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Florida DCF to screen employees' backgrounds

There are 23 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Feb 5, 2008, titled Florida DCF to screen employees' backgrounds. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Shocked by the arrest of its top spokesman on child-pornography charges, the Florida Department of Children and Families will implement new safeguards to protect its young clients, DCF Secretary Bob Butterworth ...

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Jay

Orlando, FL

#1 Feb 5, 2008
Giving everyone a background check and fingerprinting them, now let's see, Isn't that like locking the barn door after the horse is gone?
My Pet Goat

Whitwell, TN

#2 Feb 5, 2008
Since this is a children's agency, SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE BACKGROUND CHECKS PRIOR TO EMPLOYING EVERYONE?!

In the words of Dr. Evil: "Why must I be surrounded by frickin' idiots?"
safety guy

Northbrook, IL

#3 Feb 5, 2008
this agency is a mess they cant seem to do anything right! they take children from loving parents based on just alligations and put them in fosterhomes where they actually get abused. they loose kids ! but people say they do good most of the time. thats crap! never should a child be harmed by a state agency that is intended to protect!!! the workers act like it is a game ! I pulled 10 children this month a record i once heard a worker brag. she did not care where they went or what realy happened she got the call and was able to search hard enough to find a little dirt and take the kids. and she chalked them up on her score card like a WWII ace counted jap zeros
but then again thats the way our leagle system works too
HMMMMM

United States

#4 Feb 5, 2008
My Pet Goat wrote:
Since this is a children's agency, SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE BACKGROUND CHECKS PRIOR TO EMPLOYING EVERYONE?!
In the words of Dr. Evil: "Why must I be surrounded by frickin' idiots?"
---------- No kidding! They operate on a level of NEGLIGENCE that does not make any sense, and would not cut the mustard in the corporate world. Out here... management would look to H/R ... and heads would roll! No one with a brain wants that liability! However, why do a background check when you are hiring friends, buddies, and family? It's all family, and they've been living off the tax teat for a long long time.. why ruin a good thing with a petty detail like: education/ qualifications, criminal background check? That would ruin this good good thing ... now wouldn't it? In the meantime, they have no problem running FDLES on the families they remove children from... and if a father creates a child with a woman.. and they get into it ... or the mother in law just doesn't like you .. she calls in a report... suddenly FATHERS criminal background can cause him to HAVE TO LEAVE THE HOME even though he's the father.. and has not harmed the child ... because he's got a FDLE report... but, the workers? Can be drunks, drug addicts, the works, and that is okayyy.. So, in my view, since their doing background checks...why not try drug testing... they'd be amazed as to what turned up!

“World Traveler”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#5 Feb 5, 2008
OK, this headline sounded so stupid that I had to read and reread this article.

Let's see ... prospective adoptive or foster parents must submit fingerprints to state law enforcement agencies and the FBI, submit a thorough background history, and provide multiple written references attesting to their good moral character, before being approved to continue the process of becoming adoptive/foster parents. Now we are to believe that the DCF has not extended these same requirements to its employees and social workers, who often come into daily contact with these vulnerable children. Amazing, absolutely amazing!!!
NO KIDDING

United States

#6 Feb 5, 2008
These very same people are doing just that! Remember the rule of DCF "WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE...IS NOT GOOD FOR THE GANDER.." Only in Florida do you find DCF workers removing children left & right for any infraction ... for FEAR for the childs safety! CYA is the RULE OF THE ROAD! But when it comes to them? It's a new game! BTW... these folks aren't even drug tested prior to being hired (unlike corporate america) and nor are they RANDOMLY tested. It's a whole different world than the one WE LIVE IN!
mohammed speaks

Nomans Land, MA

#7 Feb 5, 2008
NO KIDDING wrote:
These very same people are doing just that! Remember the rule of DCF "WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE...IS NOT GOOD FOR THE GANDER.." Only in Florida do you find DCF workers removing children left & right for any infraction ... for FEAR for the childs safety! CYA is the RULE OF THE ROAD! But when it comes to them? It's a new game! BTW... these folks aren't even drug tested prior to being hired (unlike corporate america) and nor are they RANDOMLY tested. It's a whole different world than the one WE LIVE IN!
This is going to be quiteunbelieveble but i tell you its true!! Years ago early 90s or maybe before 60 mins did a piece on dcf. An elderly couple had a pet raccoon or something called baby, someone as a joke called dcf to innestigate when they came to the door the couple laughed at them and showed them that the was no baby in the house..the ''investigators become angry and demanded to know what happened to the ''baby'' next thing the couple get served to appear by a cop to show cause or whatever the term is..
Still thinking its all a big joke they think nothing of it and show up at court with the pet and no lawyer to show the judge who exactly ''baby''is well the husband is not allowed in the courthouse with the pet the wife is bewildered in court while they issue a bench warrant for him all the while shes trying to tell the judge that hes outside with ''baby''
Finally common sense prevails and the judge sees what the situation is and they are told to go home alls ok..
Later the couple finds out that they are on some child abusers list!! And no amount of money court dates lawyers has been able to help!! This was like 8 months After that oringinal day in court with the raccoon!! THIS IS TRUE I remember watching it late 80s early 90s i think.
So the moral to this story and all the other horror stories we hear is twofold first, absolute power corrupts abosolutly, second theres nothing more destructive than barney fife with a clipboard!! all true i swear i seen it!!
ignorance is bliss

