a hard time comprehending what you read dont you.
One dead ====== the shooter
One in the hospital with several bullet wound's
Nothing on any news story I have read yet confirm's any student killed,however I believe the one shot several times may not survive.
Reported on CNN, that one child is confirmed dead. I guess you didn't bother to turn on the news. I DID say that before. Comprehension problems Rex? Some child advocate you are...

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