Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 62339 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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#33156 Dec 19, 2012
Plain Jane wrote:
For the non-readers here, global warming causes extreme weather. It gets hotter in some places and much colder in others. The Gulf stream is slowing due to the cold fresh water being dumped by glacier melt and we are losing it's warming effects on the eastern seaboard of the US and the west coasts of Britain and Europe. Scoff all you like. You are only showing your complete lack of literacy on the issue.
I concur. That is why there has been a shift toward calling it "Global Climate Change." The term "Global Warming" is vastly misunderstood by the general populace. Yet we see its effects across the globe, and they will only intensify because the effects are synergistic. Anyone who owns property in coastal regions should be VERY concerned. In another 100 years, or perhaps sooner, Florida and Texas will be gone.

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#33157 Dec 19, 2012
Fair Game wrote:
An attempt by climate sceptics to hijack the latest UN report on global warming by selectively leaking claims that it is caused by sunspots rather than man-made emissions of carbon dioxide has backfired.
Sceptics described the forthcoming report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) as a “game changer” because of its apparent support for the controversial theory that solar activity, interacting with cosmic rays from deep space, can explain global warming.
Alec Rawls, a Republican blogger in the United States who signed himself up as an expert IPCC reviewer, decided to leak the panel’s Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) on the grounds that it is a taxpayer-funded document.
Mr Rawls claimed the report suggests that the IPCC has finally come round to the idea that solar activity – sunspots – is partly responsible for the observed global temperatures rise seen over the past half century.
However, climate scientists pointed out that Mr Rawls has selectively quoted from the draft report and has ignored other parts of the document stating that solar activity and cosmic rays cannot explain the increase in global temperatures seen over the past half century, as sceptics have repeatedly claimed.
The AR5 draft report states that although there is “some evidence” that solar activity combined with cosmic rays may influence the formation of clouds, and therefore temperatures, but the phenomenon is “too weak” to influence the climate in any significant way.
The other major problem with the sunspots idea is that solar activity has largely flat-lined over the past 50 years, whereas average global temperatures have continued to rise, the IPCC report says.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/clim...
An excellent post. Thank you.
Rahm Jizzbucket Emanuel

Oswego, IL

#33158 Dec 19, 2012
For the love of GOD, can't we at least save the polar bears! We need an immediate evac from their current warming habitat. They should be interned with big govt democrats who will love them and feed them and make them their friend!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33159 Dec 19, 2012
More copy and paste. No real eveidence.
Northie

Spokane, WA

#33160 Dec 19, 2012
Rahm Jizzbucket Emanuel wrote:
For the love of GOD, can't we at least save the polar bears! We need an immediate evac from their current warming habitat. They should be interned with big govt democrats who will love them and feed them and make them their friend!
Let's start by saving the millions of PEOPLE now killed by climate change, and the many millions more endangered in future decades

From this year's DARA study: "Global climate change and pollution from the use of fossil fuels killed nearly 5 million people around the world in 2010...Total global costs, which were estimated at more than $600 billion in 2010, are expected to rise to $4.35 trillion by 2030."

http://247wallst.com/2012/10/01/countries-whe... .

But to you, even those deaths are a big joke, right?
Teddy R

San Francisco, CA

#33161 Dec 19, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Hay when you respond your not ignoring. Sorry you’re another one that attended the one child left behind program. So that would again make you the commander TROLL!!
Troll. Ignored.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#33162 Dec 19, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Valid contenders, though I would rank-order them quite differently. The Sino-Japanese Wars certainly have to place Japan as the #1 foreign influence on China, I think. Japanese humiliation of the Qing Dynasty in the First Sino-Japanese War led directly to the 1911 revolution in China - and having some 20 million or more of your population massacred by a foreign invader (as China did in the Second Sino-Japanese War) certainly has to be regarded as a foreign influence with lasting consequences - as we are seeing today ...
England? I suppose - three Opium Wars must count for something as an influence.
You've left out France and Germany, however. They are as deserving of a place on the list as your others.
And the US? Trivial, really - the US would be on any nations list of primary foreign influences. We've certainly been China's biggest sucker of a rich sweet-heart sugar-daddy rube, being ripped off by both Chiang Kai Shek's Nationalist crooks and the current mob of bandits.
You must be an expert on French and German relations to mention them under a China framework. How so? I don't see what you picture.

Also, the now-defunk USSR hits the top three because of the 20th century... even though the situation was prepared by the English et al.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#33163 Dec 19, 2012
Northie wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's start by saving the millions of PEOPLE now killed by climate change, and the many millions more endangered in future decades
From this year's DARA study: "Global climate change and pollution from the use of fossil fuels killed nearly 5 million people around the world in 2010...Total global costs, which were estimated at more than $600 billion in 2010, are expected to rise to $4.35 trillion by 2030."
http://247wallst.com/2012/10/01/countries-whe... .
?
I'm surprised the Philippines, with a population of more than 92 million people and the seventh most populated Asian country, is not mentioned.

From the recent news:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/10/world/asia/phil...
Teddy R

San Francisco, CA

#33164 Dec 19, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You must be an expert on French and German relations to mention them under a China framework. How so? I don't see what you picture.
Also, the now-defunk USSR hits the top three because of the 20th century... even though the situation was prepared by the English et al.
Germany had major trade initiatives in China in the mid-19th century. Taught them brewing. Major Chinese brewing export industry out of Tsingtao (Carlsberg) dates back to this period.

