CASEY: Does the State Have the Goods ...

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#473342 Dec 14, 2012
One child is confirmed dead! This is horrible......God be with the parents

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#473343 Dec 14, 2012
STM wrote:
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Oh, you mean you're playing your pretend to be someone you're not game again, and creaming in your pants I bet. SMFH
-Web wrote:
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Ok this post is freakin gross.
I bet you are the nastiest hostest ever.
I agree..... Pretty nasty....Sounded to me like a Rex post.

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#473344 Dec 14, 2012
CNN reported one child confirmed dead but the news is saying the shooter.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
T-REX

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#473345 Dec 14, 2012
Nuthutters46er wrote:
CNN reported one child confirmed dead but the news is saying the shooter.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
Still have a hard time comprehending what you read dont you.

One dead ====== the shooter
One in the hospital with several bullet wound's

Nothing on any news story I have read yet confirm's any student killed,however I believe the one shot several times may not survive.
Don

Miami, FL

#473346 Dec 14, 2012
DillinghamLawFirm wrote:
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This is a common misconception. Juries do not find people "innocent" in Florida. The only allowable verdicts are "Guilty" and "Not Guilty."
Ms. Anthony was not found to be "innocent." The State did not carry its burden of proof, so the jury found her "not guilty."
Innocence is not an issue for juries. Consider that a person may be charged with a crime that has four prongs of evidentiary proof, but if the State can only prove three prongs (or elements) of the crime, then the jury must find the defendant not guilty. That in no way shows innocence.
The biggest hurdle the State faced in the Anthony case was cause of death. With no trauma to the child's skeletal remains and no evidence of how the child died, the case was doomed. That essential prong was missing.(Yes, I know Dr. G. testified that the child died by homicide. Juries, though, are not bound by expert opinions and are free to disregard them--something most people do not understand).
Was Ms. Anthony "innocent"? I don't know, and that is not for the criminal justice system to decide.
Had Ms. Anthony testified, though, that the child drowned, choked on a sandwich, or that she was otherwise there when the child died, I'm of the opinion that she would have certainly been convicted of a lesser crime. Ms. Anthony is not a doctor, and the State would have righteously argued that these days, modern medicine can save people (particularly children) when they are clinically dead, and Ms. Anthony's failure to call 911 was negligence per se, and exposed her to at least an involuntary manslaughter charge.
Since Ms. Anthony did not testify, the jury was foreclosed from considering that avenue, since there was no testimony in evidence of that issue.
I gave Ms. Anthony a 75% chance of prevailing at trial. The issue that concerned me was jury nullification simply because there was a dead child involved. Such cases can turn very bad very quickly for defendant's, and I don't think Ms. Anthony would testify well on her own behalf. Frankly, I think the state would have made mincemeat out of her.
Additionally, Mr. Baez promised testimony in his opening arguments about sexual abuse that he never delivered. To lawyers, that is an extreme violation, but to juries, not so much. Mr. Baez's Discovery violations, too, were anathema to me.
Yet as Dad always said, "You can't argue with winning."
Yes! And the impound form is innocent, not Casey. Are you in agreement that the complaintant should file with OSCO about their lack of printed forms and having a bottle of liquid paper? Complaining on Topix about authorities zealous overuse of a common household item should be brought to the national forefront. It's a travesty when a cop uses liquid paper.

Maybe the liquid paper is what made Casey kill.

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#473347 Dec 14, 2012
Nuthutters46er wrote:
One child is confirmed dead! This is horrible......God be with the parents
How could anyone open fire on children?
How sad.

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#473348 Dec 14, 2012
T-REX wrote:
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Still have a hard time comprehending what you read dont you.
One dead ====== the shooter
One in the hospital with several bullet wound's
Nothing on any news story I have read yet confirm's any student killed,however I believe the one shot several times may not survive.
Reported on CNN, that one child is confirmed dead. I guess you didn't bother to turn on the news. I DID say that before. Comprehension problems Rex? Some child advocate you are...
T-REX