Lady Lake, FL

#8 Feb 5, 2008
This is one individual...how he didn't get fingerprinted, I couldn't tell you, but you can't blame the actions of one person on a whole angency. You can't always predict people. But...being fingerprinted and drug screened is a requirement for DCF employees who have direct contact with children...and yes, employees can be drug tested at anytime and background screens are cunducted evey five years. Children do not get snatched from homes randomly. Anywho who says any different probably had their children removed at some point in their lives and they are in denial about whatever it is they did to have that happen.
BALONEY

Kissimmee, FL

#9 Feb 5, 2008
ignorance is bliss wrote:
This is one individual...how he didn't get fingerprinted, I couldn't tell you, but you can't blame the actions of one person on a whole angency. You can't always predict people. But...being fingerprinted and drug screened is a requirement for DCF employees who have direct contact with children...and yes, employees can be drug tested at anytime and background screens are cunducted evey five years. Children do not get snatched from homes randomly. Anywho who says any different probably had their children removed at some point in their lives and they are in denial about whatever it is they did to have that happen.
---------- I don't know who or what agency you work for, or when you started working there, but the fact is the Secretary of the State admitted that 13,500 people HAVE NOT been routinely finger printed, drug tested prior to hire, and their background checks were not from FDLE, or elsewhere, for years. This is Bob Butterworth...acknowledging that the ENTIRE agency has a pattern of NOT running background checks. As to this other comment you are making about the guilty conscience of people .. and that the only reason they are complaining is because they did something wrong ... your wrong ... the reason why people are so upset is because has been DOCUMENTED making mistakes, and removing children in excess, for no other purpose than CYA! That is why the former Lt. Gov Buddy came in with concerned families to address the OVER REMOVAL of children from homes when it was not necessary. People are not making up stories... but, after a few months on the job..at DCF... you may learn... the truth ... or not.. depending upon what YOUR experience and exposure are at this time.
robin

AOL

#10 Feb 12, 2008
according the federal law, all children are considered wards of state.they belong to the govt.
parents are caretakers only.
read up on STRAWMAN and see for yourself.

amazingly, the recorded number of children who are molested and sexually abused AFTER being taken from their homes, by foster parents, etc... is 29%
here in Florida.this is the number they are admitting to!

whenever they come to your house, U CAN tell them to go away.do NOT ever ever ever let them step foot in your house.once they cross your threshold, you have effectively given up all of your rights to privacy.they have now entered the body, like a virus.

tell them "to come back with a WARRANT".
simple and effective.they have to have warrent to enter your home, unless YOU let them in and once inside you have LOST.

they will lie to you and in fact, are ENCOURAGED to do so.
all in the name of the 'childs safety'.

if you dont remember anything else ive written, remember these words:

GET A WARRANT!
ROBIN IS RIGHT

United States

#11 Feb 12, 2008
The problem in Florida is UNLIKE THE SUNSHINE LAWS on OTHER PUBLIC DOCUMENTS the DEPT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES does not allow anyone (including foster children when their adults) to have access to their records. So you cannot keep a score sheet on how things reported, by whom, or by what. ITS A SECRET. DCF CLAIMS its to protect foster parents from being tracked down like rats, by foster children, and their families. Really? I remember every foster home I was ever in, and where they live, and their names, what I dont' have is my DCF records, to see who said what to justify some of the actions taken by DCF. So we only know what DCF wants us to know about what goes on in these homes, and how, when, and where these kids were removed from their families. WE have no IDEA what happens to these kids once they leave the system, but good guestimates state that only 1% of the kids who are in foster care actually graduate from Highschool, as opposed to children who remain with their families who had reports of abuse, and many of the former foster kids end up homeless, and in prison. So, they are NOT BETTER OFF FOR INTERVENTION in greater numbers than DCF suggests. Furthermore, you do not have to let DCF into your house, the statute only requires that the worker SEE THE KID: not the house. Nor do you have to allow them to interview your child alone w/o your presence, or the presence of an attorney. DCF LIES ALOT ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS, and minimizes the rights of the family who has been reported. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS OPEN THE DOOR - and keep DCF OUTSIDE of your home - and let them SEE the child without ever letting them IN your house - or alone with your kid. DCF workers have been known to get crazy with their so called documentation: once in Lake County, a DCF worker stripped a kid bare naked and took PICTURES OF THE KID front, back, etc., and put them into the file to report, document, whether the child had MARKS on them! R U KIDDING ME? No. You, as a family, have rights, call a lawyer, immediately should DCF turn up on your doorstep.. too many people don't understand their rights...and that is just how DCF likes it...

