dont move to Utica

dont move to Utica

Created by wow on May 28, 2012

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all thats up there is a lot of welfare receipants

I'm sure Utica was one time a viable city but it's

Central New York is a scary place, in my opnion. I

Avoid Utica or anywhere within 100 miles of it at

when life gives u lemons, make lemonade!!! all sai

Walking through Utica you get the feeling that you

There is garbage everywhere, cracked sidewalks, ho

For those who said one would think there are no sc

violent crime is lower than what one would expect

Drug dealers must realize Utica is not a lucrative

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UPD sponsored by Palmieri

Cortland, NY

#1 May 28, 2012
I think the politicians and the parasite public servants are 99% of the decades of uticas problem. Anyone got a real argument otherwise?
FUnny how nobody likes it when THAT gets talked about now isn't it?
wow

Cortland, NY

#2 May 28, 2012
If you've ever seen Michael Moore's Roger & Me then you should have some kind of idea of how bad life is in Utica (just watch the film and substitute Utica, NY for Flint, MI in your mind). Jobs are practically nonexistent and the majority of homes and buildings that haven't either burned down or fallen down have lapsed into disrepair and should be demolished. There are skyrocketing levels of lead poisoning in Utica because a lot the dilapitated houses have chipping lead paint and lead-contaminated pipes. The public school system is like a juevenille hall daycare center for ghetto offspring and hardly any learning occurs. Many of the people who grew up in Utica have moved to the nearby staunchly, conservative Italian Catholic middle class neighborhoods of New Hartford and Clinton.

Walking through Utica you get the feeling that you are in a haunted city and this is probably the "scary" and "depressing aura" that Brand Onian was talking about. There is garbage everywhere, cracked sidewalks, houses and buildings with boarded up windows and signage from the 1950s (seriously...I'm not kidding). For those who were wondering about toxic waste in the drinking water I can say: yes, there is toxic waste in the drinking water--it's called lead. For those who said one would think there are no schools in this part of the country I can say: there are schools, however, hardly any learning occurs in these hallowed instiutions other than basic reading and arithmitic (you'd be better off attending a school in Ethiopia).

Oddly, however, violent crime is lower than what one would expect in a city with such problems. This is probably due to the fact that people are too poor to afford guns and drugs (the two biggest contributing factors to violent crime rates). Most people in Utica get their food and clothes from food banks and churches so it is unlikely that people will be able to finance expensive cocaine addictions. Drug dealers must realize Utica is not a lucrative place to set up business so they avoid it. Besides Utica's dirt cheap real estate market, this may be the only positive thing going for the city. But, alas, it is not safe to walk the streets of Utica after dark and there are a lot of places that should be avoided altogether (like the James Street-Cornhill area). Two police officers were killed in the line of duty one year apart in Utica and New Hartford and the weekend shootings are as predictable as the sour weather, but there are generally less than 10 murders per year.

***Sigh*** What else? A small number of careless and reckless pit bull owners have made Utica into possibly the new pit bull capital of the world. And the problem only gets worse with each passing day. Every other person in Utica now owns a pitbull and nobody ever bothers to nueter their dogs or even place them on leashes. The result: Utica now looks like Michael Vick's backyard. Everyone in Utica should be shot!

So, yeah, that is it. Don't ever move to Utica. Try not to come within one hundred miles of the place. If you ever drive by Utica on the thruway roll up your windows and hold your breath until the city is out of view. If anything, Utica would make a good missile testing site and that is about it.
huh

Rome, NY

#3 May 28, 2012
what is this i dont even
UPD sponsored by Palmieri

Cortland, NY

#4 May 28, 2012
This is creepy why do I feel like somewhere Ive said almost everything in that post before?
And you're S.O.O.L. if you think many people from utica have heard of it. That was weird.
sir

