Why can't Crist control Kottkamp?

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Shouldn't Florida Gov. Charlie Crist have to explain why his lieutenant governor has so little to do? Wasn't it bad enough that Lt.
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Procurator

Kissimmee, FL

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Feb 22, 2009
 
Osceola now has two land uses: URBAN AND RURAL. In the URBAN are you can build up to 25 units per acre with a 5.5 units min.RURAL one house to 5 acres. There is a "City Land Use" in the RURAL area of the Destiny project. When refined zoning takes place there will not be a need for a land use change submittal to the state for 20 years.
ed mcnamara

Orlando, FL

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Feb 22, 2009
 
please give us a break,we have empty homes all over the state.we've got water problems, not enough and some times to much.we are short on funds for our schools and other basic service'please enough!!
michaelrcaputo

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Feb 22, 2009
 
The Miami Corp was founded in 1917 to manage the Deering family's securities and land holdings. They named it after the city where the family kept winter homes. In the 1920s, the family bought thousands of acres in Volusia and Brevard counties and harvested timber. Generations of Deerings have benefited from the wise investment strategies of their forebears. Great-great granddaddy was brilliant, it seems.

The families own the land outright. They don't just have a right to develop their property within the law - they have a legacy.

Family members direct at least five civic, art and educational charitable foundations, worth more than $75 million. John Deering practically gave his Biscayne Bay Vizcaya estate to the city of Miami in the 1950s. Family member Richard Danielson's 7,000-acre California ranch is now a state park. Again, he practically gave it away.

Hometown Democracy will potentially violate the property rights of every single Floridian - even those who live in tony Orlando suburbs.

Want to add a new garage with an apartment for your aging father? You won't until the entire city or county votes on it. So you might as well start building it now.

Want to build a gas station where one is desperately needed? Start construction now, or queue up for a vote.

In fact, every single land use change, big and small, will require a vote. Floridians may end up voting hundreds of times every year - all in a gambit to dilute and disrespect Floridians property rights.

This one case is about respecting the property rights of a centuries-old family who did much for the people of Florida. Sneering at their plans to utilize a family investment smacks of far less than journalism.

Of course the Miami Corp. is honest about this. They fear an investment their family has held for 100 years is about to be handcuffed by a law backed by a tiny minority of rich lawyers who wouldn't stand a chance except for the constant barrage of PR on their behalf by the pointy-headed media elite.

So build that garage for your old man before it is too late. Look ahead, and get that gas station approved and built before they take your rights away. And Miami Corp: that's your land and your legacy, so do what you will, under the law. Floridians have appreciated your strong support for our great state.

Not all of us forget your family.

Not all of us want to take away your property rights.

And believe me, not all of us will vote for the abomination they call Hometown Democracy.
DizzyDee

Orlando, FL

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Feb 22, 2009
 
I love it..the state has cut education down to the bare bones, but pays Kottincamp $127K per year to DO NOTHING, but cost the MORE money so he can fly back & forth from Tallhassee. His schedule is EMPTY for 60 days a year, but he has to have a chief of staff ( at the cost of $120K/yr ). Cut the fat....constitutionally, we are stuck with Kottexkamp. Cut the fat, LITERALLY. Get rid of his staff that costs taxpayers over a million a year.( that's about 20 teachers, not including the other waste in his budge )
Kottenkamp can manage his own schedule and if he needs help, he can hire someone out of his own salary.
DSutter

