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There are 178 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from May 14, 2009, titled Free Viagra: Pfizer offers free Viagra, Lipitor and other drugs.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Pfizer Inc. says it will provide 70 of its most widely prescribed prescription drugs - including Lipitor and Viagra - for free to people who have lost their jobs and health insurance.

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PkD

Orlando, FL

#180 May 18, 2009
ut oh wrote:
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One other thing, if you're concerned about cost and making a profit, why spend the dough on very expensive TV commercials. How much did that computer-generated commercial for Vesicare cost, and who pays for that?
Same reason every other company spends money on commercials.

Reality is, when the sales volume goes up, you can spread the R&D costs across more scripts giving you the ability to lower the price per script.
PkD

Orlando, FL

#181 May 18, 2009
ut oh wrote:
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One other thing, if you're concerned about cost and making a profit, why spend the dough on very expensive TV commercials. How much did that computer-generated commercial for Vesicare cost, and who pays for that?
And compared to $350 million in R&D cost, the marketing cost is small.
ut oh

Windermere, FL

#182 May 19, 2009
Historian wrote:
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My comments were specifically to the subject of drug companies making a profit and the scorn they are subjected to because of it, not to the health care industry or comparison shopping for medical supplies in general. However I will respond with a couple of comments that are probably more Libertarian than Republican.
I sense from your post that you presume health care to be a "right" which is far different from a necessity. I do agree that health care is a necessity - I do not agree that I should have to pay for yours or that you should have to pay for mine. Like food, housing, clothing and other necessities, I believe that taking money from me to buy something for you is simple theft.
What's your stand on your property tax paying for:

1. Someone else's child's ability to go to school.
2. Another neighbor's use of your town's library.
3. Your neighbor's trash collection (the same number of days you have) even though she makes $20,000 less per year than you do and her house is worth less than your.
4. Your neighbor's fire department service after a grease fire started in her kitchen.

It's one thing to make a profit. It's another to make a gross profit. Seldane in Canada (made by a US company) at 35 cents a pill vs $1.05 a pill in the US (made by the same company) is gross profit.

Finally, what are you doing now to opt out of Medicare/Social Security?
jac holtzman

Chicago, IL

#183 May 19, 2009
Between Flomax and Viagra they've got us coming AND going.

JH
ut oh

Windermere, FL

#184 May 19, 2009
Historian wrote:
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Why does Miller Lite spend money on advertising, or Coca Cola, or Lays Chips? And who pays for that? Simply put, manufacturers advertise to promote and SELL the products they produce and, yes, the people who buy the products pay for the advertising that convinced them to but the product! What a wicked, wicked world we live in.
Drug companies are not charitable institutions. They exist to make a profit for their shareholders. That in the process of making money they also happen to save lives doesn't alter the fact that they are first and foremost a business.
Drug companies already have people to promote and sell their products. They are called drug representatives and doctors. No TV advertising is necessary.(and how much did that Vesicare commercial cost to produce--let me know)

In fact, there is plenty of room to advertise Allegra in professional publications, those read by physicians. No commercial should be telling me to "ask my doctor about..." If my doctor feels that drug X is appropriate, I'll leave it up to him/her to let me know.
ut oh

Windermere, FL

#185 May 19, 2009
PkD wrote:
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The vast majority of new drug development does come from the for-profit industry.(And yes, university labs are very much for-profit -- they make $$ off the licensing.) I spent a long time in the pharmaceutical industry, and off the top of my head, I cannot think of a major drug that was developed under a nationalized system.(I admit there probably are some that I'm not thinking of right now, but point being they are a small minority.)
Astra AB (Sweden) and Zeneca (Great Britain) formed AstraZeneca, whose headquarters are in England (socialized medicine there) and whose R&D takes place in, Oh My God! Sweden (socialized medicine there, too). They created Xylocaine, a widely-use anesthetic. The first half of Schering-Plough is German, yet another country with socialized medicine. Need any more examples?
Short Bus

Buffalo Grove, IL

#186 May 19, 2009
WakaWaka wrote:
Everyone's a doctor on this board.
Viagra is still used to treat HYPERTENSION.
I understand the frustration, since it is used to treat ED as well, but don't forget there are people out there who actually use it for what it was originally designed to do.
7193
Maybe I'm missing something, but none of those "Viva Viagra" commercials seem to be about treating hypertension.

