Dense fog caused 'tragic accident,' s...

Dense fog caused 'tragic accident,' says D.A. Martin

There are 52 comments on the The Morning Call story from Mar 3, 2009, titled Dense fog caused 'tragic accident,' says D.A. Martin. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Lehigh County District Attorney James Martin said Monday that a thick blanket of fog was the primary reason for a December crash in Upper Saucon Township that killed a 16-year-old Parkland High School student ...

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“Howdy, Ya'll!”

Since: Feb 07

Allentown

#46 Mar 4, 2009
DrHook wrote:
Hey Monkey, seems like you are working overtime here. Who's paying ya?
Paranoid much? Nobody's payin' me - I'm just paying attention. The trolls think trashing a dead teenager is OK because it supposedly advances their case against Martin. That's just sad. That's why the MC removed the link, not some grand Martin scheme. Does Martin even know anyone still working at the Call? No matter - the paper won't be around by the end of the year, anyways. And then we'll be stuck with the local blogosphere to pretend it reports the news. Now THAT is scary.
DUH

Schnecksville, PA

#47 Mar 4, 2009
This "child" had his license for three years already!! He is old enough to vote and to go to war to protect your sorry a__, but too young to drive?
Tina wrote:
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Have some compassion on stupidity?! There's never a problem until some innocent gets killed and then there is still no problem. What's wrong with the parents that let their kids out in those conditions and with a child driving that has no problem putting their children's lives at risk? Don't say anything negative now so others may learn from these mistakes. Parents, learn how to love your children and these tragedies will occur less frequently.
DUH

Schnecksville, PA

#48 Mar 4, 2009
FYI, the victim who died was not the driver.
Gee Whiz wrote:
I do feel that his lacking of driving skills could have played a part but he was killed and it's not fair to bash him online about it. There are friends and family mourning the loss of this person and it's a shame everyone needs to pick on the death of a 16 year old. Go talk about politics or something!
DUH

Schnecksville, PA

#49 Mar 4, 2009
It's really pretty easy, I have no use for know it all pieces of crap who like to inject their opinions into situations where they do not know any of the parties involved.
Suze wrote:
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Are you implying that Scouts can't do drugs??? haha... have I got news for you!!!
And how can you call someone ignorant and then say "hope you die"? bah
A load of crap

Saint Louis, MO

#51 Mar 5, 2009
Ah, no wonder I couldn't find this till now.

I'm not sorry for stepping on anyone's toes here. The crash may have an 'accident' but the driver is the ultimate one in control of the car, not the fog.

I forgot one more charge against Mr. Jaindl; vehicular manslaughter in the death of his paasenger, Joshua Booth.

Glad I wasn't involved or Mr. Martin would be getting more than a load of crap from me.

Everyone who knew Joshua should raise their voices loud and clear you want justice for him.
A load of crap

Saint Louis, MO

#52 Mar 5, 2009
MonkeyMomma wrote:
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Then go start a thread about Jim Martin. Your issues with Martin have no place here.
Why? He's the one who is supposed to bring justice to crime victims, isn't he?

Wasn't Joshua Booth a victim of an errant driver? Doesn't he deserve justice?

Doesn't Mr. Janidl deserve punishment for taking the life of another human being and injuring more human beings?

Don't the injured deserve justice too?

If Mr. Martin had a case you're involved in, wouldn't you want justice?

“Howdy, Ya'll!”

Since: Feb 07

Allentown

#53 Mar 5, 2009
A load of crap wrote:
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Why? He's the one who is supposed to bring justice to crime victims, isn't he?
Wasn't Joshua Booth a victim of an errant driver? Doesn't he deserve justice?
Doesn't Mr. Janidl deserve punishment for taking the life of another human being and injuring more human beings?
Don't the injured deserve justice too?
If Mr. Martin had a case you're involved in, wouldn't you want justice?
What the deceased deserves is to rest in peace. This accident was a tragedy, but assigning blame to Martin is ridiculous. I realize you probably have some *personal* vendetta against Martin, and you therefore seek to smear him in any case he's associated with, but your line of reasoning makes no sense. You have ZERO evidence of any wrongdoing here. The plain fact is, this accident was just an accident. And you can't jail everyone who's made a mistake.
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Korea

