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Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 63930 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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#43576 Feb 14, 2014
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1637594/...
40 "U.S. National Renewable Energy Laboratory”. February 6th 2007
41 http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/winds/glob...
42 http://www.bwea.com/marine/resource.html
43Future Energy Solutions / IEA report, 2003
44World Consumption of Primary Energy by Energy Type and Selected Country Groups , 1980-2004, Energy Information
Administration, U.S. Department of Energy
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#43577 Feb 14, 2014
inbred Genius wrote:
I cant take much more of this global warming, I'm moving South, it's freezing here.
We can't hide my friend, even the south, is experiencing the cold winters( not as cold as us, its only -7 here), and extreme drought conditions in the summer.
SpaceBlues

United States

#43578 Feb 14, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> Energy is the cornerstone of society today. It is one of the most critical factors to all social
functionality. The availability of renewable energy resources must first be accessed before anything else. Luckily, the results are staggeringly positive. By the early 21st century, a sea of renewable energy sources have been coming to the surface, many with extreme potential, far exceeding the requirements of the current human population. The age of Oil and fossil fuels, along with all the resulting pollution, is coming to a close. There is no reason to burn fossil fuels at all anymore, other than the profit oriented, vested interest which keeps new energy prospects at bay. Remember, the last thing the Energy Industry wants is abundance , for that translates into a loss of profits in the monetary system.
Now, one of the most important energy sources to recognize today is Geothermal Power .
A 2006 MIT report on geothermal energy found that 13,000 zettajoules of power are currently
available in the earth, with the possibility of 2000 zettajoules being easily tap-able with improved technology.36 The total energy consumption of all the countries on the planet is about half of a zettajoule a year37, this means about 4000 years of planetary power could be harnessed in this medium alone. And when we understand that the earth’s heat generation is constantly renewed, this energy is really limitless and could be used forever.
I second that. Forever is a long time. hahaha

Thanks for being here.
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#43579 Feb 14, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>I second that. Forever is a long time. hahaha
Thanks for being here.
Thank you , my friend. The possibility's for mankind are almost limitless, given the science and technology we do have today. As a whole we just have to prioritize what is most beneficial, to all mankind and our planet. Global warming is a fact, regardless, of political affiliation , or whos to blame.Com mon sense would tell us , we should act upon the knowledge we do have, and implement better policy. Take care , for now I gtg
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#43581 Feb 14, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> Thank you , my friend. The possibility's for mankind are almost limitless, given the science and technology we do have today. As a whole we just have to prioritize what is most beneficial, to all mankind and our planet. Global warming is a fact, regardless, of political affiliation , or whos to blame.Com mon sense would tell us , we should act upon the knowledge we do have, and implement better policy. Take care , for now I gtg
Executive order.there's your better policy. King Hussein is here to save the day.
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#43582 Feb 14, 2014
Truth Facts wrote:
<quoted text>Executive order.there's your better policy. King Hussein is here to save the day.
"I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be an emperor. That’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone if possible- of all creeds and cultures

We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each others’ happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.

Greed has poisoned men’s souls; has barricaded the world with hate; has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind.

We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery ,we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in man; cries out for universal brotherhood; for the unity of us all.

Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people.

To those who can hear me, I say “Do not despair.”

The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.

Soldiers! Don’t give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you and enslave you; who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think and what to feel! Who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder!

Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men—machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have a love of humanity in your hearts! You don’t hate!

Only the unloved hate; the unloved and the unnatural.

Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty!

In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it’s written “the kingdom of God is within man”, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power.

Let us all unite.

Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill their promise. They never will!

Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people!

Now let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world! To do away with national barriers! To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance!

Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness.

Soldiers, in the name of democracy, let us all unite"!

Charlie Chaplin's final speech in The Great Dictator

Take care and thanks for all the fish
SpaceBlues

Dallas, TX

#43583 Feb 14, 2014
So Long and Thanks for all the Fish

gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#43584 Feb 15, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> We can't hide my friend, even the south, is experiencing the cold winters( not as cold as us, its only -7 here), and extreme drought conditions in the summer.
In researching my own neck of the woods, I can see why there's a lot of skepticism about global warming here (other than the general ignorance and conservatism {but I repeat myself}).

According to most of the graphs and charts I've seen, Mississippi and Alabama have changed the least of all the states, even being slightly cooler over the past century than the rest of the country. That's the average, meaning while we may have had some record heat spells, we've also had record cold spells. Precipitation, too, has not changed that much.