Since: Jan 09

Rockford

#187 May 19, 2009
Wiley Coyote wrote:
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Well, that's wonderful. Thanks for your thoughtful reply...however, there does not seem to be a reason to give away a medication for erectile dysfunction. It is not a life-threatening condition.
I have been thinking about this. While I do not disagree with you allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment.

A few years ago, I lost a dear friend to lung cancer on a Monday. On Tuesday my boyfriend broke up with me. Wednesday my hamster died. By Friday I had lost my job. I could not stop crying. My doctor put me on medication for the depression.

*TMI alert*

The most common anti-depressant Prozac causes sexual side effects for most of those who use it. I demanded to be put on something else because with everything else going on the ONLY pleasure I felt at that time was through masturbation. I told him, "You cannot take away the only thing I've got left!" and he put me on Welbutrin instead.

My mother is currently on Prozac. My sister died a few years back and Mom has not quite "bounced back". She rarely has orgasms. She still has an active sex life with my step father but she is not getting the same enjoyment out of it. Sure the intimacy is there but she is missing something.

Sexual desire is incredibly primal and is one of the strongest urges there is.

Let's try to be a little generous here and imagine a scenario where a guy has lost his job and feels less like the man he is because he has ceased to provide for his family. In addition he can no longer get his meds that will make him feel like a man in the bedroom. For the sake of his marriage and perhaps his self worth a little blue pill could be very helpful.

I am just saying. Maybe we could all try to put ourselves in other's shoes for just a little while...
yea right

Jupiter, FL

#190 May 19, 2009
Free Vigara ??? I certainly hope they are passing out free birth control pills also.
These are after all, essential life sustaining medications.

Since: Jan 09

Rockford

#191 May 19, 2009
yea right wrote:
Free Vigara ??? I certainly hope they are passing out free birth control pills also.
These are after all, essential life sustaining medications.
Lord Almighty! Do people even read the article anymore?!?! Yes they are giving out birth control, diabetes, high blood pressure, depression, and cholesterol medications too. There are 70 drugs on the list; Viagra is but one of them.

Since: Nov 08

The Mountains of WNC

#192 May 19, 2009
Kim 0806 wrote:
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I have been thinking about this. While I do not disagree with you allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment.
A few years ago, I lost a dear friend to lung cancer on a Monday. On Tuesday my boyfriend broke up with me. Wednesday my hamster died. By Friday I had lost my job. I could not stop crying. My doctor put me on medication for the depression.
*TMI alert*
The most common anti-depressant Prozac causes sexual side effects for most of those who use it. I demanded to be put on something else because with everything else going on the ONLY pleasure I felt at that time was through masturbation. I told him, "You cannot take away the only thing I've got left!" and he put me on Welbutrin instead.
My mother is currently on Prozac. My sister died a few years back and Mom has not quite "bounced back". She rarely has orgasms. She still has an active sex life with my step father but she is not getting the same enjoyment out of it. Sure the intimacy is there but she is missing something.
Sexual desire is incredibly primal and is one of the strongest urges there is.
Let's try to be a little generous here and imagine a scenario where a guy has lost his job and feels less like the man he is because he has ceased to provide for his family. In addition he can no longer get his meds that will make him feel like a man in the bedroom. For the sake of his marriage and perhaps his self worth a little blue pill could be very helpful.
I am just saying. Maybe we could all try to put ourselves in other's shoes for just a little while...
We could have all gone a very long time without hearing all the details of yours and your mother's sordid sex lives. I repeat, erectile dysfunction is NOT a life-threatening condition.
herkybird