#54 Mar 6, 2009
MonkeyMomma wrote:
OK, it's still operational here, although no longer available via the Call's own website.
There are those on the blogosphere who allege that Jim Martin has "friend" at the Call who stopped the comment ability here once the Martin slams started. Of course, those claiming this are probably the same ones electronically lynching Martin here.
Yes, Martin is good friends with Glen Kranzley. Yes, the Morning Call selectively utilizes the Topix to promote or restrict discussion on the news they report on.

Welcome to Big Brother.
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Korea

#55 Mar 6, 2009
JRR11 wrote:
Sounds like citations still need to be issued for careless driving and driving to fast for conditions. But then again it will never happen since the last name of one individuals involved in the crash is "Jandl"
The name is not "Jandl" according to Upper Saucon Police and Morning Call.

According to Upper Saucon police, Jeffrey JaIndl, 19, of South Whitehall Township.
Geri

Bethlehem, PA

#56 Mar 9, 2009
A load of crap wrote:
The cop that investigated the crash should be fired for incompetancy. The fog didn't do a thing other than being there. The fog wasn't the driver. The fog wasn't in control of the car. So spare the weather caused the crash b.s.
I could name a few charges against Jeffrey Jaindl;
Reckless and careless driving.
Failture to stay in his lane or crossing the center line.
Failure to keep his car under control.
Driving too fast for conditions.
And just plain selfishness for ignoring the safety of his passengers and the driver of the pickup truck. The ghost of reckless driving should have been a passenger to warn Jaindl to slow down.
If I were Joe Brugger I would demand a re-investigation of the crash and demand that Mr. Jaindl be held responsible for my injuries and vehicle damage.
I agree. It's too easy to say he didn't mean to do it. There was fog and he was speeding. I wouldn't throw him in jail, but I would definitely cite him.

The way laws are applied around here disgusts me. Someone must be friends with the right people.

But no matter what Jaindl does from now on, he'll always remain the one who got his friend killed by his own carelessness. That'll overshadow everything else he does. There's no way he can be responsible for his friend's death and feel no guilt about it. That'll stay with him forever.

Nowadays, everybody looks up everybody else on the Internet before job interviews etc. There's no escape for Jaindl. Sometimes justice doesn't have anything to do with the police, but you've got to have faith in the long run.
A load of crap

Dallas, TX

#57 Mar 11, 2009
MonkeyMomma wrote:
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What the deceased deserves is to rest in peace. This accident was a tragedy, but assigning blame to Martin is ridiculous. I realize you probably have some *personal* vendetta against Martin, and you therefore seek to smear him in any case he's associated with, but your line of reasoning makes no sense. You have ZERO evidence of any wrongdoing here. The plain fact is, this accident was just an accident. And you can't jail everyone who's made a mistake.
Are you having an affair with Mr. Martin which is why you're so supportive of him?

Of course the deceased deserve to RIP but they also deserve justice for being put 6 feet under in the first place.

“Howdy, Ya'll!”

Since: Feb 07

Allentown

#58 Mar 11, 2009
A load of crap wrote:
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Are you having an affair with Mr. Martin which is why you're so supportive of him?
Of course the deceased deserve to RIP but they also deserve justice for being put 6 feet under in the first place.
Yes, Mr. Martin is just soooo hot, it's true. But, it doesn't surprise me that you'd use this opportunity to slam me in any way possible, even if it means alleging an affair. That is just so typical of the folks who regularly trash Martin.

Look, it's no secret you have a political agenda. How odd that you call yourself a progressive democrat to your friends, yet use this opportunity to launch a sexist attack against me, an internet stranger.

You need to look into your own soul (if you can stand it) and figure out why you are full of hate. Are you really angry at Martin? Did he cause this crash? Maybe the person you are so upset is YOURSELF.

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