As we are a small part of the country, there is not much that is specific. I can't find definite proof that we have had higher highs and lower lows than normal, but subjectively, it seems like we have. I can't remember times when I was younger when the thermometer dipped down to 13, 15, 18 degrees for a few nights, but ut seems like it has happened more lately. The same with highs; I can't remember having 90 degree days in March like we had 2 years ago.

Al and Maggie said it best when they suggested that one symptom of climate change and global warming would be global weirding, or weather weirding. It just gets weird! Like a 90 degree day here in March and having to wear a jacket in July in Chicago last year.
Pat

Fullerton, CA

#43586 Feb 15, 2014
So you global warming fans, what kind of weather pattern for a year (or 5 years) would start to convince you that global warming is maybe not real?

Is the answer---> there is no conceivable weather pattern for 1 year or 5 years that would sway me even a little. My beliefs are set. The science is settled.

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#43587 Feb 15, 2014
Pat wrote:
So you global warming fans, what kind of weather pattern for a year (or 5 years) would start to convince you that global warming is maybe not real?
Is the answer---> there is no conceivable weather pattern for 1 year or 5 years that would sway me even a little. My beliefs are set. The science is settled.
Deniers engage political filters when climate change is discussed. Therefore half the facts are dismissed before anyone makes a statement on it. A normal rational thinking person would suggest something's out of whack when you have weather headlines almost daily now.
England is getting swamped by water in another weather pattern sitting beside the US one bringing freezing conditions and tonnes of snow. California is fast running out of water, this is part of US which produces almost half of America's food bowl. The southern hemisphere is getting week in week out heatwaves and all the wild fires that come with that. Yet a denier has to keep telling themselves this all normal no matter how the frequency increases or the intensity of it.
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#43588 Feb 15, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
In researching my own neck of the woods, I can see why there's a lot of skepticism about global warming here (other than the general ignorance and conservatism {but I repeat myself}).
According to most of the graphs and charts I've seen, Mississippi and Alabama have changed the least of all the states, even being slightly cooler over the past century than the rest of the country. That's the average, meaning while we may have had some record heat spells, we've also had record cold spells. Precipitation, too, has not changed that much.
As we are a small part of the country, there is not much that is specific. I can't find definite proof that we have had higher highs and lower lows than normal, but subjectively, it seems like we have. I can't remember times when I was younger when the thermometer dipped down to 13, 15, 18 degrees for a few nights, but ut seems like it has happened more lately. The same with highs; I can't remember having 90 degree days in March like we had 2 years ago.
Al and Maggie said it best when they suggested that one symptom of climate change and global warming would be global weirding, or weather weirding. It just gets weird! Like a 90 degree day here in March and having to wear a jacket in July in Chicago last year.
My geography is somewhat the same as we live in a valley, so our local weather is somewhat neutralized. But Our winters are longer,more snow,colder longer days. But globally especially the fact polar and glacier ice is melting, the effects of costal cities is quite apparent. In the 350yrs of record keeping London England has not recorded the amount of rain in such a short period , as they have had for the last 3 months. Thousands actually have died in recent ys due to colder winters and warmer summers throughout Europe..The recent snowfall in Atlanta ,Texas, California. Thing is should we not adjust our infrastructure to better deal with the changes.
http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/cri...

Heres another good tool for measurement we don't often hear about anymore, I remember as a kid, it being part of our local news cast, back when media was a public service, lol.And local agriculture and beef and dairy farming was local.
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#43589 Feb 15, 2014
http://www.almanac.com/
this is meant to go with last post.
Pat

Fullerton, CA

#43590 Feb 15, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Deniers engage political filters when climate change is discussed. Therefore half the facts are dismissed before anyone makes a statement on it. A normal rational thinking person would suggest something's out of whack when you have weather headlines almost daily now.
England is getting swamped by water in another weather pattern sitting beside the US one bringing freezing conditions and tonnes of snow. California is fast running out of water, this is part of US which produces almost half of America's food bowl. The southern hemisphere is getting week in week out heatwaves and all the wild fires that come with that. Yet a denier has to keep telling themselves this all normal no matter how the frequency increases or the intensity of it.
So you would like to see us go back to a time when California drought and US freezing are not headlines? Stay tuned. Maybe next year there will be no California drought or a massive freezing conditions in the southeast.

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#43592 Feb 15, 2014
Don't hold your breath on this with Republicans giving it their stamp of approval.

"Obama is expected to release his proposed 2015 budget in early March. The prospects for the climate fund are uncertain in a Republican-controlled House. But Obama, who made preparation for climate change one of the major themes of the climate action plan he released in June, will continue to press for the need to adapt, according to the White House."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-...

In Britain, the same crap different day with conservative thinking.

