The Seminole Tribe is suddenly wealthy, but little oversight me...

Full story: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

In only three decades, the Seminole Tribe of Florida rose from abject poverty to running one of the most lucrative Indian gambling enterprises in the country, capped in March with the $965 million purchase of ...

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Dan Wisher

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#1
Nov 24, 2007
 
Informative but does not touch the heart of corruption in the Tribe today especially since James E. Billie left the Tribe. They are still living on the legacy of James E. Billie.
nnn

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#2
Nov 24, 2007
 
All of that wasted money that could be spent on education for the future of the tribe, which has a great percentage of members dying of glutony, and drug and alcohol addiction. They could also give some of that money to the underpaid staff at their casinos.
Bob

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#4
Nov 24, 2007
 
It's nice to see the legalized and illegitimate handouts the U.S. Government has given to the tribes. The non-competitive gambling abilities they have had for decades now... it's no surprise.

Here, you can have casino's, but no one else can... geee golly... now they are buying billion dollar american landmark corporations, and will only continue to grow and outcompete the hard working american because of insanely unfair advantages...

I honestly call upon American's to stop giving the tribes your money, don't visit their hard rock hotel, ignore the indian casino's, and boycott everything they do. We are hurting ourselves and making these criminals rich.
Bill

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#6
Nov 25, 2007
 
The state could have had gambling in 1977 but those "moral majority beautes" and the race tracks bonded together to stop it. Great bed bedfellows right.

Where is all the crime from the casinos the Indians are running?

Hell the crime hit here in the 1980s-1990s despite no gambling.

Now we are in dire-straights involving tax money and insurance and the Indians are cleaning up and the rest of the state is in a crisis.
Otis

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#7
Nov 25, 2007
 
The education system and property taxes would be like Nevada, where I lved for a number of year - next to nothing in cost if in the 1970s people would have voted for legalized gambling.

Good paying jobs to support the cities and tax base.

Crime?- what in the #$^*%^ happened without it in the 80s and 90s!!!
Terry

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#8
Nov 25, 2007
 
We as a state with casino games could have been out of the rouble of high property taxes and lack of funding for our schools and roads if people would have voted peoperly in the 1970s for casino gambling and no listed to those religious zelots that said crime woul balloon.

What did crime do without it?
LarryO IN Coconut Creek

Pompano Beach, FL

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#9
Nov 25, 2007
 
What did the hourly employees receive? A PAYCHECK! Who ever thought there would be "hourly employees" of an Indian Tribe? Its an incredible story, and there are growing pains within the tribe, but can't you give some praise for what they have accomplished? It IS good for the state: winners and employees spend their money in the Florida economy. With class 3 there should be MORE winners.
GeeGary

Hollywood, FL

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Nov 25, 2007
 
Don't hate the Player,hate the Game and Florida lost this one when they gave away the Bank!!

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale, FL

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#12
Nov 25, 2007
 
This is like praising a drug dealer for making so much money from their "enterprise" and "business knowledge".

Of course they are making a killing, they are allowed to do something that nobody else is to make the money. If you would recognize me as a soveregin nation and let me have the right to legally sell a "sin" that nobody else can, he**, I will clean up too! I was thinking protitution would be a nice "vice" to give me in deference to wrongs done to me 300 years ago or so.

I am happy for the successes, and I could care less about the casinos swindling the old people out of their money (hopefully leaving them with less gas money to get out there an terrorize me during the day). However, come on, appluading this as "great business" is just silly. If there was some real competition here, and the indians were prospering right next to Trump/MGM/Maloof, etc, then I would praise their business sense.

Right now, they have a monopoly on the market. Of course they are making a ton of money!

And, can somebody please explain how we steal their land, and in return, we give them casinos? If I didn't know it to be true, I would think it a joke! How on earth does that make what we did right, and what the heck do casinos have to do with land reperations??
rick

Miami, FL

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#13
Nov 25, 2007
 
the big rich chiefs are maybe rich, but the poor little seminole living poor, seen it with other tribes out west.
Journalism Teacher

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#15
Nov 25, 2007
 
This tripe is going to be a multi story extravaganza? I've seen better written articles in the National Enquirer. How do you get that many quotes from people who have refused interviews? It's no wonder circulation is down at this paper, with sensationalist trash like this I'm surprized they haven't been arested for murdering trees.
cole

