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Evidence101 wrote:
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If the computer search was brought to the State Attorney before - or at trial - George would have easily cleared Casey.
George knows what time Casey left the house, so he knows Casey could not have made it.
If George didn't make it .... and Casey couldn't have made it.....who did?
Someone outside of the family, made it.
All George and Cindy wanted were answers to what happened to Caylee and this was the investigator's gift to them?
If this is true, then how do you explain that during the search for foolproof suffocation another search was made for hot shot girls clothing, befriending someone on Casey's Myspace page and texting a friend on another Myspace page? The last two requiring a password that belonged to Kilsey? Your verbal vomit does not add up.

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Diane Ax wrote:
<quoted text> Casey is responsible for leaving her daughter in the care of a physco.
I agree, and she made the biggest mistake of her life.

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If Casey had been convicted she would've gotten 10 to 25 years IMO.
The death penalty never would've happened.
During penalty phase her strange behaviors would've been usd to try and prove mental problems.
The so-called "abuse" from her parents would've also been brought up.
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chuckycheez_68 wrote:
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No disrespect, but this is thinking outside the box. Unlike many here that I've known for a long time here (and many I like) are unable to separate the emotion from the legal part of it.
While you may agree with the verdict or disagree with it, I look at this case as a wake-up call that potentially there are other mom's that may be similarly situated and this case may (if looked at from every angle) prevent the death of another toddler.
Nothing is going to ever fully prevent death of another toddler. Death happens. But you do make a good point.

For example, Lee testified under oath that when Casey was home, out on bond, she gave him a different account of what happened.

Not the scripted account as played out, that quite frankly is stupid as all fuck.

If what Lee described as Casey's version to him is true, similarly situated moms need to get concealed weapons permits and a certified firearms trainer.

No one should get away with forcibly taking someone's child because they don't think she is being a good enough mother.

Moms need to get proactive and shoot the skanks who think playing God gives them the right to snatch their kid.
That would put a quick stop to it.

Elizabeth Johnson is a similarly situated mom who comes to mind.
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Diane Axe wrote:
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What is with all the what if's and all these silly scenarios?
How many times can you rehash this stuff?
You are starting to sound like the Rambling person.

Unfortunatly you havenat a clue about CHUKY at all.

He is one of the most realistic and honest poster's that has ever been on this thread,his wealth of knowledge about the criminal procedures is mind blowing to say the least.
When he used to post three year's ago, every body including ngrace
held him in very high esteem, I still do and am very thankful he is back posting once again.
Please read his post you just may learn something,for Chucky allways telll.s it like it is without the usual BS that day's,rambler and the others do,
I cant think of anybody on this thread that didnt tell Chucky he should go to law school and become a lawyer. Personally I think he would be a great one.

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Dayz your attempt to explain what happened is almost laughable.

No one took Caylee from Casey, Casey didn't want her and didn't want her to live anymore, so she killed her.

Elisabeth Johnson killed her son so his father couldn't have him, she wanted to hurt the man that didn't want her anymore in the worst way possible.

Casey killed Caylee to hurt Cindy in the worst way possible for all her imagined slights. The Anthonys are the definition of extreme dysfunction.

That is the similarity between both cases.
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Nov 27, 2012
 
chuckycheez_68 wrote:
<quoted text>My point is the would the computer evidence changed the outcome? I realize it makes no difference now,(regarding Casey) but I would like to see something positive come from this case which is as I said, is to possibly prevent another mother (and I should add) ANYONE similarly situated from engaging in similar conduct in the future.
Hypothetical here Chucky::

If Casey had been found guilty and sentenced for 1st degree murder, would this latest thing about the searches be a good enough reason to an appeal and get a new trial.Just wondered because the way I understand the law the double jeopardy thing is only good if your aquitted and not if your found guilty, which means they cant try you again on aquittal but can retry you again if your found guilty.
Sorry havent had my second cup of coffe and my 9 pills of medication yet this morning.
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watching in Ohio wrote:
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If this is true, then how do you explain that during the search for foolproof suffocation another search was made for hot shot girls clothing
Shot girls clothing search was in the morning before Casey left the house.

Misspelled Fool-Proof Suffication was at 2:50 in the afternoon, after Casey left the house, when George & Casey weren't there.

In fact, according to Lee's sworn testimony, the misspelled suffication search was made when Caylee was forcibly taken from Casey -- as she was being held down by the babysitter's sibling.

The misspelled suffication search was probably made when Casey was being told that she wasn't getting Caylee back until Caylee's birthday, but only IF she didn't go to the cops or tell anyone.

Casey was allegedly given a script to follow, a dumb one, at that time.

