Man Charged In DUI Crash That Killed Girlfriend

An accident is something unexpected. Driving drunk after you were all ready home, driving drunk on New Years eve at 3:30 am , odds were , he was going to. So that was not unexpected but expected. RIP Jessica

pray for the families

But then again, i understand she called him. Couldn't she tell he was drunk? Such poor judgement. Many families in pain.

Put him away

So little accountability now-a-days. He made the decision to drink. He made the decision to drive after drinking. The accident was his fault. He made really bad decisions and he should pay for this for the rest of his life. The girl is not to blame for this. Her judgment for getting into the vehicle with him could be questioned, but it is moot when looking at the big picture.

Hopefully this spoiled rich kid doesn't get out of this with the help of his rich daddy.

Rick from Oak Forest

Judged:

Put him away

"The girl is not to blame for this."

Oh yes she is!

She got in the car with the guy even though he was three sheets to the wind.

She doesn't get in the car with him and she's alive today.

That's a simple FACT.

Also ... she didn't put on her seat belt either.

So it would seem pretty obvious to smart people that she played a pretty big hand in her own demise.

Enough with the "poor innocent victim" schtick ..

Put the blame where it belongs ... on them BOTH.

pray for the families

Judged:

Excellent Post Rick of OF. They like many of the young adults , they think they are invincible. They both had really poor judgement. They are both to blame. In my opinion, jail time can't be long enough. Her family will cry forever.

Lauren

Downers Grove, IL

rick... wow what do you even say to a rude person like you.

jpp

Tinley Park, IL

wow!!! how about innocent till proven guilty, i heard the kid wasn't the one driving,how about that??? losers!!!!!!!

pray for the families

88 votes agreed with Rick. 84 didn't. Thats almost 50-50. Thats almost equal. That would be both. That is what he said , BOTH. One is sitting in a warm place. One will soon be in -5 degree weather in the grave yard. I don't think that is equal, but agree with BOTH.

Saddened

Des Plaines, IL

According to the newspaper reports, the father of the drunk driver is already placing blame on the victim, saying SHE distracted HIM while he was driving. Perhaps it's a defense statement to protect his son and his multiple restaurants image? The whole situation is very sad, but I'd say driving 3X the legal limit is distraction enough, and the death of the girl, although she used bad judgement by getting into the vechile with him, has to be placed in the hands of the "drunk driver". Now to turn the blame around on her is not only disrespectful by CRAZY! He is only going by what his son is telling him, and she is not here to defend herself.

Saddened

Des Plaines, IL

Ooops...sorry for the typo...It's not only disrespectful, but CRAZY!

The great tea hype

Judged:

Rick from Oak Forest wrote:

Put him away
"The girl is not to blame for this."
Oh yes she is!
She got in the car with the guy even though he was three sheets to the wind.
She doesn't get in the car with him and she's alive today.
That's a simple FACT.
Also ... she didn't put on her seat belt either.
So it would seem pretty obvious to smart people that she played a pretty big hand in her own demise.
Enough with the "poor innocent victim" schtick ..
Put the blame where it belongs ... on them BOTH.

Why stop with just blaming her, let's also step back and blame her parents too for having a child in the first place. With your logic, if they would have never procreated, she wouldn't have been able to get into a car with a spoiled rich boy who was 3 times the legal blood-alcohol limit and died, and that too is a simple fact. Let's blame everyone! That always seems to be the easy, popular, politically correct thing to do. All it does is cloud the real issue and never allows focus on the real issue which needs to be addressed, which in this instance is is driving while drunk.

You don't know this guy's normal state, or his state while drinking but under the legal blood alcohol limit, in addition to his state while over the legal limit. You are presuming she knew he was too drunk and unable to drive. People handle alcohol differently, and their actions are hard to read. Blaming her based on your presumption of what her perceptions were is arrogant and ignorant. The fact of the matter is he was 3 times the legal limit and drove - which is against the law. Her getting in a vehicle with him is not breaking the law. The law says he is guilty.

I have zero tolerance for drunk driving. Especially when everyone is MORE than aware of its illegality and danger to ones self and others. But no one cares about the others. Because sadly the drunk driver in these situations is rarely killed, while others are (just like this one).

The situation could have been much worse. It could have slammed into other traffic, including your vehicle filled with your loved ones. But then I guess according to your logic it would be your fault too for being on the road on NYE.

Rick from Oak Forest

Lauren

"rick... wow what do you even say to a rude person like you."

I'm rude for saying she was stupid for getting into a car with a guy who probably could hardly walk?

And for not putting her seatbelt on?

When you choose to ignore common sense again and again guess what?

You're STUPID.

Now go ahead and say something to me sweetcheeks and see if I tear you up for it!

Rick from Oak Forest

The great tea hype

"Why stop with just blaming her, let's also step back and blame her parents too for having a child in the first place. With your logic"

I'll blame her because she's not blameless.

And my logic is just that ... LOGIC.

Not an emotional reaction from someone who has the emotional capacity of a three-year-old and can't handle the truth.

