US factory output at three-year low

US factory output at three-year low

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“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#1 Jul 3, 2012
US manufacturing activity contracted for the first time in three years, further denting confidence in a global economy that is already feeling the effects of the eurozone debt crisis and China’s economic slowdown.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cb8a70a0-c469-11e1-...

But the Private sector is doing just Fine!!!
noshellswill

Saint Augustine, FL

#2 Jul 3, 2012
Every loss in **slantsville** factory output is a **GAIN** for American factory output.

Whatever China does not export to us, WE must make or harvest or express for ourself ... products or items of equivalent $$$.value.

...to prove I'm an even-minded gent I give irreplaceable goods COUNTER-EXAMPLES: whores and drugs.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#3 Jul 6, 2012
noshellswill wrote:
Every loss in **slantsville** factory output is a **GAIN** for American factory output.
Whatever China does not export to us, WE must make or harvest or express for ourself ... products or items of equivalent $$$.value.
...to prove I'm an even-minded gent I give irreplaceable goods COUNTER-EXAMPLES: whores and drugs.
I take it noshellswill that you do not understand that “US manufacturing activity contracted” means that production was down which in turn means hours worked were down and there’s a good chance US manufacturing Jobs were lost and not gained as you implied.
noshellswill

Saint Augustine, FL

#4 Jul 6, 2012
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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I take it noshellswill that you do not understand that “US manufacturing activity contracted” means that production was down which in turn means hours worked were down and there’s a good chance US manufacturing Jobs were lost and not gained as you implied.
I read as well as you WSC ... strikes me as not just **odd** but impossible .. unless the US employment is being manipulated by our chi.com business/cultural enemies. Instead of a **rational outcome** where their pain is our gain, they force an I-hurt-U-hurt meme. Mafia_like by slant "enforcers" eh my friend?

You **do** understand that (klan)business has no better morals than Gub'mnt ... identify the stronger and kill them off! So NSS removes rose_colored Libertoonian glasses, polishes up the gulag barbed wire fence and sez:

use-it-here/make-it-here/inves t-it-here.

RIP/SLASH /SNARL

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#5 Jul 6, 2012
noshellswill wrote:
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I read as well as you WSC ... strikes me as not just **odd** but impossible .. unless the US employment is being manipulated by our chi.com business/cultural enemies. Instead of a **rational outcome** where their pain is our gain, they force an I-hurt-U-hurt meme. Mafia_like by slant "enforcers" eh my friend?
You **do** understand that (klan)business has no better morals than Gub'mnt ... identify the stronger and kill them off! So NSS removes rose_colored Libertoonian glasses, polishes up the gulag barbed wire fence and sez:
use-it-here/make-it-here/inves t-it-here.
RIP/SLASH /SNARL
Are you suggesting that it is “impossible” for both China and United States Manufacturing to decline at the same time or have I misinterpreted your post? Not sure what the rest of the post has to do with the topic at hand, just seams off topic which is the norm for you.
noshellswill

Saint Augustine, FL

#6 Jul 6, 2012
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Are you suggesting that it is “impossible” for both China and United States Manufacturing to decline at the same time or have I misinterpreted your post? Not sure what the rest of the post has to do with the topic at hand, just seams off topic which is the norm for you.
That's exactly what I said, given the **HUGE** chi.com exports to America. Why do you even question the issue?

As for speculating about undue, corrupting chi.com financial influence in America, why do you consider that **off topic**? Does an American or Chi.com company write your check?

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#7 Jul 9, 2012
noshellswill wrote:
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That's exactly what I said, given the **HUGE** chi.com exports to America. Why do you even question the issue?
As for speculating about undue, corrupting chi.com financial influence in America, why do you consider that **off topic**? Does an American or Chi.com company write your check?
Because what you say does not agree with the facts. Yes the United States still imports a lot of stuff but not near what we use to. You may not like the “Facts” and the “Facts” do throw a large utility pole through the spokes of noshellswill theory. However, the FACTS are this, with the United States is not consuming the China’s factory output will fall. Even Nouriel Roubini states that “a slowdown in emerging markets, particularly China” is hurt the global economy.
noshellswill

Saint Augustine, FL

#8 Jul 9, 2012
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Because what you say does not agree with the facts. Yes the United States still imports a lot of stuff but not near what we use to. You may not like the “Facts” and the “Facts” do throw a large utility pole through the spokes of noshellswill theory. However, the FACTS are this, with the United States is not consuming the China’s factory output will fall. Even Nouriel Roubini states that “a slowdown in emerging markets, particularly China” is hurt the global economy.
Yes ... we import even **more** from the chi.com s than we did "before(?what)". Will you just admit to throwing BS about, or do I need to get grubby and research the actual numbers?

