VOTER FRAUD Investigations and Soluti...

VOTER FRAUD Investigations and Solutions(?)

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“Fair & Balanced Editing”

Since: Jun 10

Orange Cove (Fresno County) CA

#1 Aug 14, 2010
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Democrats ask U.S. Attorney to investigate voter registration fraud

April 22nd, 2010,
posted by BRIAN JOSEPH, Sacramento Correspondent

Frank Barbaro, chairman of the Democratic Party of Orange County, wrote a letter to Andre Birotte Jr., U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California, today, asking that his office investigate the voter registration fraud uncovered by the Orange County Register.

“For the second time since 2006, Orange County Republican-paid operatives have engaged in deceptive and fraudulent voter registration by signing up college students as Republican voters without their consent,” Barbaro said in a press release Thursday.“Their acts not only constitute fraudulent voter registration, fraudulent document filing, and perjury but could well violate the National Voter Registration Act, which makes it a federal crime to the procure or submit voter registration applications that are ‘known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held.’

“I am calling for the ‘grownups’ in the Republican Party to step up and start acting as responsible adults and to stop this voter registration fraud. Paying an $8 ‘bounty’ to operatives who in turn deceive students who sign registration cards is not only illegal but an act of desperation by a political party whose appeal is fading fast in Orange County and across the nation.

“I am also asking that the United States Department of Justice investigate whether these actions violate the National Voter Registration Act and to prosecute these ‘bounty-hunters’ to the fullest extent of the law. The right of citizens of the United States to vote is a fundamental right and should vigorously protected.”

MORE ... Orange County Register ...
http://taxdollars.ocregister.com/2010/04/22/d...

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A (Orange County) Register investigation published online April 16 and in Sunday’s newspaper exposed how signature gatherers circulating petitions tricked young Orange County voters into registering to vote as Republicans.
MORE ...
http://www.ocregister.com/news/-244428--.html

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The Orange County District Attorney’s office told the Register this week that it will reach out the Secretary of State’s office to offer its help in an investigation of the newspaper’s findings.
MORE ...
http://taxdollars.ocregister.com/2010/04/22/d...

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Since: Oct 08

United States

#2 Aug 16, 2010
Why doesn't the Fresno County Democrat Party request an investigation into the voter fraud spread throughout the county by it's own party, including right here in OC?

The request in Orange County is a PR stunt. Watch how many convictions come out of that one. They've done it before, and will do it again - accuse their rivals of cheating all the while blatantly committing the fraud themselves.

How many times in a close election do the democrats "find" a box of uncounted ballots in some poll workers trunk a day or two later? I've never heard of that coming out of a Republican precinct.

So a few college democrats registered as republicans - for the express purpose of making this bogus claim. It has happened in the past, will in the future, it is intentional, old and as long as the liberal media will carry their water to slander the opposition, the democrats will continue this PR tactic.

Vic Lopez is a democrat, and he learned his vote fraud techniques from others higher up in the democrat party. They all benefit from cheaters who cheat for their fellow democrats.$20 a vote this year? It may be $40 again, as Jim Costa may need some "help".

“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#4 Aug 16, 2010
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"Why doesn't the Fresno County Democrat Party request an investigation into the voter fraud spread throughout the county by it's own party, including right here in OC?"

If you have a specific event in mind that is illegal or immoral, you can report the information direct to the Executive Committee here;

http://fcdcc.org/wp/...

The web site for the Fresno County Democratic Central Committee is;

http://www.fcdcc.org/

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Since: Oct 08

United States

#5 Aug 16, 2010
Eldon, all we need to do is walk into the Dem headquarters and say "Victor Lopez". Is there anything else that needs to be said? They know what's going on here, and have been participating in it for decades, so why have they not led an investigation of vote fraud here?

