Missing 5-year-old Florida girl likely was abducted, police say

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King George

Seymour, IN

#97208 Oct 31, 2013
Karma wrote:
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Hello King George,
Glad to see you posting. I agree, its easy to get wrapped up in these cases and try to stay up on them hoping to see justice served for these poor children. I also agree that they must have been waiting for Merchant to mess up so they could get rid of him.
Have you found any new info regarding Lisa Irwin? Last I read, it was thought (by Deb), that she may have been the lil girl found in that camp in Greece. Or that she looked like her.
I thought that she resembled the age progressed photo of Lisa, too.
Authorities said that dental forensics had been used to estimate the age of the little girl, and she was 4 to 6. They said it couldn't be Lisa since she is only 3.
The National Center for Biotechnology Information says that forensic dentistry does not give an accurate estimate of age.
Karma

Canton, OH

#97209 Oct 31, 2013
Ponderings wrote:
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I am here ... mostly just reading. Thank you for the compliment!
Very welcome Ponderings! I meant it!=)
Karma

Canton, OH

#97210 Oct 31, 2013
Sami wrote:
GM ALL!
Nice to see ya Ponderings!:)
karma, my husband is doing good, thanks. ITA with you. IMO Shawn did kill poor lil Hailey and it's sickening that Billie stuck by and defended him instead of her innocent, helpless, daughter. Like you said there were too many strange things going on. Nobody wakes up and goes to work to quit and lies about it. He is then gone for hours. He was the last one to see Hailey and he says she just happened to tell him she was staying at a friends home where she had never stayed all ngt. before and the friend said she was not expecting her. So why did Billie feel the need to cover, defend and lie for Shawn, was she involved or did she know what happened?
That's great Sami, glad he is doing good! O yea, imo Billie knew what happened, just chose her freak over the one she gave birth to! Can't wrap my head around what makes these mothers do this! But now, when I googled this case, I couldn't find any information regarding any arrests. Wasn't it even said on here sometime ago that Bilie and Shawn had child porn stashed at their home? Wonder why no arrests regarding that. Or, was that just something one of the posters on here thought was goin on? I know I remember reading about it anyway. But still, body found, now what??
Karma

Canton, OH

#97211 Oct 31, 2013
King George wrote:
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Praying that they charge Steven with homicide.
A poster on Websleuths, who is a member of the Steinfurth family, said that Elaina had come home previously with a large gash in the back of her head. This had happened while she and her 4 year old sister were visiting with their mother at the King house. The 4 year old told them that Steven King had shaken Elaina, and thrown her down. She'd landed on something that cut her head.
That's probably the reason that their father did not want the girls over there.
On the day Elaina "disappeared", Terry had gone to get the girls, and Angela (the mother) sent out only the 4 year old. She refused to bring Elaina out. Terry drove back to get his father. When he reached his father's house, the 4 yr old ran to the house screaming and crying that she was afraid of Steven.
Given a past history of being violently abusive toward Elaina, and the lengths Steven's family went to in order to cover up this crime, I'd say, Steven is the one responsible for beating Elaina to death.
GM KG,

I hope they charge Steven too! Thanks for sharing, I didn't know she had a gash on her head from this monster! Hmm, maybe that explains why Julie (Steven's mother) only told the story of Angela's abuse twd Elaina. Then "claimed" she was planning on reporting it but didn't b/c she didn't want the kids to be
"caught up in the system". Poor excuse. I do believe the witnesses that saw her abuse this poor lil baby, I believe it was Angela's friend that said she would leave her alone for hours at a time. So, I personally hope that she is charged right along with Steven. Then the neighbor said it was unusual for those two to pull out (I think it was between midnight and 1:00 a.m.), and were back w/i 10-15 mins. Wonder if they were looking for a hiding spot for Elaina. That happened the same morning/day the baby was reported missing.
Karma

Canton, OH

#97212 Oct 31, 2013
King George wrote:
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I thought that she resembled the age progressed photo of Lisa, too.
Authorities said that dental forensics had been used to estimate the age of the little girl, and she was 4 to 6. They said it couldn't be Lisa since she is only 3.
The National Center for Biotechnology Information says that forensic dentistry does not give an accurate estimate of age.
When the two photos were side by side, I did think there was a resemblance of the age progression photo as well KG. They found the biological mother, a 35 yr old Bulgarian Roma woman who said she gave her away b/c she was too poor to care for her. The mother said she had her four yrs ago.
Karma

Canton, OH

#97213 Oct 31, 2013
Casey Parsons sent an email to WBTV defending herself for cashing the checks sent to care for Erica. She feels b/c her and Sandy did not sign their rights away for Erica that they were still entitled to the assistance. She went on to list the circumstances in her State in which the asst can be terminated. The fourth bullet down states the adoptive parent is no longer providing financial support for this child. IIRC she did not provide proof that she was financially providing for her for the last two yrs. She also felt entitled b/c they had an "out of home arrangement" for her. Really?? But she somehow has no idea where she is at. Hmm. Sami, like you said before, nothing in writing about this arrangement, not even something signed should she need medical care while in the hands of "Nan".