Cortland, NY

#5 May 28, 2012
I am a Utica Native I attended and graduated Proctor High School...I am Afraican American, Jamaican, and part Native American. I graduated Mohawk Valley Community College in I earned an A.S. Degree in Early Childhood Education. I was hired by Junior Junction Daycare in South Utica I was the only Black working their encounter many problems with the other staff whom were white, who were angry in me obtaining more education the staff were from herkimer, saquoit, and sherill very rude didnt like me at all and cloving i would recommend you putting your child in Utica City school district Utica unforetunately is stuck in an ugly time period a very racist and conservative area. I will be graduating in May from SUNY Albany with a BA in Journalism degree and I applied to WKTV and of course they gave me the run around and ultimately I didn't recieve the positin and I personally believe they need more mminorities they don't even have ONE! I woudn't recommend any minority whose college educated to live in the Utica area because its not diverse at all. I am applying for jobs in Syracuse and Albany because of the most diverse populations there. So I really dislike Utica. I hope in the future they change their stance amongst minorities because its like the Jim Crow era.
RSO85 "you should've lived in cornhill" what type of crap is that because she's black she needs to live in cornhill thats racist thinking but because you reside in Utica you aren't open minded thats sad. I encourage all Uticans to get out of Utica for awhile to see the world because you will stay close minded like individuals on this website. I really think for a small city this place is really ignorant and we can talk about how to improve the race factor since 1990s but its time to"do" and show because realistically Utica will never see a Black mayor. Also, Im even thinking of a moe to NYC and the person who made the statement that theres more back people in NY state is very inorany and atually the state of South Carolina has the most black people in the country so check your facts and if you don't know it ASK whether than saying it.
LoveUtica

Carthage, NY

#6 May 28, 2012
I love it here. If you dont move. Scientific fact negative thoughts create negative results. It's the negative thinking that is wrong with Utica. Is the glass half empty or half full. I have lived in other parts of the country and I am grateful that I was raised here and I am grateful to raise my kids here. P.S I love the water. Never buy bottled here. If you don't like it here maybe it's time to move. You and every other negative thinker that has been holding this city back for years. I rather take a lemon and turn into lemon aid.
catherine

Cortland, NY

#7 May 28, 2012
maybe someone copy and paste i think ive seen this somewhere
roy

Cortland, NY

#8 May 28, 2012
Actually, NY State has more Black people than anyother state in the US. African American Population Demographics

SC is the 3rd or 4th Blackest state percentage wise. Mississippi is the Blackest state percentages wise in the US and my parents are from those two states. Historically, they are the Blackest states in the US. NY is the 10th Blackest state in the US percentage wise.

As for Utica, I think it gets bad rep in the region and it really isn't too bad as a city. With that said, I can see how nepotism can be strong there and it can also be ethnic, not just racial too. It is about 15% Black and it would be great it the community can get together and start more small businesses to provide jobs in high minority neighborhoods there. People have to make sure to support these businesses and that the businesses provide good services
mary

Cortland, NY

#9 May 28, 2012
I grew up outside of Utica, in Clinton. At that time, it was the butt of all sorts of jokes (it's what NYC threw up, etc...). Then I moved elsewhere in NY.

Fast forward to a few years ago, when my wife and I bought a house in Utica. The neighborhood wasn't great, but the people were friendly and we found a few nice restaurants and events going on. The local hospitals are good, though.

The politics and infrastructure are still sorely lacking. No one seems to know what to do with the place. Downtown is a mess. I used to teach job training classes to welfare recipients. I was caught between people who didn't want to work and the fact that, even if they did, there weren't many jobs available. Granted, you get off your ass, take that job at McD's, and suck it up. Still, it wasn't the most uplifting thing, trying to encourage folks to work when the area wasn't offering much. Those who did the best? The Bosnians and other immigrants. They were so flippin' happy to be there, they took any job. They took two, in fact. Hopefully this influx of hard-working folks can help turn around a once-proud city.