She followed the dumb script but the psycho(s) she trusted, turned out to not be so trust-worthy.

We know this because Caylee is dead.
We just don't know what day the trusted psycho murdered her for not sticking to the script.

Probably right after they got wind Casey was talking to the FBI.

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Casey doubled back to the house after George left for work as she did most every day.

The woman didn't work for years.
She still doesn't.
T-REX

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chuckycheez_68 wrote:
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I respectfully disagree. You would be right if Casey had Judge Strickland. However as Judge Perry was Casey's sentencing judge had there been a conviction, I believe he may of imposed death and challenged a higher court to reverse it and make it stick.
As Judge Perry imposed four years (to be served consecutively) on the four remaining misdemeanor charges, I see no way he stops at "10 to 25 years...." on capital murder. Hell, I could not see him imposing a sentence like that (unless "10 to 25 years..." was the statutory maximum) on a Murder 2 conviction.
Thats a good point Chucky, Judge perry had no problem with giving the death penalty.
From early on in this case it was posted that Casey could get 30 years,just on the child abuse and endangerment parts that were dropped.I wonder if with this new information she could be recharged on those and end up in court.
Any way I look at it though, Casey's bella vida is going to be a lifetime spent in court for one reason or another.
Cindy could also ,she commited perjury on the witness stand and according to FLA law,there is no staue of limitation's on perjury in a capital murder case.

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chuckycheez_68 wrote:
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No disrespect, but this is thinking outside the box. Unlike many here that I've known for a long time here (and many I like) are unable to separate the emotion from the legal part of it.
While you may agree with the verdict or disagree with it, I look at this case as a wake-up call that potentially there are other mom's that may be similarly situated and this case may (if looked at from every angle) prevent the death of another toddler.
I've been trying to think outside the box since this drama hit the airwaves.It has been really hard at times to separate my emotions from the legal part of it, especially when Nancy Grace highly dramatized her own emotions coming out of nowhere for ratings.

But I kept one word in mind "ALIBI"!

Now that the FDLE flaws are surfacing and karma is obviously on the Orange County Sheriff's doorstep...Birdflippers may have to explain what the Deal was all about in this Capital Mickey Mouse murder in Orlando where no one had any concern for Human Values.

I said it before and I'll say it again, I saw Casey with Caylee in Moore Haven ,Florida on June 19th 2008 and saw an hispanic women speaking to Casey before I left the permises.

And that is called an "ALIBI" !
Q: Do you think Casey remember seing me and talking to me If her Life would depend on it? You bet she does.

Since the 5th DCA set the date on January 8th 2013...I know there will be Justice not only for Caylee , but Casey as well.

Casey fired Jose 13aez cause he's a slimebag crook!
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WAS sanka wrote:
Dayz your attempt to explain what happened is almost laughable.
No one took Caylee from Casey, Casey didn't want her and didn't want her to live anymore, so she killed her.
Elisabeth Johnson killed her son so his father couldn't have him, she wanted to hurt the man that didn't want her anymore in the worst way possible.
Casey killed Caylee to hurt Cindy in the worst way possible for all her imagined slights. The Anthonys are the definition of extreme dysfunction.
That is the similarity between both cases.
Elizabeth Johnson's baby was taken from her by a couple at a park in San Antonio Texas,
(Pastor John Hagee territory), after a nutbag cult couple 'The Smiths, in Phoenix Az.,(AZ Lawyer territory), convinced her she was a horrible mother who needed to give her baby up for adoption.

When Liz didn't give her baby up for adoption, her baby was taken from her.

Those are the similarities between Casey and Liz Johnson.
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WAS sanka wrote:
Casey doubled back to the house after George left for work as she did most every day.
The woman didn't work for years.
She still doesn't.
She hasn't worked anywhere in at least 8 year's I dont think,what is she now 26,with no degree in anything except lying and stealing,she has a Doctorate in those for sure. And with the laws the way they are now,the felonie conviction's are enough to prevent her from being hired at most places of employment,plus her name alone and the relationship with the murder trial will be against her for ever.She will not be accepted or trusted by most people ever.
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chuckycheez_68 wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the compliments, but the Bar would not accept me. Being an attorney was a serious thought as a kid, but as I got older, it just did not work out.
That is a shame Chucky, they relly screwed up on that one in my honest opinion, I for one love your post.
You noticed you got a reply from the poster that claims he saw Caylee with a spanish woman and casey also saw him.
This person is as nutty as a fruitcake as far as I am concerned.
I personally made phone calls to check on her ( it is a she ) and was told this was the first they ever heard about it, so best bet is to ignore her.
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Aired Nov 26, 2012
PINSKY: Jose, I think she`s talking about -- I think she`s talking about theories that were a little more far reaching, like George`s sexual abuse of Casey, that kind of thing.