Even Cruz Bustamante participated in the fraud here in OC when he was Lt. Governor. He and Victor worked together pressuring non-US citizens to register and vote democrat. I've heard it first hand from a woman who's home was visited by the dynamic duo, and her boyfriend was a resident alien. They told him he could vote and pressured him to sign the voter registration card. The woman chased them out of her house, but not before the resident alien signed his name under penalty of perjury that he was a US citizen and eligible to vote. By the way, he could not read english and spoke little english, so it was not hard for Lopez and Bustamante to lie to this guy and pressure him to register (and sign up for an absentee ballot).

Lopez and Bustamante are democrats. Wonder why they don't investigate voter fraud?
Karen

United States

#6 Aug 16, 2010
Sunshine you must get a kick out of lying,you still have not provided any proof of anything you have stated ahainst mayor lopez!

“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#8 Aug 16, 2010
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"..Even Cruz Bustamante participated.."

Bustamante is history ... Bustamante and LOPEZ attempted to ram a street light deal thru the City Council ... the CURRENT CITY COUNCIL members saw thru the ruse and rejected the deal.

LOPEZ' infamous former City Council would have walked it down the aisle, slipped on the “$wedding ring$”, and the City would have got another kick in the butt.

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“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#9 Aug 16, 2010
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"..and have been participating in it for decades.."

Here is an idea ... why don't YOU look at the 460's filed by the committee to elect victor lopez, et. al. for the past "decades", and contact the ultimate source of this funding?

Think LAFCo!! LOPEZ uses his position to raise money for his election. OVER $44,000 from his 2006 campaign for mayor. Over $8,000 was paid out in under $100 increments in cash and checks, and do not require itemization. It is all right there in black and white in simple American words.

LOPEZ abuses his position on LAFCo ... Waterston got thrown off the commission for his illegal activities. Fifty letters to the NEW Executive Director and the Commission Members will go a long way toward tempering his abuse and misuse of the influence the position affords him!!!

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Speaking of Abuse ....

When was the last time you contacted the NEW Executive Director of the Fresno County EOC about LOPEZ doing what he damn well pleases while he is on SALARY from the TAXPAYER funded EOC PAYROLL????

Oh and Karen, DOING WHAT HE PLEASES includes over 20 calls to Tom Greenwood and over a dozen to Lee Baily in a relatively short time frame, and at least two RADIO BROADCASTS, using his CITY TAXPAYER PAID CELL PHONE.

Film at 11:00 ... watch for ittt!!!!

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Since: Oct 08

United States

#10 Aug 17, 2010
When Bustamante was committing vote fraud in OC he was the Lt. Governor of the state of CA. That should be a sufficient demonstration as to the level of vote fraud to be found in the democrat party. The fraud is top down.

By the way, who is the new director and what's his contact# or e-mail? I'd love to find out what Lopez' job description is, what are his required work hours, and who his immediate supervisor is. Could be fun.
baby blue

United States

#11 Aug 17, 2010
Mister_Sunshine wrote:
Why doesn't the Fresno County Democrat Party request an investigation into the voter fraud spread throughout the county by it's own party, including right here in OC?
The request in Orange County is a PR stunt. Watch how many convictions come out of that one. They've done it before, and will do it again - accuse their rivals of cheating all the while blatantly committing the fraud themselves.
How many times in a close election do the democrats "find" a box of uncounted ballots in some poll workers trunk a day or two later? I've never heard of that coming out of a Republican precinct.
So a few college democrats registered as republicans - for the express purpose of making this bogus claim. It has happened in the past, will in the future, it is intentional, old and as long as the liberal media will carry their water to slander the opposition, the democrats will continue this PR tactic.
Vic Lopez is a democrat, and he learned his vote fraud techniques from others higher up in the democrat party. They all benefit from cheaters who cheat for their fellow democrats.$20 a vote this year? It may be $40 again, as Jim Costa may need some "help".
I agree, the Orange County mess smells like a publicity stunt. If there is voter fraud going on in Orange Cove, why is it not stopped? Here are some theories.

