Fugitive in porn case deported by Thailand

A former Orange County man who fled the country four years ago while facing trial on child--pornography charges has been caught in Thailand, investigators announced Monday. Full Story
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Former teacher

Cardiff, UK

#4 Feb 27, 2008
As a former teacher at the school I am so happy to hear from 'shocked colleague' that both Eric and Paul were let go by the school after having false degrees. These students deserve better! I am, however, disappointed that other members like Bill Swanger (who looks more like a paedophile than James) and with a criminal record and fake masters (on a higher salary than the other teachers because of possessing a masters,albeit a fake one) is still teaching at the school. He has a history of abuse and isn't fit to teach such dedicated, hardworking and pleasant students that the school is fortunate to have. The school does have lot's of hardworking and dedicated teachers and staff who are determined to offer the best teaching service that these fine students deserve. It's just a shame that they have to put up with working with the other losers. James, Eric, Paul and Bill are all sad, pathetic human beings. I'm so sorry for the students and staff who have had to put up with them. At least they won't have to for three of them anymore. thank goodness that we have Curt who has dedicated much of his time to get rid of these losers!! And well done to the Thai's for waking up.
Shocked Colleague

Mexico, Mexico

#5 Feb 27, 2008
Sorry, Bill was fired not Eric. Shortly after James was arrested, the Thai admin. finally decided having a convicted felon on staff (which they knew for more than a year) was no longer a good idea. Bill Swangerīs felonies were for assault and several other crimes, but there is no evidence he is a pedophile.

Hopefully Eric will be next to go and then the others can get back to what they are there to do - teach. Sadly, the pedophileīs wife, who based on reports clearly knew about his actions and helped him flee (she sold their house three weeks after he got to Thailand and followed him there) has not been charged and is still teaching at the school as well. I wouldnīt put the woman away for life, but I certainly she should be deported and charged with aiding and abetting and face some jail time.
Former teacher wrote:
As a former teacher at the school I am so happy to hear from 'shocked colleague' that both Eric and Paul were let go by the school after having false degrees. These students deserve better! I am, however, disappointed that other members like Bill Swanger (who looks more like a paedophile than James) and with a criminal record and fake masters (on a higher salary than the other teachers because of possessing a masters,albeit a fake one) is still teaching at the school. He has a history of abuse and isn't fit to teach such dedicated, hardworking and pleasant students that the school is fortunate to have. The school does have lot's of hardworking and dedicated teachers and staff who are determined to offer the best teaching service that these fine students deserve. It's just a shame that they have to put up with working with the other losers. James, Eric, Paul and Bill are all sad, pathetic human beings. I'm so sorry for the students and staff who have had to put up with them. At least they won't have to for three of them anymore. thank goodness that we have Curt who has dedicated much of his time to get rid of these losers!! And well done to the Thai's for waking up.
Maxfield

Orlando, FL

#6 Feb 27, 2008
Good lord, it sounds like Peyton Place. Who has time to teach what with the sex crimes and DUI's.
Curt Crossley

Mexico, Mexico

#8 Feb 27, 2008
Well now time to get things straight. This program was, for a long time, one of my proudest accomplishments - and I will admit wrongly so. I was stupid, I was duped. In a sea of shity English Programs I thought we were better...I was wrong.
We were different, and we were trying to be better, but we never succeeded because in Thaland it is nearly impossible for a government school or even mnany private schools to hire honest, decent teachers. We did some great things, and we clearly made some huge mistakes. Many of the mistakes were mine. I wish I hadnīt trusted people so much. I never thought people like Eric, Bill, and Paul would lie repeatedly to my face, in interviews, and sign documents attesting to the legitimacy of their degrees when they were fakes.
I certainly never suspected James Betts and his homely home econ teacher wife were conspiring to cover up such an awful crime, or alleged crime.
Sure, I knew most of the white folks in their 40īs and 50īs ended up in Thailand coz they were down and out, but I did not believe people would lie so that they could be teachers in a foreign land. What I failed to understand is they all were looking for an income and legitimacy, and they had to lie to get it. They couldnīt make it at home, so they fled, and as a good Thai friend says, founf Thailand...teh land of last resort for washed up westerners. I hired more than my fair share, I was duped, and I take the blame.
Desturction was never the goal, honest teachers was. When I left (yes after being begged to stay three times and given raises each time because I was one of the handful of honest teachers there and someone who had made a real contribution), I was determined to make sure the school knew who had lied to me about their degrees. Thankfully, most of those who did are now gone. One left...and heīll be out soon.
I am sad that this program fails the kids and parents who pay so much for it. I am sad to know so many liars and cheats and to have been responsible for giving them work. I am sad to have my name associated with this program I was was so stupid to think could be something different. I learned a great deal from it all though, and I have moved on and done fine. I hope the liars and cheaters and all those who are ripping off little Thai kids and their families at this school will also move on, and find a job that they deserve and are qualified for, and that they donīt have to lie to get.
As for James, we know what happens to people like this when they get into prison, they donīt last long. That is fine by me, if the allegations are proven true.
Curt Crossley

