Charles Ramsey on Rescuing Amanda Berry

Charles Ramsey on Rescuing Amanda Berry

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King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#1 May 10, 2013
After over 10 yeas living in a run down house with people coming over, it would seem to me that the girls would have developed a plan of escape along time ago...

The girls were either stupid, or they just wanted to be there...

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/05...

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#2 May 13, 2013
Do you honestly believe that? Keep in mind dolander, they were not found, they alerted someone.
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#3 May 13, 2013
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
Do you honestly believe that? Keep in mind dolander, they were not found, they alerted someone.
Yes I do...

Keep in mind that "they".. did not alert someone.. It was just one of the women.. Seems to me that if a black man eating a big mac can kick the bottom of a cheap door in, three grown women should be able to do it as well ...

Since: Apr 13

Jacksonville, FL

#4 May 13, 2013
King of wisdom wrote:
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Yes I do...
Keep in mind that "they".. did not alert someone.. It was just one of the women.. Seems to me that if a black man eating a big mac can kick the bottom of a cheap door in, three grown women should be able to do it as well ...
Who's to say that these woman were allowed freely around the house? We don't know what kind of restraints were used to keep them captive. I mean, think about it - 10 YEARS - there would have had to be drastic measures taken to keep them confined and quiet for so long... and that too would explain why Amanda Berry was so frantic trying to call attention so promptly before Castro returned.

And mind you - once the policy arrived they had to go into the home to recover the other girls... it's not like they came out on their own!

Being kept against your will for 10 years doesn't make you "stupid"...
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#5 May 13, 2013
wnmv2013 wrote:
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Who's to say that these woman were allowed freely around the house? We don't know what kind of restraints were used to keep them captive.
The woman with the child had their own bedroom where the other 2 women had their own.. I think the other 2 women were gay, but thats just my opinion, based on the fact they they still want to be together after the ordeal...

Seems to me that if a woman that was tied up for over 10 years and managed to break free, she would first free the other women for backup alone before putting luck in the hopes of a blackman walking down the road with a bigmac in hand...

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#6 May 14, 2013
King of wisdom wrote:
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The woman with the child had their own bedroom where the other 2 women had their own.. I think the other 2 women were gay, but thats just my opinion, based on the fact they they still want to be together after the ordeal...
Seems to me that if a woman that was tied up for over 10 years and managed to break free, she would first free the other women for backup alone before putting luck in the hopes of a blackman walking down the road with a bigmac in hand...
Still many questions to be answered in this case, however we do know for a FACT that Ariel Castro bet Michelle Knight so badly over the years that she is deaf in one ear and will probably require reconstruction surgery of her face. We also know all were abused and assaulted during their captivity but according to dolander they must have like it so they stayed in the house. There is NO Way Ariel Castro did anything to keep them there.
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#7 May 14, 2013
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Still many questions to be answered in this case, however we do know for a FACT that Ariel Castro bet Michelle Knight so badly over the years that she is deaf in one ear and will probably require reconstruction surgery of her face.
If there are still many question to be answered, how can you speak of facts? You cant have it both ways Mr Logic.. I wont allow it in my thread..

Try again...

Since: Apr 13

Jacksonville, FL

#8 May 14, 2013
King of wisdom wrote:
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If there are still many question to be answered, how can you speak of facts? You cant have it both ways Mr Logic.. I wont allow it in my thread..
Try again...
WHO, with any degree of common sense would make such an asinine comment!?!

In any investigation, you begin with knowing NOTHING, and slowly - with time, facts start unraveling.

For Mr. Logic to reference the FACT that Castro did these horrible things... is not having it "both ways"... its simply stating that at this point in the investigation, there has been some development in certain aspects, but naturally... the process will have to forego much more analysis until all of the pieces are fit to the crime.

I'm hoping that you're purposely being this foolish... just to get an arousal.:/

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#9 May 15, 2013
King of wisdom wrote:
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If there are still many question to be answered, how can you speak of facts? You cant have it both ways Mr Logic.. I wont allow it in my thread..
Try again...
Dolander that was weak, real weak. Let me help you understand dolander
Fact, Ariel Castro is a male, do you dispute?
Fact, Ariel Castro is a kidnapper, do you dispute?
Fact, Ariel Castro has a daughter from one of the girls he kidnapped, do you dispute?
Question, why did he kidnap young girls?
Question, why did these girls not escape earlier?