Lady Lake, FL

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Feb 22, 2009
 
michaelrcaputo wrote:
The Miami Corp was founded in 1917 to manage the Deering family's securities and land holdings. They named it after the city where the family kept winter homes. In the 1920s, the family bought thousands of acres in Volusia and Brevard counties and harvested timber. Generations of Deerings have benefited from the wise investment strategies of their forebears. Great-great granddaddy was brilliant, it seems.
The families own the land outright. They don't just have a right to develop their property within the law - they have a legacy.
Family members direct at least five civic, art and educational charitable foundations, worth more than $75 million. John Deering practically gave his Biscayne Bay Vizcaya estate to the city of Miami in the 1950s. Family member Richard Danielson's 7,000-acre California ranch is now a state park. Again, he practically gave it away.
Hometown Democracy will potentially violate the property rights of every single Floridian - even those who live in tony Orlando suburbs.
Want to add a new garage with an apartment for your aging father? You won't until the entire city or county votes on it. So you might as well start building it now.
Want to build a gas station where one is desperately needed? Start construction now, or queue up for a vote.
In fact, every single land use change, big and small, will require a vote. Floridians may end up voting hundreds of times every year - all in a gambit to dilute and disrespect Floridians property rights.
This one case is about respecting the property rights of a centuries-old family who did much for the people of Florida. Sneering at their plans to utilize a family investment smacks of far less than journalism.
Of course the Miami Corp. is honest about this. They fear an investment their family has held for 100 years is about to be handcuffed by a law backed by a tiny minority of rich lawyers who wouldn't stand a chance except for the constant barrage of PR on their behalf by the pointy-headed media elite.
So build that garage for your old man before it is too late. Look ahead, and get that gas station approved and built before they take your rights away. And Miami Corp: that's your land and your legacy, so do what you will, under the law. Floridians have appreciated your strong support for our great state.
Not all of us forget your family.
Not all of us want to take away your property rights.
And believe me, not all of us will vote for the abomination they call Hometown Democracy.
Dear Michael,
I'm sorry that you have been misinformed about the Hometown Democracey Amendment. Our opponents have a 'hired gun' that proports these issues which are untrue.
The amendment does not take away owners property rights to develop their land...as long as it is within the 'Comprehensive Plan' of the Community. If it is to be developed 'outside' the Plan; only, then, must it be voted on by the people.
It does not affect zoning or the 'garage' you might want to build on your property, which must meet the normal requirements of building codes that are in effect today.
The Hometown Democracey Amendment is only meant to 'keep' Comprehensive Plans guiding Growth....NOT with "Growth guiding the plan". Too many changes to our Comprehensive Plans by City and County officials are to the benefit and pockets of Developers without consideration of the resources available and the impact on the residents of our communities.
Procurator

Kissimmee, FL

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Feb 22, 2009
 
DSutter wrote:
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Dear Michael,
I'm sorry that you have been misinformed about the Hometown Democracey Amendment. Our opponents have a 'hired gun' that proports these issues which are untrue.
The amendment does not take away owners property rights to develop their land...as long as it is within the 'Comprehensive Plan' of the Community. If it is to be developed 'outside' the Plan; only, then, must it be voted on by the people.
It does not affect zoning or the 'garage' you might want to build on your property, which must meet the normal requirements of building codes that are in effect today.
The Hometown Democracey Amendment is only meant to 'keep' Comprehensive Plans guiding Growth....NOT with "Growth guiding the plan". Too many changes to our Comprehensive Plans by City and County officials are to the benefit and pockets of Developers without consideration of the resources available and the impact on the residents of our communities.
You left out that every comp plan change will go to the ballot. Most comp plan changes in Osceola county are not done by large developers as most are from 1/2 acre to 5 acres.To get the "Whale" the net by Hometown Democracy would catch the "fish" that will have to wait up to 2 years to get on a ballot.
dont trust Caputo

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#7
Feb 22, 2009
 
Michael R. Craputo is a hired gun by developers. He's paid to trash Hometown Democracy. That's his job. So he's working even on Sunday. He's from Buffalo New York and knows nothing and cares nothing about Florida. He's writing lines somebody wrote for him and he says the same bs everytime.
dont trust Caputo

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Feb 22, 2009
 
By the way, Hometown Democracy has nothing to do with adding rooms onto your house. It only concerns comprehensive plan changes. Not that Caputo knows what that is. His rant is completely innacuate, like most of the garbarge the developers spew. Go to www.floridahometowndemocracy.com and learn the truth for yourself.
DSutter

Lady Lake, FL

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Feb 22, 2009
 
Procurator wrote:
<quoted text>You left out that every comp plan change will go to the ballot. Most comp plan changes in Osceola county are not done by large developers as most are from 1/2 acre to 5 acres.To get the "Whale" the net by Hometown Democracy would catch the "fish" that will have to wait up to 2 years to get on a ballot.
Sorry, but why would there be a Comprehensive Plan for each Community, if we were not suppose to 'stick to it'?? duh! If they want a change, then wait for the next Comprehensive Plan Revision, or, better yet, keep within the current Plan.....there was a reason for 'The Plan'.
But, we all know who is paying you to do your job here, right?
LAlzado

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#10
Feb 22, 2009
 
If ignorance is bliss---you must be a very happy person Jane. You obviously have no clue what this guy does. Do you really think that everything he does is on his public calendar? If so, you really are stupid as you appear to be.
Procurator

Kissimmee, FL

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Feb 22, 2009
 
DSutter wrote:
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Sorry, but why would there be a Comprehensive Plan for each Community, if we were not suppose to 'stick to it'?? duh! If they want a change, then wait for the next Comprehensive Plan Revision, or, better yet, keep within the current Plan.....there was a reason for 'The Plan'.
But, we all know who is paying you to do your job here, right?
This will happen with the new Comp Plan.Going to drive the CAVE people like you crazy..CAVE Citizens Against
Virtually Everything.
michaelrcaputo

Miami, FL

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Feb 22, 2009
 
Allow me a moment to correct the lies from the tiny but loud Hometown crowd.