BAEZ: Sure. There are several ways evidence could be put forth. And one is by cross examination and one is by direct testimony. Of course, Casey could have take have a stand and could have testify to this. And, of course, also George when he took the stand and we questioned him about the abuse, he could have denied it and he could have -- or he could have admitted to it.

Now, he did deny it. However, that doesn`t mean that the jury has to believe a witness. That`s the same if Casey took the stand and said, I didn`t do this, and they looked her and said, you know what, you`re lying. I do think you did.

So that`s considered evidence in a case. And that evidence came forth.

Now, did we prove --

PINSKY: Let me -- Jose --

BAEZ: Did we prove these theories beyond a reasonable doubt? No. I agree with that. That`s not the defense`s burden. That`s the prosecution`s burden.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1211/2...

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Anyone listen to Jose Baez on Dr Drew? I thought he sounded a little.....not like himself......

For example the above statement - why would he even mention a stupid example of Casey taking the stand and saying "I didn't it" when he ought to know the defendant's plea of NOT GUILTY is essentially that.
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WAS sanka wrote:
Casey doubled back to the house after George left for work as she did most every day.
No she didn't!!

The State would have gotten their conviction if she went back to the house after George left, and before she went to Tony's.

The State rejected the whole notion that Casey returned home that day or that Caylee died at the Anthony house.

The US Secret Serv. analyzed her cell phone activity. They know she didn't go back home.

Casey also wouldn't misspell suffocation or chloroform.

Jose Baez gave Casey an essay assignment right after he became her lawyer.
Her report was so well written and so well presented that it was superior to many seasoned veteran lawyers.
She could have been anything she wanted to be.

As an advanced student in high school, Casey's defense also had her advanced studies english teacher on their witness list.

I do believe they were well prepared to argue that Casey did NOT make the misspelled search.

Also, Mozilla Firefox remembers passwords. It will automatically log in to familiar accounts.

ANYONE on the computer after George & Casey left could have logged into Casey's AOL/AIM, Myspace, Facebook, etc.....just by going to those sites.
Firefox automatic password application would do the rest.

She didn't kill her kid.
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Nov 27, 2012
 
chuckycheez_68 wrote:
<quoted text>I saw it but did not look closely as I assumed it was the argument advanced where Casey was seen with this hispanic woman. Wasnt that connected with 'Zanny The Nanny' and now the Zenaida Lawsuit?
Spin, spin....CrAsH!!!

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chuckycheez_68 wrote:
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If the Government knew what they had, they would of disclosed it, and probably would of used large billboards, newspaper and magazine ad spots to be sure Casey was aware of the evidence.
Conversely, as it panned out the way it did,(with the government claiming ignorance) I believe Casey could argue Brady v. Maryland (Casey being adjudged guilty by the jury and the government claiming ignorance) all day long with relief for Casey is for the asking.
What higher court is going to believe there are apparently computer forensic investigators that are retarded.
Lets say the court bought the government's argument of ignorance, imagine what doors that would open regarding withholding evidence from the defense in future cases.
I agree, that would be opening the proverbial can of worm's for sure
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chuckycheez_68 wrote:
<quoted text>I saw it but did not look closely as I assumed it was the argument advanced where Casey was seen with this hispanic woman. Wasnt that connected with 'Zanny The Nanny' and now the Zenaida Lawsuit?
No according to this poster it was proof that Casey and Caylee were together and she is 100% innocent of killing her daughter

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Evidence101 wrote:
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No she didn't!!
The State would have gotten their conviction if she went back to the house after George left, and before she went to Tony's.
The State rejected the whole notion that Casey returned home that day or that Caylee died at the Anthony house.
The US Secret Serv. analyzed her cell phone activity. They know she didn't go back home.
Casey also wouldn't misspell suffocation or chloroform.
Jose Baez gave Casey an essay assignment right after he became her lawyer.
Her report was so well written and so well presented that it was superior to many seasoned veteran lawyers.
She could have been anything she wanted to be.
As an advanced student in high school, Casey's defense also had her advanced studies english teacher on their witness list.
I do believe they were well prepared to argue that Casey did NOT make the misspelled search.
Also, Mozilla Firefox remembers passwords. It will automatically log in to familiar accounts.
ANYONE on the computer after George & Casey left could have logged into Casey's AOL/AIM, Myspace, Facebook, etc.....just by going to those sites.
Firefox automatic password application would do the rest.
She didn't kill her kid.
Whoa Nellie! Casey Anthony sure has you fooled.

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