Mexico, Mexico

#9 Feb 27, 2008
And by the way, asking for $1500 US dollars a month (an increase of $100 over my last salary there) was certainly not blackmail. 18,000 dollars a year in salary is far from anything to be blackmailing people for.

Incidentally, they offered immediately when I last said I was leaving to pay the higher salary, but they would not meet other conditions of staying, which included raises for all of the teachers I would hire to be able to attract real teachers, two new administrative positions, no teaching load so I could manage these 25 teachers and now so many who are exposed as liars, some budget control so we didnīt spend thousands on fancy electronic white boards when we could spend it on better things.
Curt Crossley

Mexico, Mexico

#10 Feb 27, 2008
And one other thing...Robert was the only teacher there to admit he had a fake degree, and in Thailand this is about as common as a robin in spring. He admitted it and offered to leave, and the school said no...they need competent teachers badly and theya ppreciated his honesty. None of the others with the fake credentials are either competent or honest. That is the problem...and they are just there to take home a check not make a positive difference in kids lives.
Curt Crossley

Mexico, Mexico

#11 Feb 28, 2008
And why donīt the guys who have such an issue with me have the courage to use their names rather than hide behind some nickname for anonymity?
Josef

Cardiff, UK

#12 Feb 29, 2008
i am pleased to hear that Bill has finally been fired. His lack of commitment, teaching tecnqiues and attitude should have got him fired a long time ago, but at least it is done. Thanks for clearing that up Curt.
In reagards to Robert. I was a good friend to Rob for a long period of time when I was teaching ta the school and I've always admired him for his dedication to the students where he was always looking to improve and get better and better as a teacher.I admired his forwardness and enjoyed hi shumour veyr much. When I found out he had a fake degree which he told me over a golf driving range, I was at first confused and though like many that he was a hypocrit. These initial thoughts were wrong. What I learnt was that he would put his job on the line to make sure the studnets are getting the best service from teachers with real degrees but there was never a chance that he would get fired. Thai culture is about respect and Robert is highly respected by those who work with him. he simply wants to be professional and who cares if he has a fake degree when he is such a good teacher for these kids, puts everything into teaching and the school. If Eric, Bill, Paul ad the others with fake degrees were as highly dedicate dto the kids as Rob was then there fake degrees should be should be forgotten and let them go on with their jobs. The fact is that they aren't committed teacher sand simply go in to get their money and leave for the day. I feel sorry for these types of peopel who have no drive and humanity in them. I'm happy I'm not like that, and have friends who are not like that.
I remember one day at school, walking to class, after just pasing the offcie and I stopped and looked at the pictures of the teachers for a moment. I laughed to myself and thought it was so funny with their names and qualifications which most were fake. The school is advertising these fake degrees which I think is wrong. Instead the teachers should be put on teacher training courses to get qualification which can be put on this board instead. I just thought it was so funny and ridulous with the amount of names with fake qualifications. Stop the lies, have the decency to be direct, honest and open and the world will be a lot fairer place for everyone (don't mean to sound corny but seriously).
Lastly I would liek to say of how much I miss Potisarn, teh studnets 9who I keep in regular contact with ) the teachers (the good ones) and teh thai staff. I had a great experience there and look forward to going back ther eto vist the next time I come.
Dave