Are those reporting it inept in thier documentation?

Are those that are reporting it unfairly labeled as "nuts" by the election office?

Because the democrats are in Power?

No one cares what happens in Orange Cove?

People are too lazy to report it?

A vast right wing conspiracy?

It would seem to me with what has been presented here that conviction would be a slam dunk, unless some of the options I have presented are at work

“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#13 Aug 17, 2010
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"When Bustamante was committing vote fraud in OC he was the Lt. Governor of the state of CA. That should be a sufficient demonstration as to the level of vote fraud to be found in the democrat party. The fraud is top down."

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1. Did you request assistance from the Fresno County Republican Central Committee? Voter Fraud should be one of their areas of interest!

(( FYI - you and "baby blue" can hold a conference on publicity stunts by Democrats regarding the illegal registration by REPUBLICAN OPERATIVES [ i.e. hired help ]... YOU are an intelligent man, "baby blue" is a dumb ass kid like johnny/tommeee.))

2. Did you file a complaint with the County Clerk and Registrar of Voters for Fresno County? I know it would not have been acted upon, BUT there would have been a valid paper trail!!!

3. Did you file a complaint with the CA Secretary of State, Elections Fraud Investigations Unit? Again a paper trail is important for future leverage.

4. Did you file a complaint with the CA Attorney General? I will not repeat the obvious.

5. Did you file a complaint with the FPPC?

Peeing and moaning and blaming the Democrats will not produce any positive results. Suggestion - Be PARTISAN in a POSTITIVE way.

Gotta finish my cocktail and fix supper ...

Oh, BTW for the B-Brigade, I watched Darrel Hoffer get taken down by Manuel this morning - it was GREAT and Darrel looked like a damn fool(!)- he really needs to send his wife for confrontations - he SUCKS at confrontation!!!!

Oh and what a coincidence, Tommmeeee showed up just as Manuel was explaining the facts of life to Darrel.

Oh, BTW-2, Manuel had already explained the facts of life to Gildea earlier in the day !!!!

A GREAT day for truth and justice in Orange Cove!!

Somebody needs to explain to Saint Kevin that he WORKS for the Board of Directors, and they do not answer to HIM!!!!!

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“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#14 Aug 17, 2010
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Oh and a word of advice for Hoffer .. IF you try to B.S. your way around the FACTS ... keep in mind that there were at least five or six more people that were watching and listening.

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“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#15 Aug 17, 2010
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Oh and a word of advice for Hofer .. IF you try to B.S. your way around the FACTS ... keep in mind that there were at least five or six more people that were watching and listening.

ONE MORE NOTE ... just like the person(s) responsible for purchasing and having the illegal recording devices installed at the FIRE STATION and the Chief's Truck, we could have recorded the confrontation this morning when I was walking by Hofer.

Can somebody check and see IF it is a FEDERAL CRIME to surreptitiously record peoples conversations in a PUBLIC BUILDING and in a Taxpayer Purchased Vehicle without those being recorded advised as to what is happening???? i.e.- the OC Fire Department.

Does anybody know who BOUGHT the equipment used for this alleged ILLEGAL RECORDING??

IF it is a crime to record a normal telephone land line or cell phone conversation without notifying both parties, would it not be reasonable to assume that it is ILLEGAL to do that in a public building and a vehicle??? Oh wait, maybe these geniuses had a WARRANT like the FBI or other law enforcement agencies must have to tape conversations … WOW - why didn’t we think of that before – law abiding self-proclaimed rich people would not do scummy krap like that.

I think it is time to move that ILLEGAL RECORDING ISSUE investigation from the Sheriff's Department to OCPD ... what do you think??

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John Doe

Hanford, CA

#16 Aug 17, 2010
Awww ole eldoon, you just wait! Its just getting started.