"After years avoiding what used to be his trademark issue, David Cameron has now twice voiced his strong suspicion of a link with climate change, most recently in a passionately delivered peroration at Tuesday’s press conference. Junior environment minister Dan Rogerson, standing in for the more sceptical Owen Paterson, agreed on Thursday that global warming was to blame. And Lib Dem Energy Secretary Ed Davey accused some Conservatives of “parroting the arguments of the most discredited climate change deniers”– only for his deputy, Michael Fallon, to hit back by denouncing “unthinking climate change worship”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/106...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#43593 Feb 16, 2014
Lighten up!

Lucille Ball was a communist, and America survived that!
Professor Emeritus Fellow

Corona Del Mar, CA

#43594 Feb 16, 2014
More climate change proof!

Fact: Worst since 1994 !

Fact: Heaviest snow in Tokyo in 45 years !

You can't deny the facts.

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A snowstorm on the eastern coastline of Japan turned deadly over the weekend as heavy snowfall killed 11 and injured more than a thousand. Areas that don’t usually see this kind of weather received the heaviest snowfall recorded from a storm since January 1994, according to the Japan Meteorological Agency.

Tokyo received as much as 10.6 inches of snowfall, something that is rare due to the looming peak of Mount Fuji west of the city which blocks incoming snow and the heaviest to hit the city in 45 years. The city of Matsumoto in Honshu received the heaviest snowfall at 19.2 inches. Local media reports that at least 11 people have been killed due to several snow-related accidents, mostly those involving cars driving through icy roads. Various reports have also said around 1,250 have been injured due to snow-related incidents, many due to slipping on the ground or falling after attempting to shovel snow from their roofs.

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"the green troll"

#43595 Feb 16, 2014
Professor Emeritus Fellow wrote:
More climate change proof!
Fact: Worst since 1994 !
Fact: Heaviest snow in Tokyo in 45 years !
You can't deny the facts.
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A snowstorm on the eastern coastline of Japan turned deadly over the weekend as heavy snowfall killed 11 and injured more than a thousand. Areas that don’t usually see this kind of weather received the heaviest snowfall recorded from a storm since January 1994, according to the Japan Meteorological Agency.
Tokyo received as much as 10.6 inches of snowfall, something that is rare due to the looming peak of Mount Fuji west of the city which blocks incoming snow and the heaviest to hit the city in 45 years. The city of Matsumoto in Honshu received the heaviest snowfall at 19.2 inches. Local media reports that at least 11 people have been killed due to several snow-related accidents, mostly those involving cars driving through icy roads. Various reports have also said around 1,250 have been injured due to snow-related incidents, many due to slipping on the ground or falling after attempting to shovel snow from their roofs.
Fact: more heat = more evaporation = more precipitation.

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#43596 Feb 16, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact: more heat = more evaporation = more precipitation.
Unfortunately the deniers can NEVER make that connection. They just don't get it! so we continually see all these inane posts about how cold it is in one place or another. Regardless of the fact the whole point of the global warming message is about extreme weather and the toll it will make on everyone's life.

“BET DAP”

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GOOM BOWN

#43597 Feb 16, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Deniers engage political filters when climate change is discussed. Therefore half the facts are dismissed before anyone makes a statement on it. A normal rational thinking person would suggest something's out of whack when you have weather headlines almost daily now.
England is getting swamped by water in another weather pattern sitting beside the US one bringing freezing conditions and tonnes of snow. California is fast running out of water, this is part of US which produces almost half of America's food bowl. The southern hemisphere is getting week in week out heatwaves and all the wild fires that come with that. Yet a denier has to keep telling themselves this all normal no matter how the frequency increases or the intensity of it.
Extreme weather events are ever present. There's been no systematic change found in that FACT.

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"the green troll"

#43598 Feb 16, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>Extreme weather events are ever present. There's been no systematic change found in that FACT.
LIE.
Here we show that human-induced increases in greenhouse gases have contributed to the observed intensification of heavy precipitation events found over approximately two-thirds of data-covered parts of Northern Hemisphere land areas.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v470/n73...
The precise magnitude of the anthropogenic contribution remains uncertain, but in nine out of ten cases our model results indicate that twentieth-century anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions increased the risk of floods occurring in England and Wales in autumn 2000 by more than 20%, and in two out of three cases by more than 90%.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v470/n73...

But then deniers are liars.

They are also stupid liars.

England is currently suffering terrible floods after the wettest weather for almost 250 years.

How many 1 in 100 year, or 1 in 200 year floods happening year after year does it take for deniers to realise that something is going on, and that their stupid lies are not going to be believed any more?

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