Missing 5-year-old Florida girl likely was abducted, police say

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Vic wrote:
Morning Guys,
It reminds me of a song by Smoky Robinson,"Tears of a Clown". No, grief cannot be turned on and off, you carry it around but you've got to live for the living,my son needs me to be strong and I would never let him down. We got a long road ahead but that POS will not take my family down.
I think Hank's advise was too little too late. He was a junkie,Lisa too,hopefully he will stay clean and do a better job with his grandchildren.
Mornin' Vic! Don't think I've heard the Smoky Robinson song, "Tears of a Clown" but will try to download it. Re the grief subject, there's no way to overcome grief or pick up and go on without pleading for Gods' help; at least there wasn't any other way for me for 7 long yrs after my husband passed on. I was immobilized, making necessary motions that didn't matter whether I made them or not. I can't explain it without falling into another deep pit of despair so I won't try.

I just know this, the loss of a dearly beloved close loved one is life changing forever in everything you do and there is no way to escape it. You relive everything you said and did with that person, what you said and didn't say, what you wish you'd said and did, and wish you hadn't done or said, over and over. There is no way to fake grief and there is no way to hide it.

Hannah Anderson doesn't have an ounce of grief over the loss of her mother, brother or the dog. If anything, she appears glad her mother is dead. Maybe Ethans' and the dogs' murders bothers her a little, but not her mother; and she likely has justified their deaths as having no choice when they got in the way of her raging hatred of her mother; the dog for going ballistic, barking and trying to protect them, and of course, Ethan would tell on her.

She gives her own guilt away. Initially she said she did not know they were dead until the FBI agent told her; NOW she says she was handcuffed and Ethan was gagged, tied up, upstairs, and calling out for help but she couldn't help him. WHAT a conniving liar!
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The fact COULD BE, that Ethan tried to stop Hannah and protect his mother; DiMaggio ALSO could have tried to stop Hannah if she is the one who did it and not him. It COULD BE that James ran with her and set the house to burn down to protect HER. That's just it, we don't know! This I DO know, she is a liar and a manipulator!

We don't know if that is the day they actually died or could it have been a day earlier, or the night before, or that morning before James took Hannah to school (no one ever said who 'took' her for the practice session, or what time, or how long it lasted), and maybe the long trip to the extra practice session was to lay the ground work for an alibi.

The two cell phones being turned off from 4:00 to 8:00 p.m. that day was a deliberate scheme. What were they doing during those mysterious four missing hours and WHY did they fear someone might call them?

James DiMaggio was a kind but weak man who allowed himself to be used up by the Anderson family, taking advantage of his kindness and love for them. God only knows how much $ they owed him that they had promised to pay back and never did. A stronger person would have dumped them years ago, but he had no family other than his distant sister and he needed a family, he needed to belong.

He had KNOWN that he couldn't trust them, this is one of the reasons he had given for making the paternal G/M the beneficiary on his $112,000 LIP; the other reason being that he felt he owed her for letting him stay in her home while he saved the $ for the down payment on the home he purchased.

I'd betcha if we knew how much $ they hooked and crooked and conned out of him it would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. What other reason could there be that he was being foreclosed on and unable to save his home; when he was still making the same salary he made at the time he qualified for the loan? They had run the poor devil in debt so deeply he couldn't recover.

We don't know what went on in that house and we never will as this little lyin' b'tch is never going to tell the truth.
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Vic wrote:
Morning Guys,
It reminds me of a song by Smoky Robinson,"Tears of a Clown". No, grief cannot be turned on and off, you carry it around but you've got to live for the living,my son needs me to be strong and I would never let him down. We got a long road ahead but that POS will not take my family down. I think Hank's advise was too little too late. He was a junkie,Lisa too,hopefully he will stay clean and do a better job with his grandchildren.
Vic, I just wanted to say, you stick by your guns with this nasty POS DIL from hell. Call on the name of Jesus at all times and rebuke her! You know exactly what I mean. He will guide you, and HE will lead you, and HE will send His angels to protect you in all your ways. HIS guidance was the only strength I had when I was taking my precious G/D away from her mother and thereafter. I was fighting satan and the demons of hell and I KNEW it. Every step of the way I turned to Him and sought HIS wisdom, I fought hard, and I KNEW I was doing the right thing. It is no sin for you to get angry. Remember, Jesus HIMSELF got angry.

