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There are 63619 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Love the facts

Chatsworth, CA

#48580 Jul 5, 2014
Ice Scientist wrote:
This should make the warmies a bit less nervous about the future.
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Global warming computer models confounded as Antarctic sea ice hits new record high with 2.1million square miles more than is usual for time of year
Ice is covering 16million sq km, more than 2.1 million more than is usual for time of year
UN computer models on which scientists base projections say Antarctic ice should be in decline, not increasing
Great post!

Level 1

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#48581 Jul 5, 2014
Love the facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post!
Science moves on; denial doesn't.

Much attention is paid to melting sea ice
in the Arctic. But less clear is the
situation on the other side of the planet.
Despite warmer air and oceans, theres
more sea ice in Antarctica now than in
the 1970s a fact often pounced on by
global warming skeptics. The latest
numbers suggest the Antarctic sea ice
may be heading toward a record high
this year.
While changes in weather may play a big
role in short-term changes in sea ice
seen in the past couple of months,
changes in winds have apparently led to
the more general upward sea ice trend
during the past few decades, according
to University of Washington research. A
new modeling study to be published in
the Journal of Climate shows that
stronger polar winds lead to an increase
in Antarctic sea ice, even in a warming
climate.

http://www.washington.edu/news/2013/09/17/str...
Washington

Los Angeles, CA

#48582 Jul 5, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Science moves on; denial doesn't.
Much attention is paid to melting sea ice
in the Arctic. But less clear is the
situation on the other side of the planet.
Despite warmer air and oceans, theres
more sea ice in Antarctica now than in
the 1970s a fact often pounced on by
global warming skeptics. The latest
numbers suggest the Antarctic sea ice
may be heading toward a record high
this year.
While changes in weather may play a big
role in short-term changes in sea ice
seen in the past couple of months,
changes in winds have apparently led to
the more general upward sea ice trend
during the past few decades, according
to University of Washington research. A
new modeling study to be published in
the Journal of Climate shows that
stronger polar winds lead to an increase
in Antarctic sea ice, even in a warming
climate.
http://www.washington.edu/news/2013/09/17/str...
Don't deny the COLD hard facts.
litesong

Everett, WA

#48584 Jul 6, 2014
"NOT ice scientist" scribbled:
Antarctic sea ice hits new record high
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litesong wrote:
Of course, "NOT ice scientist" ain't no AGW scientist, or it would know AGW scientists predicted increased Antarctic sea ice in 2002, confirmed in 2005 & as sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liars continually point out, as if it wasn't an AGW scientists' prediction.
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"love lies" let out:
......great post......
//////////
litesong wrote:
Of course, "love lies" loves lies , or it would know AGW scientists predicted increased Antarctic sea ice in 2002, confirmed in 2005 & as sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liars continually point out, as if it wasn't an AGW scientists' prediction.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Level 3

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#48585 Jul 6, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
The Antarctic sea is WARMING. Didn't you know?
What, one tenth of a degree ever 80 years.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#48586 Jul 6, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>What, one tenth of a degree ever 80 years.
1: GLOBAL warming is NOT uniform. Nor needs to be.

2: the warming of antarctic ocean currents is somewhat moderated by the ice melt they cause.

3: The heat capacity of water is larger than air so changes in water temperature are more significant than air temperature.

4: You pulled that number out of your @ss anyway.

Level 1

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#48587 Jul 6, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>What, one tenth of a degree ever 80 years.
Since records began, 50 years ago, mean
annual temperatures on the Antarctic
Peninsula have risen rapidly [ Turner, et al.,
2005; Vaughan, et al., 2001; Vaughan, et al.,
2003 ]. A total increase in mean annual air
temperatures, of around 2.8 C makes this the most rapidly warming region in the Southern Hemisphere comparable to rapidly warming regions of the Arctic.

http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/bas_research/scie...

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#48588 Jul 6, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
1: GLOBAL warming is NOT uniform. Nor needs to be.
2: the warming of antarctic ocean currents is somewhat moderated by the ice melt they cause.
3: The heat capacity of water is larger than air so changes in water temperature are more significant than air temperature.
4: You pulled that number out of your @ss anyway.
Too bad you can't prove any of that

Level 1

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#48589 Jul 6, 2014
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>What, one tenth of a degree ever 80 years.
Globally from 1955 to 1995, oceans have been
warming at 0.1C per decade. In contrast, the
Southern Ocean (specifically the region where
Antarctic sea ice forms) has been warming at
0.17C per decade.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/increasing-An...

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#48590 Jul 6, 2014
I bet this guy also believes in global warming...