Would I live there again? No. Is it a hellhole? No. Is it sad and somewhat rundown? Yes. Hopefully, Utica can pull itself out of the past, like other upstate NY towns have done in recent years.
mouse

Cortland, NY

#10 May 28, 2012
I spent a college semester in Utica and even in that short time I picked up on the whole Bosnian thing going on.... the funny part is .. as a white guy... I see all these whites bitching , and its like they are the ones fleeing their neighborhoods -- so **** them. Its the same in Buffalo where you got these Pollacks bitching that the East Side is all black now.. OH NOES well you abandoned your neighborhoods and left a vacuum, so **** you.

This is why , no matter where Im living, I side with minority communities -- cause they are always on the moral high ground !!! I can't even think of a case where its been the other way around ! Bosnians are buiding a better Utica while the stupid Italians/Irish [WHITE PEOPLE]are leaving for the sunbelt and bitching about it ! Its hilarious !
country boy

Cortland, NY

#11 May 28, 2012
I grew up just on the outskirts of Utica. I would not trade growing up there for the world. But as I got older and out of college, I realized it was not the place for me. Without a doubt Utica has a ton of problems on every corner, and there does not seem to be enough ambitious people to want to fix them. So I was one of the people that bailed on the city and moved 3000 miles away. But as I get older and married and soon to have kids, I realize that life there is probably better than 95% of the country. Utica is plagued with problems, it looks like a bombed out warzone, but in that warzone is a tight knit of people, incredible geography, 4 seasons, mom and pop restaurants, and a place that isn't getting overdeveloped like the west.

Sure life is great out west. The weather is phenominal. The jobs are more than abundant and pay very well. You are never bored out here. But in the midst of all of that lies something you get in Utica and not out here. And it's called (no cliche intended here) the simple life. I can only hope to find a place like Utica and the Mohawk Valley to raise my kids and root my family. My wife being a born and raised California girl would never in her life move to Utica, so we have to search elsewhere.

Stay positive Utica. When you are down on the bottom you can only go up! Getting rid of Tim Julian was the first step!
Sirwrong

Carthage, NY

#12 May 28, 2012
WKTV has a black female morning anchor.
This should be good

Cortland, NY

#13 May 28, 2012
LoveUtica wrote:
I love it here. If you dont move. Scientific fact negative thoughts create negative results. It's the negative thinking that is wrong with Utica. Is the glass half empty or half full. I have lived in other parts of the country and I am grateful that I was raised here and I am grateful to raise my kids here. P.S I love the water. Never buy bottled here. If you don't like it here maybe it's time to move. You and every other negative thinker that has been holding this city back for years. I rather take a lemon and turn into lemon aid.
YEah yeah keep telling yourselves that some of you profit from that mentality. After all, "negative mentality' isn't what brought the place to it's knees give that pooftey stuff up already once and for all people. Start telling it like it IS for a change stop being ostriches and letting idiot bullies shout you down and try to keoo turning things around to blame everything else. The officials and the mdia are a large HUGE part of the problem this didn't happen overnight. People have enriched themselves off the state and now there almost nothing left. Pipe dreams and not talking about it isn't going to make it go a way. Just watch how they attack this guy posting that POV above for all the proof you'll ever ever need that the very same people that cause this do everything they can to try to destroy and hush anyone who dares burst their bubble. Here it comes!
edji

Cortland, NY

#14 May 28, 2012
Utica has it's faults, but Syracuse is worse. Activities are limited and, to be frank, unsophisticated--this the research does not reveal. The primary and secondary education up here, overall, is poor, unless the school is suburban. Getting into the educational "system" up here is almost impossible, unless you want to jump through the DOE's hoops (I have graduate degrees and experience in other states, and I was treated like I had nothing because I wasn't "native", so I opted out of teaching) the pay is lower than research would reveal, but it certainly isn't any worse than a lot of other economically depressed areas. There are good aspects and bad (the natural scenery is gorgeous), but I've lived a lot of places and all of them have faults. Bottom line: would I have moved up here had I known what it would be like? No. Do I want to give it a chance to grow? Yes. I have no choice at this point. Will I wait forever for that to happen? No, again. The responses from some of the Utica natives on this blog are very much like the sarcastic snippiness we have found personally from the same. Granted, there are some exceptions, but very few. Unless you have the time and means to stick it out until the area transitions into the 21st century, it would probably be prudent to get out as soon as possible. I wish I had.
mrkool