Here is the link.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/23822240/adoptive-m...
Sami

Howell, MI

#97214 Oct 31, 2013
lol, Karma, Casey is delusional if she thinks we believe or agree with a thing she says. She can continue on with her bs all she wants, but I'd say she has some prison time coming.
Karma

Canton, OH

#97215 Oct 31, 2013
Sami wrote:
lol, Karma, Casey is delusional if she thinks we believe or agree with a thing she says. She can continue on with her bs all she wants, but I'd say she has some prison time coming.
I know right? She is givin it her best isn't she? Blaming James for the reason Erica may not be coming fwd, now saying she was/is entitled to the assistance for her. Should be interesting to see whats next.
EyeOfTheNewt

Cape Coral, FL

#97217 Nov 1, 2013
TGIF and A Cheery G/M to all! Actually, I'm not as cheerful as I might sound. Have been reading up on the missing Erica Parsons links, and oh boy! Would I ever love to shake Caseys' liver lose. This $-mad woman and her disgusting pig of a husband were abusing this child all along and just keep lying and squiring and twisting.

Take a careful look at Ericas' photos. The right side of her nose is bulbous and the bridge of her nose grew out of joint. TWO BREAKS! How painful that must have been for this child! It would have affected her sinuses and normal breathing too. BUULLLLSHYT!! No lily white girl is born with a nose shaped like this, and even if they were it could have been easily corrected with minor surgery.

NOW Casey claims, among other distortions, that James came at her with a baseball bat and that's why they threw him out. Well touche'sha'! So what if he did! Too bad he couldn't have beat her brains out before she killed this child and kept getting paid by the gov't for doing it for the next two years!
EyeOfTheNewt

Cape Coral, FL

#97218 Nov 1, 2013
Sami wrote:
lol, Karma, Casey is delusional if she thinks we believe or agree with a thing she says. She can continue on with her bs all she wants, but I'd say she has some prison time coming.
She sure the f-k IS delusional Sami. DIRTY CONNIVING B'TCH!! She tormented and killed that child as sure as I'm sitting here. AND swindled the gov'mt AND paid herself for doing it!
EyeOfTheNewt

Cape Coral, FL

#97219 Nov 1, 2013
Karma wrote:
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When the two photos were side by side, I did think there was a resemblance of the age progression photo as well KG. They found the biological mother, a 35 yr old Bulgarian Roma woman who said she gave her away b/c she was too poor to care for her. The mother said she had her four yrs ago.
Karma, the reason I couldn't see any resemblance in the pretty little gypsy girl and Lisa Irwin was because not only did this child look older than Lisa would have been, but this little girl had a much smaller head than baby Lisa. Baby Lisa had an unusually large head and this child has a small head.

One would think that a real mother would have taken one glance as this photo and known it wasn't her child. Killer mom Deb is just looking for any excuse she can find to claim her child is still alive when she knows damned well she killed her baby and set the wheels in motion to dispose of her.

I don't really think the time progression photo would look like Lisa today either, which I understand Deborah Bradley has framed and hanging in her house. IMO, the time progression photo looks way older than Lisa would be today. Lisa today, at not even three yet, would still look more like a toddler than this photo does. But this is just my opinion.

I hope some wealthy starlet in this country will go and get this beautiful little gypsy girl. According to family photos, she also has sisters who have a lot of her same characteristics.
EyeOfTheNewt

Cape Coral, FL

#97220 Nov 1, 2013
I am just sick to my stomach about how these mothers, steps, and boyfriends, and others, can keep abusing and killing these precious children and keep getting away with it!!! Poor babies and children. So so sad.

Alls I can think to say is at least they are in a better place than they would have been had they continued to live in their sick hatred and abusive homes at the mercy of their abusers. For this, I thank God that they had a better place to go to.
EyeOfTheNewt

Cape Coral, FL

#97221 Nov 1, 2013
Karma wrote:
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GM KG,
I hope they charge Steven too! Thanks for sharing, I didn't know she had a gash on her head from this monster! Hmm, maybe that explains why Julie (Steven's mother) only told the story of Angela's abuse twd Elaina. Then "claimed" she was planning on reporting it but didn't b/c she didn't want the kids to be
"caught up in the system". Poor excuse. I do believe the witnesses that saw her abuse this poor lil baby, I believe it was Angela's friend that said she would leave her alone for hours at a time. So, I personally hope that she is charged right along with Steven. Then the neighbor said it was unusual for those two to pull out (I think it was between midnight and 1:00 a.m.), and were back w/i 10-15 mins. Wonder if they were looking for a hiding spot for Elaina. That happened the same morning/day the baby was reported missing.
Sweet sweet little baby. Sick sick SICK, disgusting killer b'stards!! They hid that childs' body somewhere then brought her back and placed her in a box in the garage after they thought the coast was all clear? Two more who will rot in hell, including those who helped to cover up this child's abuse and murder.
Sami

Howell, MI

#97222 Nov 1, 2013
GM ALL!