Do I need to continue dolander?
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#10 May 15, 2013
i have been on the Cleveland site following this story not real close but somewhat. i think there was some police graft and looking the other way here plus definitely some neighbourhood coverup. There have been reports of Cleveland police going there upon reports and after no one coming to the door, driving off. Neighbours reported there were naked women on occasion being led around on a leash in the backyard, again no police department followup. there is a whole lot more here than meets the eye as the ol' saying goes.
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#11 May 15, 2013
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Question, why did these girls not escape earlier?
Do I need to continue dolander?
No.. You finally got it right, even though it did take you awhile to get there..
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#12 May 15, 2013
wnmv2013 wrote:
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For Mr. Logic to reference the FACT that Castro did these horrible things... is not having it "both ways"...
I disagree because any decent mother would not allow her child to live with a horrible man such as she did for so many years.. She also publicly said that she home schooled the child.. So if she is smart enough to do that, why wasn't she smart enough to free the child sooner with 2 other adult women to help her?... After all it wasn't like they were living in a secluded farmhouse with no neighbors around or company coming over..

Since: Apr 13

Jacksonville, FL

#13 May 15, 2013
King of wisdom wrote:
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I disagree because any decent mother would not allow her child to live with a horrible man such as she did for so many years.. She also publicly said that she home schooled the child.. So if she is smart enough to do that, why wasn't she smart enough to free the child sooner with 2 other adult women to help her?... After all it wasn't like they were living in a secluded farmhouse with no neighbors around or company coming over..
Hmmmm. I see.

At this point, I'm removing my interest from this thread - obviously you created it with the sole purpose of... being moronic.

;) Google that one for yourself. M O R O N I C.

Mr. Logic,

I think we could both agree that this "King of Wisdom" character is clearly just trying to play the devils advocate... purposely being obnoxious.
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#14 May 16, 2013
wnmv2013 wrote:
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Hmmmm. I see.
At this point, I'm removing my interest from this thread - obviously you created it with the sole purpose of... being moronic.
;) Google that one for yourself. M O R O N I C.
Mr. Logic,
I think we could both agree that this "King of Wisdom" character is clearly just trying to play the devils advocate... purposely being obnoxious.
Then get the f$$k of of my thread!!

You wanting to cry on Mr Logic's shoulder because you can't handle the realities of the world, only proves you to be weak minded ...

Since: Apr 13

Jacksonville, FL

#15 May 16, 2013
King of wisdom wrote:
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Then get the f$$k of of my thread!!
You wanting to cry on Mr Logic's shoulder because you can't handle the realities of the world, only proves you to be weak minded ...
So now you can't read either?

No where in my statement was I "crying to Mr. Logic"... I think it's pretty clear that I was confirming the obvious.

And... weak minded? That comment, especially coming from a mindless fool... has no validity.
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#16 May 16, 2013
Seems to me it would be a hard job for a man making a wage as a buss driver to go home several time a days to untie the women for bathroom time.. And who took care of the kid while he was making a living to provide for the household? It didn't look to me that they were starving... How many of them went to the hospital for malnutrition?

I dont believe that these women deserve any sympathy..
As a matter of fact, they discuss me..
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#17 May 16, 2013
wnmv2013 wrote:
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So now you can't read either?
No where in my statement was I "crying to Mr. Logic"... I think it's pretty clear that I was confirming the obvious.
And what is the obvious?... Pick anything that I have said in this thread and prove it to be wrong.. Or shut the F$$k up...

Since: Apr 13

Jacksonville, FL

#18 May 16, 2013
Well, if you have learned how to properly read... my comment was as follows:

"Mr. Logic,
I think we could both agree that this "King of Wisdom" character is clearly just trying to play the devils advocate... purposely being obnoxious".

... THAT was the obvious.

***discust

And, their health conditions have clearly been elaborated on; did you not read that one of the victims has been beaten so badly that she'll need reconstructive surgery on her face? And that she's also half deaf now from being beaten?
King of wisdom

Jacksonville, FL

#19 May 17, 2013
wnmv2013 wrote:
Well, if you have learned how to properly read... my comment was as follows:
"Mr. Logic,
I think we could both agree that this "King of Wisdom" character is clearly just trying to play the devils advocate... purposely being obnoxious".
... THAT was the obvious.
***discust
And, their health conditions have clearly been elaborated on; did you not read that one of the victims has been beaten so badly that she'll need reconstructive surgery on her face? And that she's also half deaf now from being beaten?
By you reaching out for support from Mr Logic to attack me personally proves you to be weak minded and insecure..

There is nothing in this thread that I said that is obnoxious.. And there is nothing in this thread that I said that you can disprove.. So that makes you a cry baby... And thats a fact that you have proven on your own...

As far as the one girl being beaten.. Have you ever seen two women get in a fight? I have and it can get pretty vicious.. Were you there?... Im not saying thats what happened, but I am saying that it is a possibility.. Can you prove me wrong?

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