Hometown Democracy will most certainly affect your right to build another dwelling on your land - such as a building that serves as both a lodging AND a garage. If there is only one dwelling allowed on your five acre lot, well - you'd have to get a comp plan change. There's no other way to get it done.

But what if a nasty neighbor who is, say, a rich lawyer opposes your decision to build a dwelling for your elderly father on your land? All they have to do is spend a few thousand dollars on radio ads or a mailing into your neighborhood, and your father will end up in a nursing home.

So, you are lying. And how about that gas station example? Just what I thought - silence.

Don't let any of these agents for Hometown Democracy tell you otherwise. The organization has no grassroots, and had to PAY for signatures to gather enough to make the ballot. They likely pay for Blog spam, too.

I can tell you this: I am as much a part of Florida as any one of you. I live here full time and have for years. I volunteer in my community, lead charitable organizations and walk neighborhoods during elections. I tithe at my church and work regularly to clean up the beaches where my daughter and I play.

It is time to update your script. While I once led the opposition to this harebrained idea, I have not been on the payroll for over a year. Today, nobody pays me to speak out against Hometown Democracy - the worst idea to come out of the wealthy Palm Beach "elite" since Botox.

I speak out against it because I am a Floridian who does not want to see my home state ruled by a vocal but wacky minority.

I stand by my views and invite anyone who finds insulting a Floridian's view to find the courage to do it in person. Flaming on the Internet is for children.

Right. That's what I thought. Too much effort. They don't pay you to leave your house, do they?
Sandy

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Feb 23, 2009
 
Jane you are right on. I'm sure the name of the new city will be Storchville, or else Ft. Lauderdale-in-the-Woods.
SUPPORT FLORIDA HOMETOWN DEMOCRACY AND GIVE YOURSELF A VOTE !!
Reginald Rooster

Winter Springs, FL

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Feb 23, 2009
 
If Crist and Kottkamp were both Democrats, this would be a "non-issue". I think you guys in the news media have plenty of opportunities for real reporting on the current crisis and Democrat political cronies in the Obama Administration now than to harp on Tallahassee's problems.

We;re all expecting now for Obama,[Our version of Hugo Chavez] to appoint Blagojevich as his new Commerce Secretary.
michaelrcaputo

Miami, FL

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Feb 23, 2009
 
SUPPORT HOMETOWN DEMOCRACY - AND GIVE YOURSELF 200+ VOTES EVERY SINGLE YEAR!

A small group of rich lawyers from Palm Beach failed to get this on the ballot three times, and now their buzzwords and lofty claims have grown tired. Floridians see through your ruse and will defeat you in 2010.

Hometown Democracy: not far left, not far right - just farout!
zudako

Sarasota, FL

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Feb 23, 2009
 
waffles!
Grandma Fudd

Winter Springs, FL

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Mar 1, 2009
 
"Why can't Crist control Kottkamp"? Maybe the same reason Obama won't be able to control Biden.
Procurator

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Mar 1, 2009
 
Sandy wrote:
Jane you are right on. I'm sure the name of the new city will be Storchville, or else Ft. Lauderdale-in-the-Woods.
SUPPORT FLORIDA HOMETOWN DEMOCRACY AND GIVE YOURSELF A VOTE !!
If Hometown's change to the Constitution 49 items would have been on the ballot many covering less than 1/10th of an acre in
Osceola county.
DSutter

Lady Lake, FL

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Mar 6, 2009
 
michaelrcaputo wrote:
SUPPORT HOMETOWN DEMOCRACY - AND GIVE YOURSELF 200+ VOTES EVERY SINGLE YEAR!
A small group of rich lawyers from Palm Beach failed to get this on the ballot three times, and now their buzzwords and lofty claims have grown tired. Floridians see through your ruse and will defeat you in 2010.
Hometown Democracy: not far left, not far right - just farout!
"A small group of rich lawyers"...wow, you ARE really mis-informed by the hired-gun of the Chamber of Commerce. How about the 'Wealthy' Developer, Real Estate and Political backers for the so-called Florida for Smarter (?) Growth?...NOW they are what I call a "special interest group" of the 'wrong kind'.

Since: Aug 08

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#20
Mar 23, 2009
 
Kottkamp and ALL the Bush Family, should be jailed for ALL the CRAP, and MONEY they have cost FLORIDA taxpayers! THIS is MORE typical REPUBLICAN hypocrisy, LIES, spend-spend-spend, and DESTROY-DESTROY-DESTROY! I pray that in 2010, America has a DEMOCTRATIC-DOMINATED CONGRESS. This way, we can move our damn country forward - NOT backwards like the "Party of NO" - and we Americans can get what GOD wants for us all: freedom, prosperity and peace!

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