You just hold on and be strong. It might not take as long for you to get rid of her as you think it will. However long it takes, one day you will see it all behind you. Here's a tip for you: Go on Face book and track her down if you haven't already. Throw yourself in there and interject your OWN comments. You'll know what to say and when to make your little snide remarks. What can she do? Block you? By then you've already said your piece!!

This is what I did when I saw my G/Ds' mother trying to suck up with her on her Face book. I completely drove her off my G/Ds' Face book page with just a few posts. The only thing, I can't trust her not to show up again or not to be posting privately with my G/D, who will not discuss her mother; nor can I trust her not to lure my G/D to run away with her someday. You can NEVER trust these low-life b'tches from hell! They not only will (or have) destroyed your son, they will ALSO destroy the children if they get half a chance.
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Vic wrote:
Morning Guys,
It reminds me of a song by Smoky Robinson,"Tears of a Clown". No, grief cannot be turned on and off, you carry it around but you've got to live for the living,my son needs me to be strong and I would never let him down. We got a long road ahead but that POS will not take my family down. I think Hank's advise was too little too late. He was a junkie,Lisa too,hopefully he will stay clean and do a better job with his grandchildren.
Vic, I wanted to add that I question whether or not Hank was as big a junkie as Lisa was. He did work when he could and wasn't doped up, it was HIM who kept the family together, not Lisa. What I wonder is how much of a prior record do they both have; in Fla, Tenn & Mich? I don't know how to pull up these old court records,(I can't even pull up the current ones!) but wish I could. We do know that Lisa would steal as she got apprehended for stealing a purse from the WalMart; and Tommy would steal as he stole personal items from a blind mans' home right in Satsuma.

We know also that it was either Hank or Lisa (or both) who tried to keep a handle on Mistys' wild behavior, having her brought back when she ran off out of state with some guy when she was 14, but I don't think we ever heard the whole story about this; only that 'they' took steps had her brought back.

Also, I believe Hank Sr had tried on more than one occasion to get Misty away from Ronald Cummings, who had lured her into his trap at age 15, using her, beating her, doping her and keeping her at his mercy to take care of his kids, then he and skank Teresa trapped her into marrying Ron at age 16 (?)to help cover his dirty tracks. The great mystery to me was, WHY did they agree and sign for her to marry the b'stard?

Yet, Hank would later go to see Misty and Tommy in jail and beg them to tell the truth, just tell the truth. Surely by this time he must have realized that there was NO WAY they could tell the truth without fear of losing their own lives? The whole thing is just a damned sorry shame. So sad. An innocent child is dead and lives are forever destroyed.
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I hope you all are enjoying reading my long posts this morning, but if not; you don't have to agree with me, but please don't tell me you hate my posts as I am feeling SOO much better this morning! The main thing is my throat still hurts from the radiation burns but that too has gotten a little better. Vic, you were right again, the buttermilk is soothing!

Will try to come back later; for now am off to work some more in the kitchen (YES it was/is a HUGE mess in there), and to listen to the lovely gospel hymnals on the radio that I love so much. Many times this is what sustained and encouraged me. You can hear the voices of the angles in some of these songs. I highly recommend it to anyone who needs an uplift, wants to hear from heaven, or just needs to rest their mind and soul. It works. xx000xxx...
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GM ALL! Annie, I enjoy reading your comments and I'm so glad you are feeling a lil better today. One day at a time and don't try to do too much at once.

ITA, Hank did try stop Misty, but imo it was too late, she was already to wild. He also tried to tell Tommy to stop the drugs, but he wanted to do as he pleased too. I do have to say that I don't agree that those with drug charges should get the same or more time then child molesters, murderers and rapist. However, I believe these few got the max cuz they were either involved or know about Haleigh and I do have to give LE credit for that. They got them all. Hope thought she was a bad azz and said she rather take the 20 yrs. and they played her call in court & she got what she asked for.
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Oct 20, 2013
 
ZAZZ, tks., for the update on the trial of that evil monster. That picture of that poor baby being carried in the motel still haunts me. It is believed she was already raped at the trailer before this. That poor baby was so helpless and she looked so broken. This pos sold her own baby for drugs. She should have gotten life. So awful, just so sad.
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Hey Eye,