Yes, Annie & Karma, Casey is a lying child murderer and she just makes you want to shake the fu-- out of her lying azz and tell her to stop the bs. I can't even believe she tells this crap with a straight face. We are in desperate need of some common sense laws. Her off the wall bs is right up there with babykiller Casey A. I can't believe kids can go poof and those responsible can just come up with anything and nothing can be done. Friggen invisible ppl???....ugh

Yep, Angela and her bf think it's ok to beat up on babies then she has the nerve to cry in court and say she wants to go home. Well, guess what, Angela, you're at home.
EyeOfTheNewt

Cape Coral, FL

#97223 Nov 1, 2013
Sami wrote:
GM ALL!
Yes, Annie & Karma, Casey is a lying child murderer and she just makes you want to shake the fu-- out of her lying azz and tell her to stop the bs. I can't even believe she tells this crap with a straight face. We are in desperate need of some common sense laws. Her off the wall bs is right up there with babykiller Casey A. I can't believe kids can go poof and those responsible can just come up with anything and nothing can be done. Friggen invisible ppl???....ugh
Yep, Angela and her bf think it's ok to beat up on babies then she has the nerve to cry in court and say she wants to go home. Well, guess what, Angela, you're at home.
It's just MADDENING! I tell ya, I am almost starting to believe in vigilante justice; in particular where children are involved since these people just keep on and on getting away with abusing and killing their children, or allowing it to be done!! Just track 'em down and blow their brains out, maybe THEN some of these future child abusers/killers would stop to think about what they're doing before they do it.

Now, all you can hope for is that they "maybe" get to spend their remaining days in prison and are repeatedly beaten by other criminals. The sad truth is that they DON'T. They keep ON getting away with killing, lying and hiding what they did and nobody is doing a damned thing about it!!

Here's one that happened: My FIL after his retirement was appointed as Court Baliff to a friend judge in Kenton Co, Ky, a political appt. They had a prisoner who was awaiting trial on the top floor of the court house, who had raped and viciously murdered a nun. It was my FILs' job to go up privately and escort him down to trial.

The elevator from the jail room where the prison was held, to the court room below, ran very slowly. On the way down, my FIL beat the HELL outta this handcuffed and chained prisoner. The prisoner said,'I'm going to tell the judge what you did to me' my FLW said,'just remember you have to go back up this elevator with me'. On it happened. My FIL told us all about it at Thanksgiving dinner.
EyeOfTheNewt

Cape Coral, FL

#97224 Nov 1, 2013
My FIL was raised catholic until he was twelve years old and ran away, claiming he hated catholics.(NOT!) Lived in a w'hore house and was raised by prostitutes from the time he was twelve, in Newport/Covington, Ky; even tho his heritage by birth was Jewish, then became a bar bouncer before mom got hold of the handsome devil, straightened out his life and made something out of him.

(Long story, how that all came about). He got my phony proper MIL from a good Kentucky family, knocked up and had to marry her. ha ha... my hubby was an early 'premie' and I was the one who figured out the truth, realizing 'mom' had lied all those years about the date of their marriage, but then gave a 50th anniv party when she would have only been married 5 1/2 months when my hubby was born. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Talk about breaking the crystal bowl, so to speak, I DID. I kid you not, some of these old folks had some very heavy skeletons in their closets.
EyeOfTheNewt

Cape Coral, FL

#97225 Nov 1, 2013
Sorry about all my typos and errors. Hope you can figure out what I'm trying to say. Hell, I don't even catch my errors when I proof read. I need coffee!!
Someone knows

Bethlehem, PA

#97226 Nov 1, 2013
I hope and pray that one day soon, we will all know what became of little Haleigh Cummings. Someone and probably more then one person, knows exactly what happened. How they can live with that information and not come forward with it is disturbing.

Level 1

Since: Jan 13

Bloomington, IN

#97227 Nov 1, 2013
Someone knows wrote:
I hope and pray that one day soon, we will all know what became of little Haleigh Cummings. Someone and probably more then one person, knows exactly what happened. How they can live with that information and not come forward with it is disturbing.
I agree. But I don't think there is anyone outside the family circle who knows.
Karma

Canton, OH

#97228 Nov 1, 2013
Someone knows wrote:
I hope and pray that one day soon, we will all know what became of little Haleigh Cummings. Someone and probably more then one person, knows exactly what happened. How they can live with that information and not come forward with it is disturbing.
It really is disturbing they have all managed to keep their mouths shut this whole time. IMO, thats b/c they would rather do the time for drugs than the sentence they would have recvd for murder.

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