Cortland, NY

#15 May 28, 2012
Wow! I read this post just in time. I was just starting to load up the U Haul truck, heading for Utica. But now I read all this bad stuff... and will just call the whole move off. Or I could make a slight adjustment to plan and drive a few miles further on to Rome. Is that any better? How about the crackhead problem there?
Now I'm so confused.
nyc

Cortland, NY

#16 May 28, 2012
Utica---The City That Makes Scranton Look Like Paris!
gonna do you

Cortland, NY

#17 May 28, 2012
Wow theyre gonna do you like they did JESUS for putting this up here!
wow wrote:
If you've ever seen Michael Moore's Roger & Me then you should have some kind of idea of how bad life is in Utica (just watch the film and substitute Utica, NY for Flint, MI in your mind). Jobs are practically nonexistent and the majority of homes and buildings that haven't either burned down or fallen down have lapsed into disrepair and should be demolished. There are skyrocketing levels of lead poisoning in Utica because a lot the dilapitated houses have chipping lead paint and lead-contaminated pipes. The public school system is like a juevenille hall daycare center for ghetto offspring and hardly any learning occurs. Many of the people who grew up in Utica have moved to the nearby staunchly, conservative Italian Catholic middle class neighborhoods of New Hartford and Clinton.
Walking through Utica you get the feeling that you are in a haunted city and this is probably the "scary" and "depressing aura" that Brand Onian was talking about. There is garbage everywhere, cracked sidewalks, houses and buildings with boarded up windows and signage from the 1950s (seriously...I'm not kidding). For those who were wondering about toxic waste in the drinking water I can say: yes, there is toxic waste in the drinking water--it's called lead. For those who said one would think there are no schools in this part of the country I can say: there are schools, however, hardly any learning occurs in these hallowed instiutions other than basic reading and arithmitic (you'd be better off attending a school in Ethiopia).
Oddly, however, violent crime is lower than what one would expect in a city with such problems. This is probably due to the fact that people are too poor to afford guns and drugs (the two biggest contributing factors to violent crime rates). Most people in Utica get their food and clothes from food banks and churches so it is unlikely that people will be able to finance expensive cocaine addictions. Drug dealers must realize Utica is not a lucrative place to set up business so they avoid it. Besides Utica's dirt cheap real estate market, this may be the only positive thing going for the city. But, alas, it is not safe to walk the streets of Utica after dark and there are a lot of places that should be avoided altogether (like the James Street-Cornhill area). Two police officers were killed in the line of duty one year apart in Utica and New Hartford and the weekend shootings are as predictable as the sour weather, but there are generally less than 10 murders per year.
***Sigh*** What else? A small number of careless and reckless pit bull owners have made Utica into possibly the new pit bull capital of the world. And the problem only gets worse with each passing day. Every other person in Utica now owns a pitbull and nobody ever bothers to nueter their dogs or even place them on leashes. The result: Utica now looks like Michael Vick's backyard. Everyone in Utica should be shot!
So, yeah, that is it. Don't ever move to Utica. Try not to come within one hundred miles of the place. If you ever drive by Utica on the thruway roll up your windows and hold your breath until the city is out of view. If anything, Utica would make a good missile testing site and that is about it.

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#18 May 28, 2012
Actually it is not avoiding Utica. It is more being selective and researching the neighborhoods.
LoveUtica

Carthage, NY

#19 May 28, 2012
It's the best place in the world. Name a better city I dare you.
What

Carthage, NY

#20 May 28, 2012
If people don't like it move. Does anyone have a gun to your head. I am sure the grass is greener some where else. If you moved already why do you care so much about Utica topics?

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