Lake Worth, FL

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#16
Nov 25, 2007
 
Bob wrote:
It's nice to see the legalized and illegitimate handouts the U.S. Government has given to the tribes. The non-competitive gambling abilities they have had for decades now... it's no surprise.
Here, you can have casino's, but no one else can... geee golly... now they are buying billion dollar american landmark corporations, and will only continue to grow and outcompete the hard working american because of insanely unfair advantages...
I honestly call upon American's to stop giving the tribes your money, don't visit their hard rock hotel, ignore the indian casino's, and boycott everything they do. We are hurting ourselves and making these criminals rich.
well maybe the Us government should not have taken their land when they invaded it and the govt should have honored their treatys and deals instead of putting a bounty on all Indians, check your history the US govt screwed every which way the American Indian...where do you think we learned it from
same boat

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Nov 25, 2007
 
jkdgator72 wrote:
it's nice to read about how well the tribe is doing yet can't afford to give thier salaried employee's xmas bonuses this year. Hourly employee's got 100 bucks and who knows what corporate employees got. Salaried got a pat on the back and foot up the ***
I'm with you. Nice to see that the people who keep things running around here got something. NOT. Also nice to see that since no bonuses were handed out that they could build nice, expensive bathrooms for the executives and nice offices. Who needs marble bathroom partitions anyways. Build up the resume's!
Dennis

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#18
Nov 25, 2007
 
As long as some of the revenues that the Indians and the state make go towards gambling addiction and recovery then I don't see a problem. As it stands a paltry sum goes towards gambling education through advertising.
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#20
Nov 25, 2007
 
Mr. Bowers is one of the few tribal members who is willing to speak out. I applaud him for doing so. However, if the Feds don't do anything now, and Ms. Green and Mr. Bitner are claiming they had no idea that such things were going on, that, in and of itself is scary.
CherokeeIrish

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#23
Nov 25, 2007
 
Yep, doesn't take a rocket Scientist to see that unregulated gambling is an open pocket book to wealth. Being a regular patron of Las Vegas, I went to their cassino to blow a little money and have fun. Well, I blew it alright, in a very short time, but something was missing.....where were all the winners yelling with happiness? I looked around and tried to see what was so drastically different. I soon realized, no one was having fun, there were no winners. Oh sure every once in hour or so, there would be a comotion where a winner won a grand, but 99% of the other players just sat around putting there money in and occassionally getting a few bucks back.

I will fly to Vegas where I can play Black Jack and Slots for days at a time, drink all the drinks I want, stumble back to my room only to wake up and think, "what a great time I had, now give me that breathtaking BUFFET for $5.95.

It was obvious that a true gambler would not fall for such a fixed cassino. It is true the house always has the edge, that is the business but, if the house doesn't even seem to give you a chance of winning. What fun is it?

I went back a total of four times to make sure I wasn't on at off time, same story, a few happy faces to every 95 sad ones. Vegas is more 85 Happy and 15 sad, that is the difference. Slot machines are not random and have man made programs that can do what ever the cassino says.
No one is there for the consumer, so consumer BEWARE!

I will save for Vegas and meanwhile contribute to Florida's education Lottory and it works out fine for me.....
Money Guns and Lawyers

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#25
Nov 25, 2007
 
Over two decades ago the Agua Calente band of Native Americans (in the Palm Springs, CA area) launched the Indian Gambling Industry. Two of their tribe who disagreed with move were found with gunshots in their head. It is worht a look to make sure there are no "silent partners" in this deal.

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#26
Nov 25, 2007
 
It's pay-back time, white eyes. It took many, many years but the Native Americans are finally getting their revenge on what we did to them. White men killed them, tortured them, raped their women,stole their children, burned their villages, stole their land and had the nerve to pay them to return to live on it.
I don't gamble but I say, deal with it people. It's here to stay.
Fair

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#27
Nov 25, 2007
 
Let's pay back some of the tax benefits.
MY Opinion

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#28
Nov 25, 2007
 
Not that different from the millions spent by Palm Beach County Commissioners from their "discretionary" funds, just on a grander scale.

People who are given a handout never develop a work ethic - just look at our welfare system and the resulting sense of entitlement in the ghettos - which by the way is directly responsible for rampant crime eg: you have it, I want it, I take it.

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