Robin is also
James

Houston, TX

#12 Feb 19, 2008
Stop DCF’s False Allegations and Perjury!!!
Now if DCF doesn’t have the best resume I have ever seen!!! Would you want your child in this system? Well then DO SOMETHING!!!! Call your Senator, the Governor, call the local news and ask that something be done NOW!!! Before it is too late for another child!!!
Don’t say I can’t do anything. You can call, you can write, you can make a difference before it’s too late!!! Yes, you can save the life, the hopes and dreams of a child!!! You can make DCF ensure that only children that truly need assistance are in DCF’s care and that foster care be a safe place!!!
Don’t believe every case DCF has is truly a case of abuse, they have been wrong and will be again. Watch the following video then write your Government today;
William Dunn’s 4 yr struggle with DCF of Florida after FALSE allegations
Click Below link
&fe ature=related
This is not the first time they have gone so far with false accusations or fruitless cases, it won’t be the last.
Do it for the children, do it for someone you love, do it for the families, do it because you could be the next one in their grasps.
Governor’s E-Mail
[email protected] m
[email protected]
Senator Putnam Contact page
http://www.house.gov/putnam/pages/contact.htm...
Don’t think it can’t happen to you or some one you love.
Abolish DCF

Houston, TX

#13 Feb 19, 2008
Stop DCF’s False Allegations and Perjury!!!
Now if DCF doesn’t have the best resume I have ever seen!!! Would you want your child in this system? Well then DO SOMETHING!!!! Call your Senator, the Governor, call the local news and ask that something be done NOW!!! Before it is too late for another child!!!

Don’t say I can’t do anything. You can call, you can write, you can make a difference before it’s too late!!! Yes, you can save the life, the hopes and dreams of a child!!! You can make DCF ensure that only children that truly need assistance are in DCF’s care and that foster care be a safe place!!!

Don’t believe every case DCF has is truly a case of abuse, they have been wrong and will be again. Watch the following video then write your Government today;

William Dunn’s 4 yr struggle with DCF of Florida after FALSE allegations
Click Below link
&fe ature=related

This is not the first time they have gone so far with false accusations or fruitless cases, it won’t be the last.

Do it for the children, do it for someone you love, do it for the families, do it because you could be the next one in their grasps.

Governor’s E-Mail

[email protected] m

[email protected]

Senator Putnam Contact page
http://www.house.gov/putnam/pages/contact.htm...

Don’t think it can’t happen to you or some one you love.
carlene

Altamonte Springs, FL

#14 Feb 23, 2008
I am the mother of four children, I also raired two of my nices and none of them were ever removed from my cousty, yet I do see how evil florida dcf is and it has nothing to do with my children, they are family and children destoriers not protectors
ignorance is bliss wrote:
This is one individual...how he didn't get fingerprinted, I couldn't tell you, but you can't blame the actions of one person on a whole angency. You can't always predict people. But...being fingerprinted and drug screened is a requirement for DCF employees who have direct contact with children...and yes, employees can be drug tested at anytime and background screens are cunducted evey five years. Children do not get snatched from homes randomly. Anywho who says any different probably had their children removed at some point in their lives and they are in denial about whatever it is they did to have that happen.
Appalled

Kissimmee, FL

#15 Dec 19, 2008
Lake County prosecutors forced two children I know to lie by threatening them with prosecution if they don't. I know of a case where statutory rape charges were filed against a male only to have DCF take the children of the people filing the complaint away from them instead of filing the charges agains the rapist. After nearly 3 years, there are stil no charges in the rape, the police say the prosecutor has the file, the prosecutor says the police has the file, the children are not living at home, and no one in Lake County gives a crap.
nsb fl