"You don't know this guy's normal state, or his state while drinking but under the legal blood alcohol limit, in addition to his state while over the legal limit. You are presuming she knew he was too drunk and unable to drive."

I know what his blood alcohol content was. That's all I need to know about how sober he was. I also know she didn't use a seatbelt. That's all I need to know about how much of an "innocent victim" she was in all this.

Forget about the getting in the car part. Just for not putting on her seat belt, she played a part in it.

I also never said what she did was "illegal". But apparently you read about as well as you rationalize things. I said what she did was STUPID.

Which it clearly was.

Now ... do you want to continue to get MORE personal with me keyboard commando?

You might want to get that ever elusive GED and learn to read first.

Rick from Oak Forest

Saddened

Now watch the father of the drunk driver (who's already NOT blaming his son) start suing everybody he can think of ...

And people like Lauren and tea hype will be all cheering him on .. or making excuses for him ... because the he's "grieving" or some sorry excuse like that.

The same thing happened when a St Louis Cardinals pitcher died in a car accident a few years ago. Not only was the pitcher driving drunk and not wearing a seat belt at the time of the crash ... turns out he was texting at the time of impact too!

Yet when his father decided to sue the tow truck driver (who was doing his job preparing to tow a motorist on the side of the road when his truck was ran into) and various other parties, some people actually had the gall to say "leave the guy's father alone ... he's grieving!"

Yeah ... I should make excuses for a guy who can't admit that his ignorant kid was clearly at fault (for driving drunk and for not putting his seat belt on and for texting while driving) and feel sorry for the father rather than the people he's suing who now have to spend LOTS of money on attorney fees that would otherwise be going to help keep a roof over their heads and put food in their kid's mouths.

People like that make me sick!

pray for the families

Well Rick, i am not sure of your theory on the Father. It will depend on where he drank. Hope it wasn't where he was ' working' then, he would have to sue himself. If they Father said,, blah blah phone call, blah blah distracting him, he certainly could of added, his condolences. " My condolences to her family" 5 words... should of been said to the press.

The great tea hype

Rick from Oak Forest wrote:

I know what his blood alcohol content was. That's all I need to know about how sober he was. I also know she didn't use a seatbelt. That's all I need to know about how much of an "innocent victim" she was in all this.
Forget about the getting in the car part. Just for not putting on her seat belt, she played a part in it.

You continue to spew verbal diarrhea with 1-2 sentence paragraphs and have the balls to talk about education - laughable! You know what the blood alcohol was? Oh yeah, AFTER THE FACT, captain obvious. My statement still stands about not being able to judge drunkness by mere demeanor. Unless you are an objective guy that walks around with a BAC meter (which I doubt based on your flawed logic), every person's opinion is subjective and will vary.

As for seatbelts, you are picking and choosing the facts to defend your baseless opinion. He didn't have his seat belt on either, but you didn't mention that, maybe because he didn't die? If you want to get technical, it's the driver's responsibility to ensure his/her passengers are buckled anyways. That's something someone 3x the legal limit would have a hard time doing, especially if he can't even buckle himself up.

It's the guy's fault, plain and simple. He broke the law and killed someone as a result. Since you keep bringing up logic, 3rd grade cause and effect logic easily explains this. Since you don't get it, maybe your logic never progressed past a 2nd grade level, I don't know, but this will be my last post on this topic. No matter what you, or the guy's father says, the guy is guilty and is the cause.

Rick from Oak Forest

"You know what the blood alcohol was? Oh yeah, AFTER THE FACT, captain obvious."

Why is it only YOU have a problem with my common sense logic?

Could it be because you're a moron?

If his blood alcohol level was at such-and-such a percent after the fact, then it was even HIGHER at the time of the accident.

Wouldn't you think so "captain obvious"?

"He didn't have his seat belt on either, but you didn't mention that, maybe because he didn't die?"

So now I need to tell you what everybody else already knows .. that he also was stupid for not wearing his seat belt too?

Good God you're a moron!

"If you want to get technical, it's the driver's responsibility to ensure his/her passengers are buckled anyways."

It was HER job to make sure SHE was wearing it so SHE wouldn't die if she got into an accident .. especially since she was in the car with a guy who was VERY legally drunk. Then again, as you say, if he "would have a hard time doing" putting his own on because he's had "3x the legal limit" ... she probably shouldn't have gotten in the car with him in the first place.

Right, moron?

"It's the guy's fault, plain and simple. He broke the law and killed someone as a result. Since you keep bringing up logic, 3rd grade cause and effect logic easily explains this."

No .. try again moron. She got in the car with a guy who shouldn't have been driving, she didn't put her seat belt on .. and she died. Simple 3rd grade cause and effect logic .. that you still don't get.

Maybe next time I'll try pictures .. in your favorite color crayon so as not to confuse you further.

Now go refill your sippy cup and get back to me so I can continue tearing you to shreds on here.

OK moron?

Rick is a dope

United States

I'd suggest that you buy a clue but you are probably unemployed. If your ego shrank a tad, your brain might be able to function normally. Go back to one handed websurfing and beating you girlfriend.

Angered