And, of course the French were there right along with the Brits when the Western Powers marched on Beijing in the 2nd Opium War and destroyed the Old Summer Palace in a punitive act - an entire army burning, looting, and smashing as much as they could of 3 millenia of accumulated imperial wealth for 3 days, and they still couldn't destroy it all.

That's a foreign influence that lingers to this day in China as well.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33165 Dec 19, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Troll. Ignored.
Hay when you respond your not ignoring. Sorry you’re another one that attended the one child left behind program. So that would again make you the commander TROLL!!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#33166 Dec 19, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Germany had major trade initiatives in China in the mid-19th century. Taught them brewing. Major Chinese brewing export industry out of Tsingtao (Carlsberg) dates back to this period.
And, of course the French were there right along with the Brits when the Western Powers marched on Beijing in the 2nd Opium War and destroyed the Old Summer Palace in a punitive act - an entire army burning, looting, and smashing as much as they could of 3 millenia of accumulated imperial wealth for 3 days, and they still couldn't destroy it all.
That's a foreign influence that lingers to this day in China as well.
Thanks for the reply.[I should catch up on those.]

And at that time foreigners were not raiding others' oil fields... yet.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33167 Dec 19, 2012
Global cooling moving in fast, warm up your snow blower.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Level 1

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#33169 Dec 19, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>The ones with that mathematics & science courses and graduates with degrees failed American Ind. and the Banking system.
Which were failed by universities who were suppose to teach them what they needed to know and instead taught them things that were not true. They taught to fit an agenda, to fit a belief that all capitalism is bad and that government is the answer. I see the people your talking about and they rarely understand what they really need to know to be successful and how the system really works.

Then again, many the professor teaching them about industry and banking would be failures if they tried to put into practice what they teach.
litesong

Everett, WA

#33170 Dec 19, 2012
[QUOTE who="lit'le Jizz"]They should be interned with big govt democrats......[/QUOTE]

..... a small minority re-pubic-lick-un that got over his loss & cry, now returning to his old egotistic belief that he is what america wants.
litesong

Everett, WA

#33171 Dec 19, 2012
phdudd wrote:
Global cooling moving in fast, warm up your snow blower.
From NOAA:
Contiguous U.S. warmer and drier than average for November, autumn; 2012 virtually certain to be warmest year on record
Thu, 06 Dec 2012
According to NOAA scientists, the average temperature for the contiguous United States during November was 44.1°F (2.1°F above the 20th century average), tying 2004 as the 20th warmest November on record. The period of January-November was the warmest first 11 months of any year on record for the contiguous United States.- read more »
Pierre

Los Angeles, CA

#33172 Dec 20, 2012
DillinghamLawFirm wrote:
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I concur. That is why there has been a shift toward calling it "Global Climate Change." The term "Global Warming" is vastly misunderstood by the general populace. Yet we see its effects across the globe, and they will only intensify because the effects are synergistic. Anyone who owns property in coastal regions should be VERY concerned. In another 100 years, or perhaps sooner, Florida and Texas will be gone.
The world ends in 2 days!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33173 Dec 20, 2012
tina anne wrote:
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Which were failed by universities who were suppose to teach them what they needed to know and instead taught them things that were not true. They taught to fit an agenda, to fit a belief that all capitalism is bad and that government is the answer. I see the people your talking about and they rarely understand what they really need to know to be successful and how the system really works.
Then again, many the professor teaching them about industry and banking would be failures if they tried to put into practice what they teach.
Well you are correct (I bet you never would say I would make that statement) But it's all about the money and toss in the sports thing they do well. Now that you recognize the issue you should be able to see your higher education short falls. Maybe you should start at a higher level with your education. That Pre K level thing would be a waste of time.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#33174 Dec 20, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
From NOAA:
Contiguous U.S. warmer and drier than average for November, autumn; 2012 virtually certain to be warmest year on record
Thu, 06 Dec 2012
According to NOAA scientists, the average temperature for the contiguous United States during November was 44.1°F (2.1°F above the 20th century average), tying 2004 as the 20th warmest November on record. The period of January-November was the warmest first 11 months of any year on record for the contiguous United States.- read more »
From the touch and see method it happens globally some years more some less. So when they didn't keep records how warm, cool were the average temps? AHH the wonders of global climate cycles.
Teddy R

San Francisco, CA

#33175 Dec 20, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Hay when you respond your not ignoring. Sorry you’re another one that attended the one child left behind program. So that would again make you the commander TROLL!!
Troll. Ignored.
Teddy R

San Francisco, CA

#33176 Dec 20, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the reply.[I should catch up on those.]
And at that time foreigners were not raiding others' oil fields... yet.
Nope. Narcotic drugs rather than oil was the stock-in-trade. Poppy fields rather than oil fields. Swire. Jardine. Matheson. Massive fortunes amassed in trading opium (and, yes - tea, silk, and other commodities).

All the hand-wringing and wailing by the oil-obsessed today fades to a yawner when viewed in an historical context. We've seen wars fought and cultures destroyed over gold, silver, diamonds, opium, pot, cocaine ... today some say it's oil, tomorrow it'll be something else.

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