Physicist: Humans will not be the dominant species by 2045

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/07/p...
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48591 Jul 6, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Since records began, 50 years ago, mean
annual temperatures on the Antarctic
Peninsula have risen rapidly [ Turner, et al.,
2005; Vaughan, et al., 2001; Vaughan, et al.,
2003 ]. A total increase in mean annual air
temperatures, of around 2.8 C makes this the most rapidly warming region in the Southern Hemisphere comparable to rapidly warming regions of the Arctic.
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/bas_research/scie...
So the Antarctic Peninsula is representative of the entire Antarctic?

And as for the peninsula... whole lot of underwater volcanoes round them parts..
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/8278/201406...
http://www.livescience.com/15006-underwater-v...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/05/...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/01/22/surpris...

And as a bonus... from your site:
Press Release - First evidence of under-ice volcanic eruption in Antarctica
Issue date: 20 Jan 2008
Number: 02/2008

http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/bas_research/scie...

Check the date... every one of the references in your link occurs BEFORE this discovery, so there is no way the could account for the effect of said volcanoes.

OMG! Could melting ice be caused by natural events? Warmist will be quick not say not so... break out that rolodex!... we gotta have a study handy to "debunk" this one.

LOL

“Amor patriae.”

Level 5

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48593 Jul 6, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Creationists are glued to their delusions regardless of evidence.
Oh settled science is based on evidence, LOL.
Who said anything about creationists?
Warmers are glued to their religion regardless of documented proof of spurious evidence, common sense, and the world around them.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Level 3

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#48594 Jul 6, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
1: GLOBAL warming is NOT uniform. Nor needs to be.
2: the warming of antarctic ocean currents is somewhat moderated by the ice melt they cause.
3: The heat capacity of water is larger than air so changes in water temperature are more significant than air temperature.
4: You pulled that number out of your @ss anyway.
Ah good, I see we do use the same research source.

Level 1

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#48595 Jul 6, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
So the Antarctic Peninsula is representative of the entire Antarctic?
And as for the peninsula... whole lot of underwater volcanoes round them parts..
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/8278/201406...
http://www.livescience.com/15006-underwater-v...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/05/...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/01/22/surpris...
And as a bonus... from your site:
Press Release - First evidence of under-ice volcanic eruption in Antarctica
Issue date: 20 Jan 2008
Number: 02/2008
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/bas_research/scie...
Check the date... every one of the references in your link occurs BEFORE this discovery, so there is no way the could account for the effect of said volcanoes.
OMG! Could melting ice be caused by natural events? Warmist will be quick not say not so... break out that rolodex!... we gotta have a study handy to "debunk" this one.
LOL
I realised that as we are talking about sea ice, I should have given ocean temperature, which I then did.
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Globally from 1955 to 1995, oceans have been
warming at 0.1C per decade. In contrast, the
Southern Ocean (specifically the region where
Antarctic sea ice forms) has been warming at
0.17C per decade.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/increasing-An...
As to volcanoes and geothermal heat, they have been there for many thousands of years, as has the ice.

Just more denier straw grasping.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48596 Jul 6, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>

As to volcanoes and geothermal heat, they have been there for many thousands of years, as has the ice.
.
Really? How many? How long? Any new ones?

Don't run.. or play any of your petty word games.
litesong

Everett, WA

#48597 Jul 6, 2014
motheaten wrote:
Could melting ice be caused by natural events?
"motheaten", a sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar, has no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra & pre-calc in an excellently earned high school diploma or science & mathematics degrees to determine that Antarctic volcanic activity has increased to cause recent Antarctic warming. However, present man-made non-phase change infra-red energy absorbing GHGs, with primary & secondary feedbacks, plus phase change infra-red energy absorbing water vapor with primary & secondary feedbacks already account for Earth warming.

"motheaten" has no ability to support its sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar position.

“Amor patriae.”

Level 5

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48598 Jul 6, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
"motheaten", a sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar, has no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra & pre-calc in an excellently earned high school diploma or science & mathematics degrees to determine that Antarctic volcanic activity has increased to cause recent Antarctic warming. However, present man-made non-phase change infra-red energy absorbing GHGs, with primary & secondary feedbacks, plus phase change infra-red energy absorbing water vapor with primary & secondary feedbacks already account for Earth warming.
"motheaten" has no ability to support its sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar position.
I see you're a one trick pony.
litesong

Everett, WA

#48599 Jul 6, 2014
mudbuilder wrote:
I see you're a one trick pony.
I see you're a no trick, sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar, having no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra & pre-calc in an excellently earned high school diploma or science & mathematics degrees.

“Amor patriae.”

Level 5

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48600 Jul 6, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
I see you're a no trick, sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar, having no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra & pre-calc in an excellently earned high school diploma or science & mathematics degrees.
I see you failed English too.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48601 Jul 6, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>To a denier:

I see you're a no trick, sleepy sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar, having no science chemistry astronomy physics algebra & pre-calc in an excellently earned high school diploma or science & mathematics degrees.
Superlative posting.

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