Report: KidsPeace teens had sex

Report: KidsPeace teens had sex

There are 61 comments on the The Morning Call story from Feb 10, 2009, titled Report: KidsPeace teens had sex. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Teenagers who were supposed to be kept apart were caught engaged in sexual acts in two separate incidents at KidsPeace in Orefield last summer, according to reports issued by the Pennsylvania Department of ...

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Former Kidspeace Employee

Roseland, NJ

#42 Feb 10, 2009
Be truthful wrote:
I just don't understand how this myth of kids being "drugged up", or becoming "like zombies" stays so alive. It just simply isn't true.
Kids take medications to treat psychiatric disorders... just like you would get medicine to treat pain, a headache or high cholesterol. Back in the turn of the century, yes the few drugs available did this. At the time it was seen as more humane to knock someone out chemically than to tie them down for days at a time. Now, however, using drugs as "chemical restraints" is not only not done, it is against the law. The drugs available today do not have this "zombie" effect, and when they do, it is usually only in the first few days of taking it, until the body gets used to it.... not unlike many non-psychiatric drugs people take for all kinds of ailments. And before the predictable response comes, let me inform you that mediactions are taken freely by the kids. They are allowed to refuse to take any of them at any time, with no consequences whatsoever. And no, that doesn't mean they are held down and given a shot against their will. That occurs very rarely, and only when the kid is so out of control or psychotic they are non-responsive to anything else. And when I say "very rarely", I mean about 98% of kids in psychiatric facilities will never experience that at all.
The TRUTH is, if you were in physical pain, you would insist upon a doctor helping you, and would expect that help to come in the form of a pill. People making these comments about "zombies" and the like just perpetuate a false steriotype that Psychiatry is just there to control people. Imagine when you felt more scared than any time in your life. Some time when you honestly thought you were going to die. Maybee it was a car accident, mabee when you almost slipped off a roof... Now imagine feeling that ALL THE TIME, becaouse your brain can't turn off the internal "emergency switch" like the rest of us. YOU would ask for help, and gladly take a pill that took that horrible feeling away. However, thanks to people who never saw it for themselves keep talking about how "drugged up" they believe people in psychiatric facilities are, you will be reluctant to ask for help, and maybee suffer needlessly like many out there do every day. Villifying these medications that people freely take, and ASK FOR, these medications that when prescribed skillfully IMPROVE lives, and give people back what they have lost to a disease they cannot control and did not ask for is irresponsible and hurtful.
Having worked there, I can tell you the kids were medicated to make them "anagable" vs actually helping them. And kids are WAY overmedicated now a days. That's why selling Adderal and other ADHD/ADD meds has become a cottage industry in high schools and colleges.
Michael

Allentown, PA

#43 Feb 10, 2009
Be truthful wrote:
Imagine when you felt more scared than any time in your life. Some time when you honestly thought you were going to die. Now imagine feeling that ALL THE TIME, becaouse your brain can't turn off the internal "emergency switch" like the rest of us. YOU would ask for help, and gladly take a pill that took that horrible feeling away.
This is a coward's way out, giving people drugs to make them feel better. When we had children back then who felt that way all the time, we realized they were genetic failures and not fit for society. These kids accidentally found their way off the edge of a cliff or to the bottom of the river. We didn't burden society with them, or an overburdened healthcare system. You knew when a child responded to a punch in the face with even more anger instead of fear that he was not ever going to be a working member of society, and we erased those mistakes ourselves. Of course in today's irresponsible society these parents no longer have the brains or guts to do it, so off they go out into the world, which is why we now have Columbine, Virginia Tech, and so on.
WORTHLESS LATINOS

Shenandoah, PA

#44 Feb 10, 2009
Krissa wrote:
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Kidspeace is not a "welfare progam" - it is a FOR PROFIT mental health facility. The staff, while not making a ton of money, makes more than minimum wage.
Judging from your handle, You should spend less time being a bigot and more time educating yourself.
kidspeace is a welfare program that makes a profit, thanks to the govt sending kids there (no scum poor family sends their kids there, and pays for it; it's all part of the court system.)

judging from your bleeding heart, you should spend less time in a suit and tie, attending board meetings, and more time in downtown allentown where these down and dirty worthess teens cause trouble.
yep

Bethlehem, PA

#45 Feb 10, 2009
Former Kidspeace Employee wrote:
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Having worked there, I can tell you the kids were medicated to make them "anagable" vs actually helping them. And kids are WAY overmedicated now a days. That's why selling Adderal and other ADHD/ADD meds has become a cottage industry in high schools and colleges.
DO you have a psych degree or possibly any education beyond your personal experience at kids peace to be making a judgement as to how much or little kids are medicated? Generally speaking, children who end up at kidspeace are not the most mentally stable youngsters. Many of the females exhibit borderline traits, while the males antisocial traits.