AOL

#17 Apr 10, 2009
dcf has ripped a child from a home and placed him with the grandmothers sister. the sister has always wanted the child and has told dcf everything she knows about the family the child was taken from. they are going to give this 62 year old woman custody of a 3 year old because she has money.....whats's wrong with this ? the grandparents have no rights. you can't fight them.
Sad

Leavenworth, KS

#18 Dec 26, 2010
DCF just took my three grandchildren on December 22, 2010. Just 3 days before Christmas by a DCF Worker who has criminal charges in her background. Where is background checking here? I have no idea where they are or who has them.. They are gone! If there is anyone interested in helping me you can e-mail me at [email protected],com.
evie

Tallahassee, FL

#19 Dec 27, 2010
Unfortunatly this is the case for ALL or most state of florida agencies. Good people are dismissed for minor infractions while the worst fo the worst are promoted.
Hopefully the new Gov when he gets in will clean house. I already have my letter ready to be sent in.
DCF gavve me hell when I was raising my kdis for NO
reason, these people are unqualified for the positions period. Most are fresh out of college from Tallahassee and do not have a clue what is happening.

The one person who said FLorida kids are not yours is correct. I used to tell people look on the bottom of your kids left foot. It will read.
PROPRTY OF THE GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA

Demand to be given the rights to parent your kdis and save your children from years of abuse is on state programs to included DJJ which is were most kids end up
Randy

Sarasota, FL

#20 Aug 11, 2011
Florida DCF needs to screen employees from the past and will find half of them are crooks and liars
tanya de la paz -edwards

Greer, SC

#21 Feb 15, 2013
ROBIN IS RIGHT wrote:
The problem in Florida is UNLIKE THE SUNSHINE LAWS on OTHER PUBLIC DOCUMENTS the DEPT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES does not allow anyone (including foster children when their adults) to have access to their records. So you cannot keep a score sheet on how things reported, by whom, or by what. ITS A SECRET. DCF CLAIMS its to protect foster parents from being tracked down like rats, by foster children, and their families. Really? I remember every foster home I was ever in, and where they live, and their names, what I dont' have is my DCF records, to see who said what to justify some of the actions taken by DCF. So we only know what DCF wants us to know about what goes on in these homes, and how, when, and where these kids were removed from their families. WE have no IDEA what happens to these kids once they leave the system, but good guestimates state that only 1% of the kids who are in foster care actually graduate from Highschool, as opposed to children who remain with their families who had reports of abuse, and many of the former foster kids end up homeless, and in prison. So, they are NOT BETTER OFF FOR INTERVENTION in greater numbers than DCF suggests. Furthermore, you do not have to let DCF into your house, the statute only requires that the worker SEE THE KID: not the house. Nor do you have to allow them to interview your child alone w/o your presence, or the presence of an attorney. DCF LIES ALOT ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS, and minimizes the rights of the family who has been reported. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS OPEN THE DOOR - and keep DCF OUTSIDE of your home - and let them SEE the child without ever letting them IN your house - or alone with your kid. DCF workers have been known to get crazy with their so called documentation: once in Lake County, a DCF worker stripped a kid bare naked and took PICTURES OF THE KID front, back, etc., and put them into the file to report, document, whether the child had MARKS on them! R U KIDDING ME? No. You, as a family, have rights, call a lawyer, immediately should DCF turn up on your doorstep.. too many people don't understand their rights...and that is just how DCF

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Robin is also
How can i find out where my son is. They made me turn myself in on a warrant and then took my rights while i was taking care of it. How the hell can they do this. I have no clue how my son is or anything all i know is my heart has a empty place and i want my son back.. he will be 14 on monday. They claimed i was a deug addict. Passed all their test did evwrything they told me to do and in return they stole my son. If i was so bad of a mother why the hell did they not take my secound son who i was prwgnant with at the time. Ex's called on me and my own case manager said i will get him back and next thing i know my rights were terminatted. Iwill find my son if its the last thing i do on this green earth. He now has 3 brother and a sister who live with me and never had dcf cps called on us. The last time dcf came to my home was in 06 after my secound to yougest was born because a social worker at the hospital said i was a endangerment to my baby. After asking me very painful and hurtful queations while i was in labor so yes i cused her ass out and told her to get out of the room. Next day a social worker came to my house from dcf and looked at my home talked to everyone and came back to tell me my home was emaculante and my kids are well taken care of. She said they way my case was handled was very poorly and they used my mothers history against me. How the hell is this fair. My worrie ia my son hates me and not being well cared for. I worrie and think about him all day all the time. Holidays are bad and his bday are worse.... DCF NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN!! And started with ppl who actually care

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