United States

#473349 Dec 14, 2012
Willingham Law Firm wrote:
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This is a common misconception. Juries do not find people "innocent" in Florida. The only allowable verdicts are "Guilty" and "Not Guilty."
Ms. Anthony was not found to be "innocent." The State did not carry its burden of proof, so the jury found her "not guilty."
Innocence is not an issue for juries. Consider that a person may be charged with a crime that has four prongs of evidentiary proof, but if the State can only prove three prongs (or elements) of the crime, then the jury must find the defendant not guilty. That in no way shows innocence.
The biggest hurdle the State faced in the Anthony case was cause of death. With no trauma to the child's skeletal remains and no evidence of how the child died, the case was doomed. That essential prong was missing.(Yes, I know Dr. G. testified that the child died by homicide. Juries, though, are not bound by expert opinions and are free to disregard them--something most people do not understand).
Was Ms. Anthony "innocent"? I don't know, and that is not for the criminal justice system to decide.
Had Ms. Anthony testified, though, that the child drowned, choked on a sandwich, or that she was otherwise there when the child died, I'm of the opinion that she would have certainly been convicted of a lesser crime. Ms. Anthony is not a doctor, and the State would have righteously argued that these days, modern medicine can save people (particularly children) when they are clinically dead, and Ms. Anthony's failure to call 911 was negligence per se, and exposed her to at least an involuntary manslaughter charge.
Since Ms. Anthony did not testify, the jury was foreclosed from considering that avenue, since there was no testimony in evidence of that issue.
I gave Ms. Anthony a 75% chance of prevailing at trial. The issue that concerned me was jury nullification simply because there was a dead child involved. Such cases can turn very bad very quickly for defendant's, and I don't think Ms. Anthony would testify well on her own behalf. Frankly, I think the state would have made mincemeat out of her.
Additionally, Mr. Baez promised testimony in his opening arguments about sexual abuse that he never delivered. To lawyers, that is an extreme violation, but to juries, not so much. Mr. Baez's Discovery violations, too, were anathema to me.
Yet as Dad always said, "You can't argue with winning."
""The State did not carry its burden of proof, so the jury found her "not guilty""

I doubt you are any kind of lawyer,you have Day's,nuthuggers 46er,krissy,and all the other hat's mentality.

The state presented way more than enough evidence,both circumstantial and forensic to warrant at least a man slaughter at the very least,more than enough to warrant a 2nd degree verdict also.
The jury did not consider one single thing presented by the prosecution,they didn't ask for clarification,did not ask for evidence to be looked at nothing.
There is no doubt in the majority of people's minds,Casey killed her daughter period. 31 days of not reporting her daughter missing,kidnapped,dead and absolutely no show of emotion about her loss, is enough to convict her on manslaughter.
The jury failed in their sworn statements to look at all the facts,and render a just verdict.
Now prove to me they looked at anything at all.

And besides,if your a lawyer,why did 95% of your collegues gasp at that verdict and couldnt believe what they were hearing.

STM

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#473350 Dec 14, 2012
-Web wrote:
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Ok this post is freakin gross.
I bet you are the nastiest hostest ever.
Whats a hostest, Ding Dong?

STM

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#473351 Dec 14, 2012
Nuthutters46er wrote:
STM wrote:
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Oh, you mean you're playing your pretend to be someone you're not game again, and creaming in your pants I bet. SMFH
<quoted text>
I agree..... Pretty nasty....Sounded to me like a Rex post.
Well I couldn't help but notice your excitement at thinking you found something out about Sanka~SMFH~

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#473352 Dec 14, 2012
Nuthutters46er wrote:
STM wrote:
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Oh, you mean you're playing your pretend to be someone you're not game again, and creaming in your pants I bet. SMFH
<quoted text>
I agree..... Pretty nasty....Sounded to me like a Rex post.
Well the Rex person should be more respectful.

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#473353 Dec 14, 2012
-Web wrote:
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How could anyone open fire on children?
How sad.
You prefer mothers that kill their own, correct?

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#473354 Dec 14, 2012
STM wrote:
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Whats a hostest, Ding Dong?
A hostest is someone who accommodates others.
And they dont sell ding dongs anymore.
so your post is silliness

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#473355 Dec 14, 2012
Nuthutters46er wrote:
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Reported on CNN, that one child is confirmed dead. I guess you didn't bother to turn on the news. I DID say that before. Comprehension problems Rex? Some child advocate you are...
You're the one wetting herself over a shooting at an elementary school.
Enjoying CNN a little too much today aren't you?

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#473356 Dec 14, 2012
Nuthutters46er wrote:
CNN reported one child confirmed dead but the news is saying the shooter.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/201...
Maybe you should settle down and get your stories straight, make Casey proud.

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#473357 Dec 14, 2012
-Web wrote:
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Well the Rex person should be more respectful.
Of a couple of morons such as yourself and the broad of a thousand names?

Please..
go play in your stairwell.

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#473358 Dec 14, 2012
-Web wrote:
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A hostest is someone who accommodates others.
And they dont sell ding dongs anymore.
so your post is silliness
You really CAN'T be this dumb can you?

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#473359 Dec 14, 2012
WAS sanka wrote:
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You prefer mothers that kill their own, correct?
No

STM

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#473360 Dec 14, 2012
-Web wrote:
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A hostest is someone who accommodates others.
And they dont sell ding dongs anymore.
so your post is silliness
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hos...

DING DONG

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#473361 Dec 14, 2012
WAS sanka wrote:
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Of a couple of morons such as yourself and the broad of a thousand names?
Please..
go play in your stairwell.
A broad of a thousand names?
stairwells?

Do you realize how ridiculous your post is? lol

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