“Matthew 5:10”

Since: Dec 08

Allentown

#46 Feb 10, 2009
WORTHLESS LATINOS wrote:
<quoted text>kidspeace is a welfare program that makes a profit, thanks to the govt sending kids there (no scum poor family sends their kids there, and pays for it; it's all part of the court system.)
judging from your bleeding heart, you should spend less time in a suit and tie, attending board meetings, and more time in downtown allentown where these down and dirty worthess teens cause trouble.
Ok, first of all, being female, I don't normally wear a suit and tie.

Second of all - I GREW UP IN DOWNTOWN ALLENTOWN. I saw it all. I WAS one of those "down and dirty" teens. I rose above my circumstances. And because I believe in giving back to MY community, I volunteer as a mentor to inner city kids to this day.

Third of all - Kidspeace has kids from all over, not just the Lehigh Valley. And a large chunk of their money comes from INSURANCE COMPANIES of families who PUT THEIR KIDS THERE.

Judging from your callous, racist heart, you should spend less time in a white hood and robe, attending Klan meetings, and more time educating your self.
Former Kidspeace Employee

Allentown, PA

#47 Feb 10, 2009
yep wrote:
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DO you have a psych degree or possibly any education beyond your personal experience at kids peace to be making a judgement as to how much or little kids are medicated? Generally speaking, children who end up at kidspeace are not the most mentally stable youngsters. Many of the females exhibit borderline traits, while the males antisocial traits.
I have my RN and my MSW. Again, it's been over 10 years since I worked there so maybe things have changed. The kids are generally speaking not very stable. The kids at the hospital were (obviously) the sickest and perhaps the ones most in need of psychotrophic meds. But I saw plenty of kids who really were not displaying behavior much different than the typical rebellious teen - but mommy and/or daddy didn't want to deal with adolescence so they stuck them in KidsPeace. These kids learned quickly from the sicker kids how to act, and meds would be prescribed.
LOTS of girls w/ borderline personality, suicidal ideation, eating disorders... lots of boys with oppositional defiant disorder, adhd, etc... But what I saw in the residential centers was a lot of overmedicating. Things may very well have changed there since then, but that was my experience.
Scarletts Plantation

Palmerton, PA

#48 Feb 10, 2009
WORTHLESS LATINOS wrote:
<quoted text>kidspeace is a welfare program that makes a profit, thanks to the govt sending kids there (no scum poor family sends their kids there, and pays for it; it's all part of the court system.)
The free bees keep go'in round and round..
sickofit

Catasauqua, PA

#49 Feb 10, 2009
Chelle7822 wrote:
This is absolutely ridiculous, and did I read they are only going to "retrain" staff? immediate terminations are the only acceptable remedy.
you come work here, genius-do you think you could do better-cuz really i don't think you could!
Yeah Sure

Easton, PA

#50 Feb 10, 2009
Let them enjoy!
Stop making things up

United States

#52 Feb 11, 2009
WORTHLESS LATINOS wrote:
<quoted text>kidspeace is a welfare program that makes a profit, thanks to the govt sending kids there (no scum poor family sends their kids there, and pays for it; it's all part of the court system.)
judging from your bleeding heart, you should spend less time in a suit and tie, attending board meetings, and more time in downtown allentown where these down and dirty worthess teens cause trouble.
I don't know what you do for a living, and chances are, whatever it is, you know it better than I do. If there was a story about your work, I certainly wouldn't make things up and presnet them as fact, so I ask you to pay the same courtesy.
I say this because you are wrong. Not in my opinion, but in fact. Actually, The hospital is full of kids who's parents bring them there voluntarilly. Very few, if any are "sent there" by any government agency. Second, KidsPeace is no more a "welfare agency" than any medical hospital is, including the one you go to when you are injured. They accept more "government money" per patient than KidsPeace ever will. Third, there are parents who pay for KidsPeace out of their own pockets in ALL of thier programs. And finally, KidsPeace is NOT-FOR-PROFIT. They have no shareholders, no owners, ect. 100% of the money they make above costs goes back into the programs. It's that simple.
Suze

Lemoyne, PA

#53 Feb 11, 2009
Wow, teens having sex... who knew?
Rick

Philadelphia, PA

#54 Feb 11, 2009
The truth wrote:
At least there's a place like KIDSPEACE. There wasn't when I was growing up. Whatever problems we had, we were told to get over it.
Apparently it worked. You got over it.
BJ Clinton