I've been trying to post but darn keyboard keys keep sticking or stops completely. I so enjoy reading your posts. Your right we've got to keep these evil monsters away,but its hard cause they're very sneaky. My sister's adopted daughter's bi-father has been trying to contact her. He was in prison for along time cause he raped her biomom when she was just fourteen. My sister closely moniters computer but my niece is seventeen now and like your GD, she has a mind of her own. I can't say anything about DIL cause she runs to her lawyer and its brought out in court. I could care less but that means son loses work time and since she's got a cheapo lawyer and son has an expensive one, it gets rather expensive. All we can do is take it one day at a time, pray for strength and never give up.xoxoxox
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Glad you are feeling better Anne! Hope it continues!:)
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Oct 20, 2013
 
Thanks for sharing Zazz. Like Sami said, the video of the creature carrying poor lil Shaniya into that hotel room is very disturbing and forever embedded in our minds. I am glad to hear that POS so called mother is going to do time for prostituting her OWN CHILD!! Agree with Sami on that too, she deserves to spend the rest of her lousy life behind bars! Then while in court, trying to convince someone that she is a "good mother". Was glad to read the judge wasn't going for it!!

Now it's Sandy/Casey Parsons, Justin DiPietro, Terri Horman, Angela Steinfurth, Stephen King, and whomever is responsible for baby Lisa's dissapearance, turn. Not to mention, many more in all other cases of missing children.
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Oct 20, 2013
 
Glad to hear they are making more arrests in the road rage beating of Mr. Lien too! Thrilled they are actually making the ones responsible for their actions pay!!! It really seemed like they were getting away with their reckless driving b/c LE was too afraid to do anything about it. "Hopefully" this will send a message. Highly doubtful but, maybe.
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Hey Anne, about DiMaggio not being a creeper, I disagree, b/c a man of his age, (even if she is throwing herself at him, and imo she was) he should have known better. He was taking her on trips alone, getting upset when she was on her phone with friends b/c all her attention was not on him, and then the trip to no mans land in the end. Now, please do not get me wrong here, I thoroughly believe she is NOT an innocent party in this. I do agree with a lot of what you said and understand Lori when she speaks about her brother etc...I do believe the Anderson's used him as well, I just personally do not think it was appropriate for him to act on his feelings twd her. That's just my opinion though. I understand we can disagree and am not saying you are wrong for the way you feel either. :)
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Karma wrote:
Hey Anne, about DiMaggio not being a creeper, I disagree, b/c a man of his age,(even if she is throwing herself at him, and imo she was) he should have known better. He was taking her on trips alone, getting upset when she was on her phone with friends b/c all her attention was not on him, and then the trip to no mans land in the end. Now, please do not get me wrong here, I thoroughly believe she is NOT an innocent party in this. I do agree with a lot of what you said and understand Lori when she speaks about her brother etc...I do believe the Anderson's used him as well, I just personally do not think it was appropriate for him to act on his feelings twd her. That's just my opinion though. I understand we can disagree and am not saying you are wrong for the way you feel either.:)
Ahhh... You xpress yourself so nicely, Karma! Looking at it from your point of view, I AGREE WITH YOU. She was a 16 yr old T/A and he was 40. That makes him 24 yrs older! And THAT makes him a pedophile if he ever touched her, which I suspect he did, AND with her consensual pleasure; WHICH I suspect her benefit was using him financially as a sugar-daddy and his was actual love for and possessiveness of her. BUT, had he waited another 2 yrs he could have had her legally at 42 and her at 18.

IMO, it's ALL pedophilia, but many men have pulled it off over the years, running off with and marrying younger women/girls. Loretta Lynn was only 13 when she married Doo or whatever his name was and had 6 babies with him. Her parents signed their consent and handed her over to him! Jerry Lee Lewis ran off with and married his 13 yr old cousin and had babies with her.

