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R Brown

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Apr 18, 2011
 
betterdeadthanred wrote:
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(Referring to Sam Graves.
A 100% pro-business voting record with the Chamber of Commerce = Capitalist
A 0% pro-union voting record with the AFL-CIO = Captialist
I say that if this man is for business and against communism, he is far better than the marxist in the White House.
Great points. I don't oppose labor unions, just the tactics of the union bosses who expoit their members so they can advance their political agendas. If one digs deep enough, one may find that the labor bosses are in bed with the Super Capitalists. I favor free-market capitalism in a level playing field. Competition is the key. But the Super-Capitalists hate competition. John D. Rockefeller did his best to stifle his competitors in the oil industry. He referred to this as nipping the small rose buds so that the bigger one (Standard Oil) could prosper. Capitalism on steroids becomes communism or state socialism, where the few global corporations (Walmart for instance) who control the governments become monopolies. Armand Hammer (capitalist) said, "We can do business with the Communists". Why? Under a communist dictator, there would be no free-enterprise capitalists to compete with the mega-corporations. Just a captive market for the global corporations.

Another thought: I am wondering how many jobs have been created by labor unions. If no capitalists, then no jobs. But without the unions to curb business greed, we would still have child labor, bare subsistance for workers, mo workmen's comp, and no unemployment benefits. My dad worked for the Missouri Employment Security Administration, and he was a bit hostile toward private business. Yet it is private businesses who pay the employment taxes to support the employees of the Missouri Employment Adm. Why would one want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg? Private business employees in Missouri do not pay unemployment taxes. As business prospers, so does the government.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, for many years U.S. Socialist Presidential candidate.

This is already happening, and has been for several years.

The problem with socialism, according to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, is that sooner or later the government runs out of other people's money.
Capitalism is Good

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R Brown wrote:
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Great points. I don't oppose labor unions, just the tactics of the union bosses who expoit their members so they can advance their political agendas. If one digs deep enough, one may find that the labor bosses are in bed with the Super Capitalists. I favor free-market capitalism in a level playing field. Competition is the key. But the Super-Capitalists hate competition. John D. Rockefeller did his best to stifle his competitors in the oil industry. He referred to this as nipping the small rose buds so that the bigger one (Standard Oil) could prosper. Capitalism on steroids becomes communism or state socialism, where the few global corporations (Walmart for instance) who control the governments become monopolies. Armand Hammer (capitalist) said, "We can do business with the Communists". Why? Under a communist dictator, there would be no free-enterprise capitalists to compete with the mega-corporations. Just a captive market for the global corporations.
Another thought: I am wondering how many jobs have been created by labor unions. If no capitalists, then no jobs. But without the unions to curb business greed, we would still have child labor, bare subsistance for workers, mo workmen's comp, and no unemployment benefits. My dad worked for the Missouri Employment Security Administration, and he was a bit hostile toward private business. Yet it is private businesses who pay the employment taxes to support the employees of the Missouri Employment Adm. Why would one want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg? Private business employees in Missouri do not pay unemployment taxes. As business prospers, so does the government.
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." Norman Thomas, for many years U.S. Socialist Presidential candidate.
This is already happening, and has been for several years.
The problem with socialism, according to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, is that sooner or later the government runs out of other people's money.
What we have been experiencing for quite some time that you refer to as the "super-capitalists" are really "crony-capitalists". This is much closer to fascist than it is to capitalist in terms of using the power of government to create or enforce monopolies on market sectors. GE is a prime example of crony-capitalism - donate millions to the regime in turn for being allowed to write laws and steer markets in their favor all without paying taxes!

Big Labor is simply a cartel much like the OPEC oil cartel or the Colombian cocaine cartel. It exists solely to control the supply of labor and to steer vast sums of money into pools that is then used to further organized crime both inside and outside our government.

In both crony-capitalism and big-labor shakedowns, the little guy gets screwed and has to pay for either tax subsidies for "green energy research" - GE, or for paying off bankrupt union pension funds with taxpayer dollars - GM.

We had the right idea back in WWII when we were proud to kill fascists and nazis, and we also had the right idea in Korea when we were killing communists. Somewhere after the sixties, the hippies took off the tie-dye, put on suits and now we have communists in the Whitehouse.

Joe McCarthy, while not exactly a subtle man, was correct. We should have heeded his warnings.
R Brown

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To "Capitalism is Good". Great job!

Interesting video I just found:
It may explain a few things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I lived in Sedalia when was 7 years old. We lived on Marvin St. Went to Whitier(?) "grade" school. Brothers attended Smith-Cotton. Moved to Trenton way back in "19 hundred and 52"

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