Fairfield, CA

#55 Feb 11, 2009
Maybe some nook-nook will be good for these kids and help them overcome their behavioral problems. I know it helps me to act a little better whenever I get some.
watched from above

Sparta, NJ

#56 Feb 14, 2009
EVIL is lurking at KP
concerned

Berwick, PA

#57 Mar 17, 2014
do not take your child here!!! nothing but really bad inner city children. as a parent checking out the facilities i witnessed verbal abuse to a 5 year old boy ans well as a teenage "hoodrat" making lude comments to my 8 year old daughter..........we immediately took our child far away from this unsafe place. parents if you love your kids don't take them here. please!
Judi64girl

Philadelphia, PA

#58 Jan 27, 2016
I would like to know are the children all together. Are the teenagers with the say 9 and 10 year olds. Is there some one there to care for little girls hair and personal issues¿
Roofus Shingles

Fogelsville, PA

#59 Jan 27, 2016
Judi64girl wrote:
I would like to know are the children all together. Are the teenagers with the say 9 and 10 year olds. Is there some one there to care for little girls hair and personal issues¿
creepy........
Truthful

United States

#60 Feb 10, 2016
Kids Peace in Bowden, GA IS A COMPLETE joke. They are thieves and could care less about what these kids do. It's an easy pay check for them. They need to be investigated and shut down. I'm sure if someone just popped up to investigate instead of making an appointment they would find hear and see all they needed in order to shut the place down. Complete incompetence.
CPH

Elizabethtown, PA

#61 Feb 24, 2016
Jerry, please read and see if this makes sense:
Chapter 5
Do Not Equate Correction With Corporal Punishment
Children, just like adults, love to hear positive things said to them and about them. To not hear those things is in itself a punishment and a correction. When someone wants to do what is right, just a reminder that they have failed can be an arrow that pierces the soul. Look at the shame and the discouragement and the humiliation that came over the Apostle Peter once he realized that he had denied the Lord, and it did not even take a human voice to remind him of his error, just the crowing of a rooster.
In the New Testament Hebrews 12:6-7 says, "For whom the Lord loves he chastens, and scourges every son whom he receives. If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chastens not?" In these verses the chastisement that God sometimes gives to us is compared to the chastisement that a father gives to his son. But God does not beat us with a literal rod, and He does not strike us physically. We are reminded of the way in which He dealt with Peter. He simply lets us know that He is displeased with us. God’s chastisement is primarily communication whereby He lets us know that we have failed, and then we are stricken in our conscience. The correction that the parent is responsible for giving is the communication with the child whereby the child knows that he has failed, knows why he has failed, and knows that the parent is displeased with him. We humans are very sensitive creatures. It does not take much to let someone know that you are not pleased with them: a glance, a frown, a gesture. If the parent and child have a loving relationship, there will be no greater punishment for the child than to know that the parent is not pleased. The child will live and breathe just to hear these words from the parent: "Well done, my child."
Jesus warned His followers against using violence. The Bible says in Matthew 26:52, "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." Jesus also taught that the way that you treat others is the way that they will end up treating you. He said in Luke 6:38,“Give and it shall be given unto you. Good measure, pressed down and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that you mete withal it shall be measured to you again.” There will be negative consequences to the use of violence. Violence begets violence, and striking begets striking. When a parent strikes a child, it can be a form of violence. Often your own behavior and actions will teach your children more than your words. Do not make the mistake of teaching your children to use violence because of the example that you have given to them.
Jesus told His followers to be as wise as serpents, but as gentle as lambs. In First Timothy chapter 3 we are given the qualifications for a Christian man who might be selected as a pastor of a church. One of the qualifications is listed in verse 3 as "no striker". This means that he should not be someone who strikes other humans. There are no exceptions given. He should not strike his neighbors, he should not strike his co-workers, he should not strike his wife, and he should not strike his children. In the Bible verse that follows the one that says that a pastor should not be a striker, the Bible says that the pastor should have "his children in subjection with all gravity." If striking the children was meant to be used as one of the means to keep the children in subjection with all gravity, then this would have been an excellent occasion to give spanking as an exception to the commandment to be "no striker", but no exception is given. A pastor should not be one who strikes others, and that includes his children. If a pastor should not be a striker of humans, then it should certainly be the goal of all other Christians also.
Goodmom01

Elizabethtown, PA

#62 May 2, 2016
jerry nalcrest fla wrote:
I think people like " Dr. Spock " go to Hell!!! "Spare the rod and spoil the child" This is what we all get for it!!
Spare the rod spoil the child? The kids are in there to get away from abuse and help their pain from people who think your way! Take some empathy schooling!

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