Or try this: GOTO Wallmarts or CVS or ACE Hardware OR HARBOR Freight and tell me where do the manufactured products come from? Gawdsakes WSC it's both manifest and obvious for even the casual observer ...

GOTO NEWEGG: find country of manufacture for **all** the computer goods. Satisfied?
ABM

Jacksonville Beach, FL

#9 Jul 9, 2012
Why bother to argue with him, WSC, the only babble he believes is his own?
noshellswill

Saint Augustine, FL

#10 Jul 11, 2012
ABM wrote:
Why bother to argue with him, WSC, the only babble he believes is his own?
WSC rejects the destructive effects of mass imports on American culture. Thus either he sees **no** intrinsic value in skillful human production, or his money comes from the import market and so corrupts his values.

No wonder he would rather see Obama.nation re-elected than give an inch of sociopathic frenzy. Or perhaps I should say he can see no value in any activity on which he cannot turn a dollar profit.
ABM

Jacksonville Beach, FL

#11 Jul 11, 2012
Mass imports are a result of big money republicans sending jobs overseas in order to enhance their profit without regard to Americans being put out of work. Plain, simple and correct.
noshellswill

Saint Augustine, FL

#12 Jul 11, 2012
ABM wrote:
Mass imports are a result of big money republicans sending jobs overseas in order to enhance their profit without regard to Americans being put out of work. Plain, simple and correct.
What you say is true, but incomplete. Two other lib.com groups support poverty & Gub'mnt induced de-industrialization:

1) Dominant Demorat Rawlsians **also** wish those American jobs exported, because their "archtypes" ... the truly and dissolutely unable ... cannot benefit from skilful employment opportunity. The mass of Negroes with IQs under 85 are unfit! This they view as **unfair** the greatest of evils and so wish poverty and dependency upon all: blind the sighted and cripple the swift!!

2) mud-hut GREENs, who favor a narrow, fearful life of vermin-infested poverty where a simpering, claustrophobic communalism is broken only by the screams of plague, defect.ridden or sacrificial victims. GREENs view humans as stains on bytch-Gaias virus-infected paradise and attack all human attempts for liberation and power over nature. The American mid.class is their GREAT-SATAN!

As you can see, big-money RepubliFat$ whom I scourge are not the worst of the lot!! They seek humanist value and mayhaps be managed. Clear enough why I support a fascist republic? Lots of big words ... yes , I apologize, too many indeed ...
Westside conservative

Jacksonville, FL

#13 Jul 11, 2012
noshellswill wrote:
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WSC rejects the destructive effects of mass imports on American culture. Thus either he sees **no** intrinsic value in skillful human production, or his money comes from the import market and so corrupts his values.
No wonder he would rather see Obama.nation re-elected than give an inch of sociopathic frenzy. Or perhaps I should say he can see no value in any activity on which he cannot turn a dollar profit.
You misjudge me shelly, I understand fully how destructive imports are to our economy. Where we differ is the method to stop them. You support government intervention through tariffs and laws. I support a wise and decent populace who through the power of their wallet supports American businesses and products.

In my opinion, your way forces the right choice upon us but does nothing to improve the American character. It has the potential to return us to the crap that came out of Detroit in the 70s due to the lack of competition.

My way relies on an awakening in the character of the average American and a realization of how interconnected we all are and how buying those cheap foreign products slits all our own throats.

To me the greatest of all offenders is Apple. Their highly overprice products could easily be made here at a product. Instead they run sweat shops in China to make billions more.

Where we truly disagree is the mechanism to ensure American productivity. Is it better to have a robust yeomanry who understand the impact of their financial decisions or is it better to have the government force us to do the right thing.
Westside conservative

Jacksonville, FL

#14 Jul 11, 2012
ABM wrote:
Mass imports are a result of big money republicans sending jobs overseas in order to enhance their profit without regard to Americans being put out of work. Plain, simple and correct.
ABM both parties are equally guilty of that offense. Remember the Democrats where reaping record hauls from big businesses in 2008. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA prior to that opening the doors.

May I also remind you that the dems would offer amnesty if they had their way which would cost millions of American jobs as illegals would be able to legally take employment. Remember the smaller the labor pool the higher the wages and vice versa.

To make this a one party argument is to foolishly engage in the old arguments that keep us blinded to the pillaging of the republic. Both parties wallets are equally fattened from imports. Stop it altogether whether rep or dem.