Omaha, NE

#193 May 19, 2009
Mr_X wrote:
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Well said. So many people don't understand this. Any day now you could be unemployed and I bet you won't be bitching then.
I don't get all this criticism. Pfizer may be playing this off as being more altruistic than it actually is, but would you rather have them mark up the prices on these drugs so even more people can't afford them? Everybody on this board is jumping all over Pfizer for releasing Viagra, but do all of you who get this medication on insurance necessarily go out an have hundreds of babies every day because the drug is very cheap (or essentially free)? I think the unemployed have more important things to worry about than impotence. Viagra just happens to be a popular drug made by Pfizer, and the other drugs on this list are necessary for so many people.
If you have a job and are getting medication, shut up. Everybody is going through rough times economically right now and listening to you people bitch about having to pay more down the road makes you sound pretty greedy. We will all have to pay for EVERYTHING our government is doing in this recession, so this drug business hardly seems like the worst of it.
Mr X I think more people understand this than want to admit. They are the same dip shits that won't go to their doctor because they think if they tell him their dick does not work they will be considered outcasts. ED is a medical problem that afflicts millions of men. I maintain mine was due to the crap I endured in Viet Nam. Here is where we separate the bullshit from the shinola. All these "macho" types (why are they posting here anyway if their equipment works?) beat their chest and support the war against terrorism. But when the guys come home they too will have ED problems be it physical or psychological. Either way...they are your hero's and I will give you a 1,000% guarantee that they will have problems. So are they now outcasts too since their "equipment" does not work? I am not unemployed nor will my insurance pay for ED drugs. But I have a wife I love very much and I feel I am being held hostage for the simple act of lovemaking. Is that too much to ask? It's only going to get worse the more troops that come home. Are you going to say I supported you over there...but now you need to suck it up just like I do because I am too chickenshit to go see a doc. Give me a break!!
PkD

Orlando, FL

#195 May 21, 2009
ut oh wrote:
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Astra AB (Sweden) and Zeneca (Great Britain) formed AstraZeneca, whose headquarters are in England (socialized medicine there) and whose R&D takes place in, Oh My God! Sweden (socialized medicine there, too). They created Xylocaine, a widely-use anesthetic. The first half of Schering-Plough is German, yet another country with socialized medicine. Need any more examples?
I never said all advancements come from the US. I said the advancements primarily come from FOR PROFIT companies. AstraZeneca (stock ticker AZN) had $6.1 million net income last year. Schering-Plough is also publicly traded. These companies answer to thier stock holders. Again, average investment to bring a new drug to market is $350 MILLION, and it takes 12+ years before they see the first dollar. Do you really think they will make this very high-risk investment if they cannot make a big profit? It doesnot matter what country the company is based in; they are doing the R&D to make money.
ut oh

Windermere, FL

#196 May 23, 2009
PkD wrote:
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I never said all advancements come from the US. I said the advancements primarily come from FOR PROFIT companies. AstraZeneca (stock ticker AZN) had $6.1 million net income last year. Schering-Plough is also publicly traded. These companies answer to thier stock holders. Again, average investment to bring a new drug to market is $350 MILLION, and it takes 12+ years before they see the first dollar. Do you really think they will make this very high-risk investment if they cannot make a big profit? It doesnot matter what country the company is based in; they are doing the R&D to make money.
The company that created Claritin lost its patent. What's a greedy drug company to do? I know, change 1 lousy molecule and voila--you have Clarinex. Mo money, mo money, mo money. Is that R&D?

What? Losing the patent on Prilosec? Ut oh...what's a greedy drug company to do? I know, split the molecule and call it Nexium. Mo money, mo money, mo money.

How much R&D goes on when all you have to do is split a molecule on an already-established drug (but whose money-making patent is about to expire)? Answer: None.

Anyone who says that R&D doesn't exist in countries that have national health care--you know, all other industrialized countries other than the US, they're giving you a load of c*r*a*p.
Kathy

Edinburgh, UK

#198 Jun 9, 2009
I would never put money in the hands of the big Pharmaceuticals

I use an alternative independent pharma www.KamagraUK.net for my fella's Viagra

Kathy
Matthew

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