Bangkok, Thailand

#13 Mar 1, 2008
googling "james betts" would have brought police to the Potisarn website with James' picture on it as well as detailed instructions on how to get to the school -
Dave

Bangkok, Thailand

#14 Mar 1, 2008
took someone 30 minutes to find james on google search - page 72
Curt Crossley

Mexico, Mexico

#17 Jun 27, 2008
Never backed away from direct confrontation No Name. Bring it on. When I am right I am right. When I am wrong, I will admit in and try to learn from it.
Confused

Garza García, Mexico

#24 Aug 21, 2008
no this is not curt. does he have a criminal record (that i can see on-line?)
i am confused because it's strange to hear accusations like these about someone who works at a school. i am guessing that he does not have a criminal record or the school he works for is not aware of his record if it exists.
Time will tell

Colombia

#29 Sep 3, 2008
If you are working in Pachuca at ASP I think you'll find out very soon what Curt is about. He's human slime and you should have zero contact with him. Just talk to anyone who has been at the school more than two years.
Jon

Mexico, Mexico

#30 Sep 5, 2008
A Victim wrote:
Hi Confused, or should I say Curt...
"A Witness" figured it out - I'm one of YOUR victims. You know your secrets - your secret of molesting kids - and I'm one you molested. The good news? You have no power over me, so "bring it on"...
I would suggest you don't come back to the US - you never know who might be waiting for you at the airport...
My guess is that you have victims all over the place, but I'm just one that's big enough to say something about it.
This article was about a teacher who was hired by a school Curt worked at named Mr. James Betts. There is no substance or truth to other allegations. Unfortunately, teachers who have been fired by Curt seem to try to find ways to attack with lies and misinformation.
Jon

Mexico, Mexico

#31 Sep 5, 2008
The scary thing is that I or anyone else can accuse anyone of anything like this just to try to get back at them for something they are pissed about. The articles about James Betts and his pedophilia corroborate what he did. There is absolutely nothing to corroborate what is being said about anyone else. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. People who have been fired by Curt because it was the right thing to do (and there are quite a few) can have a field day making things up but the truth is that there is absolutely nothing to any of it.
Cathy

Mexico, Mexico

#32 Sep 5, 2008
Looks like a bunch of bile and venom from people the vice principal had to go after for failing in their responsibilities....Michael, Jon, Andrea, Dermot....amazing people hold on to their anger so long. That is what usually happens when they get called out for their true faults and mistakes, rather that grow up, do better, and move on, they dwell in the past.
Cathy

Mexico, Mexico

#33 Sep 5, 2008
And reading victimīs account, you were supposedly both minors? no record? did not press charges? how convenient, hmm...even if this were the slightest bit true, it doesnīt sound anything like abuse then...
Gonetoofar

Mexico, Mexico

#36 Sep 6, 2008
This thread is completely off base and unrelated to the original news article, and has become slanderous and damaging with no substantiation whatsoever. It should be removed. This is clearly not the purpose of this forum, to allow angry and bitter people to vent publicly, but anonymously, at one another in efforts to tear one another down.
Gonetoofar

Mexico, Mexico

#38 Sep 15, 2008
A Victim:

FYI, the person you are accusing has worked in many schools and institutions all over the world including the US, and has had his record checked many times. There is no record of ANY crime, let alone what you are claiming, because the things you accuse him of are lies concoted out of your anger. You say "I am not a teacher." How do we know? You say, "I have proof." Nice try.

The person you are accusing goes back to the states regularly for work and family. He has no problem traveling in and out of the US. So you insuations otherwise are way off base.

Perhaps you were abused, by someone...probably your father or mather. Clearly this has resulted in your propensity to use a neutral web site posting service about an article completely unrelated to what you are posting about to attack and smear someone who has dedicated their life to community service and childrensī rights. He was even on the Board of UNICEF - don't you think thye check this kind of thing silly? Grow up and get on with your life...Mr. Victim.
Gonetoofar

Mexico, Mexico

#39 Sep 15, 2008
Funnily enough, there is now another former fired teacher in TN, where a hallucinating victim writes from. How convenient...

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