My dad was 19 years older than my mother! She was 19 and he was almost 39. THEY had 7 kids.(She wasn't too happy either)! I had a dear friend in Cincy who was handed over by her parents to marry this wealthy widowed old man up on the hill, who came down to their house of lesser means and claimed her; she was just 17, HE was 60 something! She despised him. The poor thing. He lived to be in his 90's!!
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IA, Karma, James was a grown adult and he should have know better than to be involved with a child no matter how much she threw herself at him and I'm sure she did and loved the attn. I'd also like to know what the he-- was the matter with the parents. Who even let's a grown man take their daughter on vaca? The whole think is strange.
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New York SUV biker beatdown: Eighth biker charged
Cops have charged Kaliq Douglas, 28, of Brooklyn, was charged with gang assault and assault to cause serious injury in the beating of Alexian Lien.
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 11:27 AM
Updated: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 1:44 PM
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/new-yor...
Zazz; One day during this past week, I read the headlines where the charges against one of these bikers had been dropped. But I was feeling too sickly that day to sit here and read the article, so I don't know which one it was. Wish I had because I've been wondering if it was the biker Gloria Alred is representing. If so; without a trial, I would consider that to be legal hanky panky going on among the legal forces that be. Do you have any idea which biker it was who had their charges dropped, and why?
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Sami wrote:
IA, Karma, James was a grown adult and he should have know better than to be involved with a child no matter how much she threw herself at him and I'm sure she did and loved the attn. I'd also like to know what the he-- was the matter with the parents. Who even let's a grown man take their daughter on vaca? The whole think is strange.
It certainly IS strange Sami. Oh, I'm sure she didn't portray herself as a child, dress or act like one, but who the hell would allow their 16 yr old to shack up with an older man, or ANY man for that matter. They spent whole days alone together, they took trips together and stayed in the same motel room together.
What the hell did the parents think they were allowing their daughter to be subjected too, or to do of her own volition? Hannah is obviously a headstrong, spiteful, rebellious girl who is going to get her own way, come hell or high water.
I can't imagine that neither one of the parents even tried to stop her, can you? OR, just maybe the mother HAD tried to stop her and THIS is what cost Tina her life, along with the brother and the dog!
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Zazz, thank you for the update on the trial of poor little Shaniyas' mother, Antionette. I can't imagine that the rape charge against killer McNeill was dropped as he DID clearly rape the child, likely more than once, and murdered her in the process! I don't care whether detective brow-beat her or not; she deserved the death penalty, right along with him as she DID hand the child over to him whether it was to settle a drug debt or for whatever reason, not caring what he would do to her. She ALLOWED him to rape and kill her baby.

I felt sorry for her bio father when I saw him in interviews. He was pitiful, and I believe a good man. Not very smart, but a decent fella who loved his baby. WHY he ever allowed that visitation with Shaniya's mother was a complete mystery to me, KNOWING she was no good and on drugs.

I, like you all, still see the look on that baby's face as killer McNeill was holding her in his arm while waiting for the elevator; knowing she was on her way right then to her horrible death. She was a truly beautiful child. I will never forget that look or this beautiful little girl.
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Did you see the articles I posted for you on page 4667 about JonBenet?
Posts numbers: 46930-46935.
Zazz, I apologize, I did not have an opportunity yet to look up these articles but I definitely plan too. There is so much professional and scientific evidence that the Ramseys did not have any part in JonBenets' rape or murder,(OR the ransom letter) that for me the matter is pretty much settled until and unless something REAL presents itself that PROOVES one or both of them did it or were involved in it;

that now I have just about reached my limit on idle speculation and he said she said and we thought and it looked like and bla bla that I've pretty much had it with 'word games' and what people "think" that has no basis of proof; which in fact, makes them all false accusations unless they can bring forth some actual PROOF. So far I haven't seen any. But I will read these posts. Maybe you have come up with some bona fide proof? TYIA!
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Glad you are feeling better Anne! Hope it continues!:)
Thank you Karma. I was beginning to think I'd never reach this point. Still have some ways to go, but definitely starting to feel better!
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Vic wrote:
Hey Eye,
I've been trying to post but darn keyboard keys keep sticking or stops completely. I so enjoy reading your posts. Your right we've got to keep these evil monsters away,but its hard cause they're very sneaky. My sister's adopted daughter's bi-father has been trying to contact her. He was in prison for along time cause he raped her biomom when she was just fourteen. My sister closely moniters computer but my niece is seventeen now and like your GD, she has a mind of her own. I can't say anything about DIL cause she runs to her lawyer and its brought out in court. I could care less but that means son loses work time and since she's got a cheapo lawyer and son has an expensive one, it gets rather expensive. All we can do is take it one day at a time, pray for strength and never give up.xoxoxox
Vic, here's what I do when the keyboard sticks: Unplug it, turn it upside down and bang it fairly hard a few times on the desk top. Be sure to put some paper down first as lots of crumbs and stuff will fall out. If you find that one or two keys falls off, just push them back in place.

Also, if you find that one or two keys are still stuck a little, use your hand-held hair-dryer-blower over the keys on high air back and forth for a few minutes over all of the keys. You will need to bang/dump all the lose stuff out of the keyboard first, then do it again after you use the hot air. Presto. That'll do 'er. You will be surprised at how much stuff is under those keys!

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