Don't be a party person, be an American.
ROSSI 46

United States

#15 Jul 11, 2012
ABM wrote:
Mass imports are a result of big money republicans sending jobs overseas in order to enhance their profit without regard to Americans being put out of work. Plain, simple and correct.
so there's no big $$$ democrat corp owners out there hosing. Us. You. Can't have a double standard they all want to make $$$. Don't you. R. U a sheep or a moron. Or both. I can't tell from here. Your getting screwed. Don't drink amymore koolaid.
ROSSI 46

United States

#16 Jul 11, 2012
ABM wrote:
Mass imports are a result of big money republicans sending jobs overseas in order to enhance their profit without regard to Americans being put out of work. Plain, simple and correct.
your boy bo. Is a millionaire and hasn't even gave his poorass bro in kenya a dime. Hell he could live
Like a king there on $10 k. So much for helping his fellow broz eh. Black unemployment is at 14..4% and black teens to 25s is 38.5% I hope they wake up see they've been played. Like. A stratovarious. Look up the word hope. It means nothing. And change we can do without a euroamerica.
noshellswill

Saint Augustine, FL

#17 Jul 11, 2012
Westside conservative wrote:
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You misjudge me shelly, I understand fully how destructive imports are to our economy. Where we differ is the method to stop them. You support government intervention through tariffs and laws. I support a wise and decent populace who through the power of their wallet supports American businesses and products.
In my opinion, your way forces the right choice upon us but does nothing to improve the American character. It has the potential to return us to the crap that came out of Detroit in the 70s due to the lack of competition.
My way relies on an awakening in the character of the average American and a realization of how interconnected we all are and how buying those cheap foreign products slits all our own throats.
To me the greatest of all offenders is Apple. Their highly overprice products could easily be made here at a product. Instead they run sweat shops in China to make billions more.
Where we truly disagree is the mechanism to ensure American productivity. Is it better to have a robust yeomanry who understand the impact of their financial decisions or is it better to have the government force us to do the right thing.
Surely I have no rational, casual response to such an excellent argument. Didn't LIJ at-one-time promise to finance a post steak-house-dinner debate on such serious issues?

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#18 Jul 12, 2012
noshellswill wrote:
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Yes ... we import even **more** from the chi.com s than we did "before(?what)". Will you just admit to throwing BS about, or do I need to get grubby and research the actual numbers?
Or try this: GOTO Wallmarts or CVS or ACE Hardware OR HARBOR Freight and tell me where do the manufactured products come from? Gawdsakes WSC it's both manifest and obvious for even the casual observer ...
GOTO NEWEGG: find country of manufacture for **all** the computer goods. Satisfied?
Well noshellswill I guess if Wal-Mart is your only point of reference then you have a point. Fortunately for me and many others here who understand the ""Facts"" we can see the bigger picture. I will give you a pass on this one my friend, you must ignore the Facts as those facts would destroy your life time work on your ""Theory""
noshellswill

Saint Augustine, FL

#19 Jul 13, 2012
Mr Logic in Jax wrote:
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Well noshellswill I guess if Wal-Mart is your only point of reference then you have a point. Fortunately for me and many others here who understand the ""Facts"" we can see the bigger picture. I will give you a pass on this one my friend, you must ignore the Facts as those facts would destroy your life time work on your ""Theory""
HARBOR FREIGHT and NEWEGG are both serious retail purveyors of tooling systems (mechanical and computer respectively). When 99% of their stock is imports you know America is in trouble.

Gawdsakes even when we design and validate a product ... we can't even afford to build F-22s!

Today I did buy a made-in-America rug-set.

“Just Add Obama ”

Since: Mar 08

Jacksonville Florida

#20 Jul 16, 2012
noshellswill wrote:
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HARBOR FREIGHT and NEWEGG are both serious retail purveyors of tooling systems (mechanical and computer respectively). When 99% of their stock is imports you know America is in trouble.
Gawdsakes even when we design and validate a product ... we can't even afford to build F-22s!
Today I did buy a made-in-America rug-set.
Harbor freight provides a service correct, it also employs workers correct. Now it is true that many of the products are “”cost effective”” for the buyer however, longevity of service life is not equal to the higher priced and durable options. I guess the consumer should not be given a choice in what level of quality he or she is willing to pay for, is that correct noshelllswell?

Recently I had to make a consumer choice similar to this. I needed a pressure washer to clean the patio and exterior walls of the house. I have the need for a pressure washer maybe once a year if that, so do I buy a “”cost effective”” unit that would do the job but last more than a couple of uses until repairs were needed or do I spend the money a but a quality unit that will last for years but hurt the wallet now. After looking into the cost and understanding that if I did not use either unit on regular bases (these are gas units) then repairs and cleaning would be ongoing. So I rented a unit form the Depot for 24 hours. Guess you could say I outsourced my pressure washer needs.

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