BTW: Too bad manuel doesn't have the intelligence to talk like a MAN. He has to resort to using foul language and talking like the idiot he is!

Since: Oct 08

United States

#18 Aug 18, 2010
thompson-Western Mavrick wrote:
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"When Bustamante was committing vote fraud in OC he was the Lt. Governor of the state of CA. That should be a sufficient demonstration as to the level of vote fraud to be found in the democrat party. The fraud is top down."
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1. Did you request assistance from the Fresno County Republican Central Committee? Voter Fraud should be one of their areas of interest!
(( FYI - you and "baby blue" can hold a conference on publicity stunts by Democrats regarding the illegal registration by REPUBLICAN OPERATIVES [ i.e. hired help ]... YOU are an intelligent man, "baby blue" is a dumb ass kid like johnny/tommeee.))
2. Did you file a complaint with the County Clerk and Registrar of Voters for Fresno County? I know it would not have been acted upon, BUT there would have been a valid paper trail!!!
3. Did you file a complaint with the CA Secretary of State, Elections Fraud Investigations Unit? Again a paper trail is important for future leverage.
4. Did you file a complaint with the CA Attorney General? I will not repeat the obvious.
5. Did you file a complaint with the FPPC?
Peeing and moaning and blaming the Democrats will not produce any positive results. Suggestion - Be PARTISAN in a POSTITIVE way.
Gotta finish my cocktail and fix supper ...
Oh, BTW for the B-Brigade, I watched Darrel Hoffer get taken down by Manuel this morning - it was GREAT and Darrel looked like a damn fool(!)- he really needs to send his wife for confrontations - he SUCKS at confrontation!!!!
Oh and what a coincidence, Tommmeeee showed up just as Manuel was explaining the facts of life to Darrel.
Oh, BTW-2, Manuel had already explained the facts of life to Gildea earlier in the day !!!!
A GREAT day for truth and justice in Orange Cove!!
Somebody needs to explain to Saint Kevin that he WORKS for the Board of Directors, and they do not answer to HIM!!!!!
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*Sigh*

Eldon, I have contacted the county elections office, worked through the Fresno Republican Party, which has filed their complaints of voter fraud both here and throughout the county, I had a meeting with the Secretary of State, which Sue Jones and Manuel also attended, filed complaints with the FPPC and filed a complaint with the feds concerning OC vote fraud. We had the CA vote fraud investigators here and they uncovered unprecedented fraud at an astonishing level, but were helpless to pursue it as no one was willing to testify against Lopez out of fear for their personal safety. They did not have the resources to pursue it any further and dropped it.

I've done what I could on legitimate vote fraud activities by Victor Lopez and his cronies, Calvin Dooley, Jim Costa and other democrats in our area. When you have the state legislature and the state's attorney general and the secretary of state controlled by democrats, what is the likelihood that they will investigate their own fraud? Instead of policing themselves, democrats simply deflect attention from their activities by accusing republicans of doing what they have done for decades.
John Doe

United States

#20 Aug 18, 2010
ole eldoon if you don't consider manuels language yesterday 2 be foul then all I can say is your momma (if you even had one) done a poor poor job of teaching you manners!
baby blue

United States

#21 Aug 19, 2010
Anyone attend this meeting? Might have helped.

http://www.centralvalleyteaparty.com/events/t...
Abbey

Laton, CA

#22 Aug 28, 2010
thompson-Western Mavrick wrote:
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Gotta finish my cocktail and fix supper ...
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Hey Eldon, from the looks of you the other day, I would have to say "you've finished one too many cocktails". How's that fractured shoulder feeling?
John Doe

Fresno, CA

#23 Aug 28, 2010
Hey ole eldoon, I told you to go see your Doctor because YOU needed help but you didn't. Maybe if you had your shoulder would be feeling mighty fine. Remember, Mary Poppins, a spoonful of sugar will help your medicine go down!! Those pain pills just might make you an agreeable fellar for a change. lol

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